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READ " Hanoi is to repay US$1.7 billion to Moscow over the next 23 years.

(FWD)

September 19, 2000 atimes.com

Central Asia/Russia

Hanoi, Moscow reach debt deal By Sergei Blagov

MOSCOW - Russia and Vietnam have finally worked out Hanoi's Soviet-era debt, a move that may finally spur deeper economic ties between the two former Cold War allies.

The agreement on a considerable cut in Hanoi's old debt was reached during Vietnamese Prime Minister Phan Van Khai's official visit to Moscow from Sept 10-14, after years of difficult negotiations.

Under the accord signed by visiting Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Alexey Kudrin and Vietnamese Finance Minister Nguyen Sinh Hung on Sept 13, Hanoi is to repay US$1.7 billion to Moscow over the next 23 years. The deal was done under the terms of the Paris Club of creditors and the interest will be set at the market rate, according to a Russian finance ministry spokesman.

The settlement of the ''ruble debt'' problem is seen to be a key condition for Vietnam's external viability in the long term. Much of the debt emerged from a number of showcase projects that Moscow backed in the past in its socialist ally in Southeast Asia.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the relationship between the former allies have been overshadowed by a dispute over repaying Vietnam's so called ruble debt to the former USSR, inherited by Russia. Vietnam owes Moscow 11 billion transferable rubles, the Soviet quasi-currency, and conversion estimates have ranged from Vietnam's $2 billion to Russia's $17 billion.

At one point, Moscow offered to write off 70 percent of the debt on condition that Hanoi agree that $1 is worth one transferable ruble. The Vietnamese rejected the forgiveness offered by Moscow and said the conversion rate should be 85 percent. When Khai arrived in Moscow, both sides agreed that Vietnam would have to pay interest on the debt and pay the remainder, leaving the amount of interest as the only unresolved question.

The debt repayment should not affect Vietnam's development, Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov said after talks with Khai on Sept 11. However, the deal did not come easy. Originally due to be signed on Sept 11, it was signed two days later.

On the surface, the Vietnamese must have been happy - they achieved an 85 percent cut-off and got a restructuring scheme over 23 years. However, the Russians managed to insist on using ''market-rate interest'' for Vietnam's debt. A source in the Russian finance ministry involved in the negotiations said that Vietnam is to repay well above $2 billion as a result of market rate interest. But he declined to reveal the exact rate.

''The Vietnamese delegation left Moscow not in an exactly happy mood,'' the official said.

Khai also met with President Vladimir Putin on Sept 12, reportedly to discuss economic ties, notably cooperation in the oil and gas sector. Putin hailed Vietnam as Russia's ''traditional partner'', and Khai said a new level of bilateral ties was achieved during talks in Moscow.

Khai also visited the Plekhanov Academy of Economics, from where he graduated in 1965. After leaving Moscow, Khai visited Belarus.

In Khai's meeting with Kasyanov on Sept 11, officials from the natural gas giant Gazprom and PetroVietnam signed an agreement on developing oil and gas fields on Vietnam's continental shelf. Gazprom and PetroVietnam first agreed to jointly develop off-shore gas fields in the Tonkin Gulf in November 1997, but it took three years to finalize the deals.

The deal signed in Moscow on Sept 11 involves ''Block 112'', an offshore gas field some 16 miles off the coast of the Central Thua Thien-Hue province, roughly 420 miles south of Hanoi. Gazprom and PetroVietnam agreed to set up a production-sharing venture to develop the off-shore gas deposit with estimated reserves of 500 billion cubic meters for 25 years.

The deal is an important step in terms of Gazprom's drive to do business in Southeast Asia, Gazprom's chief spokesman Igor Ivantsov said.

The agreement between Gazprom and PetroVietnam was the second major bilateral deal in two years. In August 1998, Russia and Vietnam signed an agreement to build the Dung Quat oil refinery in central Vietnam with an annual capacity of 6.5 million tons. Vietnam's oil monopoly, PetroVietnam, and its Russian partner, state-run Zarubezhneft, each holds 50 percent equity in the 25-year project.

The partners in VietRoss joint venture are expected to provide $800 million, while the remaining $500 million would be borrowed overseas. The refinery is expected to cost a total of $1.3 billion. It is scheduled to begin operations by 2004, and will have a capacity of 130,000 barrels per day.

Zarubezhneft also operates Vietnam's main oil field in waters off the southern port of Vung Tao, also in partnership with PetroVietnam, through another joint venture, Vietsovpetro.

Despite booming cooperation between Moscow and Hanoi in the oil and gas sector, bilateral trade is hindered by high transport costs, lack of capital and cumbersome bureaucracy in both countries. Bilateral trade between in 1999 reached $416 million, slightly up from the previous year. This is a considerable increase compared to $280 million in 1997, said Alexander Sitnikov, a Vietnam expert with the Russian Trade Ministry.

Vietnam is still running a trade deficit as Russia exported $296 million worth of goods to Vietnam in 1999, he said. Bilateral trade stood at a mere $62 million in the first quarter of this year, including $52 million of Russian exports, Sitnikov added. Moscow and Hanoi agree the figure is far below the potential. Moscow has said it aims to multiply its trade with Vietnam tenfold - or to about $3 billion - over the next few years, but the target is still long way off.

(Inter Press Service)



-- Hochi' Me'n mu't cu USSR :)))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), March 01, 2005

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Cũng tại v lũ thảo khấu LEADERs của HANOI m thằng PV-Đồng cũng l thủ phạm mang nhn dn lm n lệ cho Nga Tu để ngy nay gnh những mn nợ USD$$$ khổng lỗ, song song vo đ l cả triệu cn binh miền Bắc đ vi bộ xương nơi miền Nam VN v nơi Kamphuchia

Nhn ci mặt Đồng Vều m thấy chn :)))

He served as prime minister for more than 30 years until 1987 and played a pivotal role in leading the communists to victory in the Vietnam War.

He died in hospital on 29 April aged 94.

His death was not announced until Tuesday because officials did not want to mar the 30 April celebrations of the 25th anniversary of the reunification of Vietnam.

-- Chết vo giờ trng :))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), March 01, 2005.


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Buồn kười nhẩy :)))) Ngy Bill Clinton visit Hanoi/Vietnam th O thấy anh Vẹm no gim mang cờ USA ra đốt, ấy m khi L khả Fie^u của Hanoi qua Kampuchia th bị cc sinh vin Cambot vc cờ Đỏ sheo dzng ra đốt lm Fieu nh ta tụt vi

(FWD)

Wednesday, June 9, 1999 Published at 10:09 GMT 11:09 UK

World: Asia-Pacific

Senior Vietnamese official in Cambodia

The General Secretary of the Vietnamese Communist party, Le Kha Phieu, has arrived in neighbouring Cambodia for a two-day visit.

Mr Phieu - the most senior Vietnamese official to visit Cambodia in recent years - was met on his arrival by King Sihanouk and the prime minister, Hun Sen.

Thousands of children lined the route from the airport to Phnom Penh to greet him.

However a group of students burned Vietnamese flags at their campus nearby in protest at Mr Phieu's visit.

Correspondents say the two sides are eager to overcome differences, which include border disputes and complaints by Cambodia of illegal immigration from Vietnam.

From the newsroom of the BBC World Service

Hanoi lc no cũng huynh hoang đnh tan giặc Ty giặc Mỹ , ấy , ci nước Kampuchia b cỏn con kia th anh Vẹm Hanoi chạy quắn đt , 1 bi học li.ch sử cho thằng m đi bơi qua sng Mekong river :)))

-- In Kampuchia, Hanoi left more than 30 thousand dead body, mostly young men from Vietnam :))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), March 01, 2005.


Response to ...Hanoi đã trả giá món nợ chiến tranh cho Đàn anh bao nhiêu?

PVDong,bi danh Dong veu vi cai mo han ho.Vo Dong la mot co gai dep va giau cua Ha Noi.Sau nay Dong da hiep dam mot co gai dai dien mien Nam ra hop mung chinh phu lam thoi.Vi vu nay vo Dong da phat dien,toan la mot lu nguy quan tu.

-- Lin Ho (Lin@hotmail.com), March 01, 2005.

Response to ...Hanoi đã trả giá món nợ chiến tranh cho Đàn anh bao nhiêu?

Pham van Donh hay Dong Veu chi la 1 anh thu thuong bu nhin vo quyen hanh, co nhieu lan viet lenh cam cong nhan ben tau an cap hanh hoa. Nhung giam doc Hai Cang Hai Phong lai la 1 dang vien Cong San lau nam, hoc van kieu chan trau da cuoi Dong veu va cho su vu van thu Dong viet vao thung rac.

Bon Vem vau o hai Cang hai Phong danh cap bhieu hang hoa truoc khi vao nha kho va chia nhau ban hang cho den. Day la hinh thuc corruption trong dang csvn tu luc ban dau.

Dong Veu thi cung cha hon gi, khong vay canh nhu bon Le Duan, Le Duc Tho luc bay gio ngay ca Vo nguyen Giap cung phai ve vuon.

Dong Veu rat quan lieu, khi an con vo phai mac ao dai dung canh soi com quat ch Dong!!!!! Con nguoi cach mang vo san ma quan lieu gap tram lan bon tu san mien nam ta.

-- (Quan Cong @ Yohoo.com), March 01, 2005.


Response to ...Hanoi đã trả giá món nợ chiến tranh cho Đàn anh bao nhiêu?

Oh dear, how come nobody mentions the U.S. debt...

$34 trillion dollars and still rising...amounting to more than $25,000 per head.

http://www.miprox.de/Wirtschaft_allgemein/US-Schulden_The_big_Picture_fuer_2002.htm

What crap,

-- Jubinell (Jube@Jube.Jube), March 01, 2005.



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MỚI ĐY, ĐẢNG CỘNG SẢN VIỆT NAM Đ D MAN ĐN P V GIẾT CHẾT

CC ĐỒNG BO THIỂU SỐ Ở CC VNG CAO NGUYN TẠI VIỆT NAM

SAU KHI CƯỚP ĐẤT V ĐN P TN GIO CỦA HỌ

-- bo bo (mystyle@fyi2me.com), March 01, 2005.


Response to ...Hanoi đà trả già mÃn nợ chiến tranh cho ĐÃn anh bao nhiÃu?

y l lời giải thch 16 tấn vng m bọn mnh mng hay hỏi:

According to the writers, the 16 tons of gold reserve of the former Republic of Vietnam left intact on April 30, 1975 at its National Bank and fallen to the hands of Hanoi, has disappeared without a trace (2). One of those who wet the beak in it is Le Ngoc Bau, the fifth son of the late Le Duan, Party General Secretary at the time, his wife Nguyen Thi Nga, and his son Le Anh Tuan, who purchased 40 percent shares of the Dong Mo golf-course, at VN$ 60 billion (US$ 4.2 million) and their names are listed as official owners of the shares. Le Van Bau is a shareholder of three supermarkets in Saigon, of the Bank of Asia, and of a jewelry company.

Beside corruption, there are other dirty stories. One of them is about LTK, a deputy Foreign Minister who has sex relation with his daughter-in-law, popular singer TL. She said to LTKs son that This child is your younger brother, not your child, who will have a part like yours in this homestead.. (Names abbreviated by the two authors of the letter).

Xin vo :Ti nng tham nhũng của CSHN.

-- thich du thu (toollovers@comcast.net), March 01, 2005.


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(FWD)

You are in: World: Asia-Pacific

Thursday, 16 November, 2000, 15:39 GMT Vietnam 1945 to 1975: timeline

Key events in the background to the Vietnam war: 1945 - Viet Minh - a broad front of Vietnamese patriots and nationalists controlled by the Communist Party - seize power. Ho Chi Minh announces independence.

1946 - French forces attack Viet Minh in Haiphong in November sparking the war of resistance against France.

1950 - Democratic Republic of Vietnam is recognised by China and USSR.

1954 - At Geneva Conference Vietnam is split into North and South at the 17th Parallel.

1956 - South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem begins campaign against political dissidents.

1957 - Beginning of communist insurgency in the South.

1959 - Weapons and men from North Vietnam begin infiltrating the South.

1960 - American aid to Diem increased.

1962 - Number of US military advisors in South Vietnam rises to 12,000.

1963 - Viet Cong, the communist guerrillas operating in South Vietnam, defeat units of ARVN, South Vietnamese Army. President Diem overthrown.

1964 - US destroyer allegedly attacked by North Vietnamese patrol boats. This triggers start of pre-planned American bombing raids on North Vietnam.

1965 - 200,000 American combat troops arrive in South Vietnam.

1966 - US troop numbers in Vietnam rise to 400,000, then to 500,000 the following year.

1968 - Tet Offensive - a combined assault by Viet Cong and North Vietnamese Army on US positions - begins. More than 500 civilians die in My Lai massacre.

1969 - President Nixon draws back US ground troops from Vietnam.

1970 - Nixon's National Security advisor, Henry Kissinger, and Le Duc Tho, for the Hanoi government, start talks in Paris.

1973 - Ceasefire agreement in Paris, US troop pull-out completed by March.

1975 - North Vietnamese troops invade South Vietnam and take control of the whole country after South Vietnamese President Duong Van Minh surrenders.

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-- Hanoi invade S-Vietnam for Foods and Clothes . Cheers :) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), March 01, 2005.


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Nhờ bc Hồ ch Mn giỏi ngoại ngữ nn bc viết thư mời Mỹ mang bom vo Vietnam biếu bc :)))))

This type of bomb was used by Nato in Kosovo conflict

Tuesday, 8 August, 2000, 18:54 GMT 19:54 UK Analysis: Why use cluster bombs?

By Defence correspondent Jonathan Marcus The modern cluster bomb dates back to the 1960s and was extensively used in Vietnam, the Gulf War and the recent conflict in Kosovo.

A typical cluster bomb is made up of a container or dispenser - essentially a bomb-shaped cylindrical casing - which carries a large number of sub-munitions or bomblets to the target area.

US navy personnel load cluster bombs onto a Harrier jump jet There are a huge variety of cluster bombs manufactured by a number of countries.

But they work on the same principle: after being dropped from an aircraft, the container opens, either scattering or ejecting the sub- munitions over a large area.

The sub-munitions can be of a variety of types:

Anti-personnel bomblets that kill or maim by fragmentation Anti-tank sub-munitions to be used against armour or vehicles So-called combined effect munitions that contain both anti-armour weapons with an incendiary capacity Various kinds of landmines. Cluster bombs have the great advantage that they can be used against a variety of targets covering significant areas, rather than, for example, pin-pointing individual armoured vehicles.

The US used a staggering number of such bombs in south-east Asia. Pentagon estimates suggest that some 285 million sub-munitions were dropped on Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos.

Children are attracted by the bright colours of the bomblets One of the great problems with these weapons though is the tendency of many of the bomblets to fail to explode - a point highlighted by the UK Working Group on Landmines' study.

This is especially the case when the weapons are dropped from medium or high altitude, when the bomblets tend to drift in the wind and can land a long way from the intended target.

The fact that some bomblets may be brightly coloured and appear interesting to children also causes many accidents in the aftermath of conflicts.

Air warfare experts insist that the bombs still have a useful role to play - especially in a full-scale war.

But the very limited nature of many recent conflicts has led many western air forces to seek more accurate, less indiscriminate weapons, which would be less likely to present a continuing danger once the fighting is over.

-- Gi m bc cn sống v bc đừng mỡi Mỹ th Vietnam ta đu đến nỗi thế ny :) (CHuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), March 01, 2005.


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Thang` nao` noi' Cong san viet nam dan ap da man dong bao dan toc thieu so o tay nguyen zay ta . co bang chung dua ra cho coi de . noi ma khong co chung co thi nhuc lam . mk

-- baare (dekhi_hn@yahoo.com), March 10, 2005.


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Tha`ng Ho` Cu` la?ng

-- Hahahah :_) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), March 10, 2005.


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