I challange all minorities or liberals to answer this question

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I would like you "people" to prove to me with facts, that you are equal to whites. I would like stats and facts. If you have nothing intelligent to say don't reply.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 12, 2005

Answers

I'm white, and I don't consider myself superior to anyone based on their skin color, so I guess I qualify.

How can people of other races be equal to members of the white race...? They are, and I'd have to say because they are human beings just like the rest of us. Members of every race on the planet have their fair share of rotten people, but it has nothing to do with their pigmentation. It has to do with them as the people that they are inside. To quote my main man, Dr. Martin Luther King Junior...

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

It's all about the PERSON, man. It's not about their skin, just like Dr. King said, it's about their character, the way they would act to you if you asked for directions, or sprained your ankle. (Or something…)

I've met despicable individuals of every race, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, what have you, and I can certainly tell you it had nothing to do with their skin. (Well, maybe they were trying to follow certain ethnic stereotypes, being 'ghetto' is in for every race now...)

But to echo that, I've met wonderful, delightful human beings of every race as well.

We're all just people with our own faults. Whites are not superior to anyone mentally, physically, or in any other fashion you can comprehend, based solely on the color of their skin. So if you went so far as to claim that whites are infallible, and it sounds like you're saying that now, then watch an episode of COPS sometime and tell me what you think. :P

Life is so short, why waste it hating people who, if you took the time to get to know them, would probably like?

I’m just so confused by this whole "white supremacy" bit...

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), February 12, 2005.


Well that was very nice but you did not present facts or stats. Just your opinion. Please try again.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 12, 2005.

"Well that was very nice but you did not present facts or stats. Just your opinion. Please try again."

Er... don't you see? I don't need meaningless 'stats' because the human body is universal throughout our entire species. A black guy, an asisan guy, a hispanic guy has the same basic physiology as me... a stomach, lungs, two legs, two arms, whatever... the same with anyone of any race.

The facts are we are a species, a singular race. We have variations, most assuredly, (skin color is a perfect example) but on the whole, we're just humans, and that small variation that is skin color doesn't make for me being superior in any respect. Frankly, how you could reach the conclusion that we are because of that variation is beyond me.

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), February 12, 2005.


Thank you again but you did not present any facts or stats. We have differing opinions but mine is backed up by facts. Please present yours.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 12, 2005.

You have no facts either. Prove you are equal to a pile of dung. Well? Try again

-- (^^^@^^^.@^^^), February 12, 2005.


That's way too broad a question. What exactly do you want to know? Since you are the one who is implying that all other races are inferior to you (the guy who has the time to sit around all day writing empty tracts about how superior he is), the burden of proof rests on YOU. You are making the accusation, therefore YOU need to cough up the evidence. What has made YOU decide that blacks, asians, arabs, ect. are inferior to whites?

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 13, 2005.

An interesting question by Anti-bush. I think the mere fact that he has all day to make these posts is what drives this superiority thing. Okay, let's examine the stats. You read a short excerpt from "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" a must-read for any supremist), and after you omit the fact that the Asian countries clear the white countries in average IQ score by a good 10-20 points, you figure out that the average black is a few points behind the average white on intelligence quotient. Very well, stats are stats. However, it gives the average joe like JW here a great foothold. "Whites are superior to blacks!!!" Well, if you do the IQ thing, again, it appears like the average black is behind. However, the logic leads many people to conclude that ANY white man is superior to ANY black man.

We all know that is not the case.

Take Ako and the Oracle. Both have admitted on now-deleted threads that they have no college education. So, if we're using the IQ/smarts angle, we find them way behind thousands and thousands of blacks. Now I'm sure we can all agree that if they had a demanding job, they wouldn't be able to stay up into the wee hours beating out responses that 4 people are going to read. So again, if we're using the "doing something with your life" angle, we have any number of blacks that at least try hard to boost their social status while Tweedle Dee and Dum dedicate their free time to belittling others. However, the Tweedle Twins happened to be born white, so being idiots that have failed at life doesn't matter according to this logic.

The bottom line, as Umustfeersme pointed out, is that it comes down to the individual. Yes, if you meet an average black guy and an average white guy, the white guy will probably do better on "Jeopardy". However, take into account that there are black doctors, astronauts, guidance counsellors, pastors, pilots, musicians, and graduate students. There are also white terrorists, rapists, janitors, fast-food workers, and rodeo clowns.

My advice? When you find a white person that's a shitty person, don't be afraid to treat them so. When you find a black person that's on their way through college, sit down and have a chat with them. You might just discover that being more likely to have a higher IQ has no bearing on personality. You might find someone with similar tastes in music, food, spirituality, sports, or life ambition.

More advice? If you're a little on the brownish side, ignore what people like JW say. They have pledged their lives to tearing you down, and no matter how hard you try, you will always be inferior in their eyes. Don't worry about what they think. Odds are, they have failed in both of the attempts that they've made to better themselves, and the only solace when they reflect on their failed lives is that they were born white. Don't forget to congratulate them. Remember when your moms told you that bullies are really wimpy and insecure? It was good advice.

Oh right, you wanted facts and stats. 100% of your posts are gay.

-- Transfer College Senior From Cornwall (justpassing@through.com), February 13, 2005.


Oh yeah, and you guys feel free to get the last word if you need to. I won't be checking in on you crazy kids. I just happened to find this site looking for some info on the Libertarian party. Stay in school!

-- Transfer College Student From Cornwall, Signing Off (here one second@gone the next.com), February 13, 2005.

Thanks for the drawn out useless response college boy. None of you have presented anything to prove to me that you are my equal. I don't care about individuals either. So please try again. How hard is it to do an internet search? And by the way, why do you people automatically consider me a racist? I'm just curious.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 13, 2005.

Jost Wondering is just another useless racist fag, period.

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), February 13, 2005.


HEY NIGGER I NEVER SAID I DIDNT HAVE ANY COLLEGE, IM OBVIOULY MORE EDUCATED THAN ANY OF YOU STUPID ASS NIGGERS.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 13, 2005.

GO DOWN AND ANSWER MY QUESTION NIGGER

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 13, 2005.

Excuse me aint tellin but you calling me a fag is racist. Is it not? And I am not racist. All I ever see in posts is the "racists" posting facts and stats. I never see anyone who is against their beliefs post anything of value. You non racists give the racists your opinion and insult them and nothing else. I see you non racists throw around the word ignorant all the time. But who are the ones that are truly ignorant? Do you know the definition of ignorant? Also when you non racists attack my character for asking simple questions, is it because you are afraid of the truth?

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 13, 2005.

"I never see anyone who is against their beliefs post anything of value."

I post that everyone of the human race needs to be judged on their individual conduct, would generalizing their character by their race be more "of value"?

"You non racists give the racists your opinion and insult them and nothing else."

I don't recall insulting you.

"I see you non racists throw around the word ignorant all the time."

That's because racists are ignorant.

"But who are the ones that are truly ignorant?"

People who judge your character based on the pigmentation of your skin.

Do you know the definition of ignorant?

Yes.

Also when you non racists attack my character for asking simple questions, is it because you are afraid of the truth?

No.

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), February 13, 2005.


WHAT IM ABOUT TO DO NOW WILL PROVE THAT THE NIGGERS IN AMERICA AND OTHER WHITE NATIONS BRING DOWN THE OVERALL NATIONAL AVERAGE IQ'S. AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THAT THE MONGOLOID GOOK NATIONS LIKE JAPAN AND HONG KONG CHINA HAVE HIGHER OVER ALL SCORES. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ja.html JAPAN IS 99% HOMOGENEOUS Ethnic groups: Japanese 99%, others 1% (Korean 511,262, Chinese 244,241, Brazilian 182,232, Filipino 89,851, other 237,914) note: up to 230,000 Brazilians of Japanese origin migrated to Japan in the 1990s to work in industries; some have returned to Brazil (2004) THAT MEANS THEY HAVE LESS THAN 1% IN THEIR POPULATION THAT ARE NOT MONGOLOID! http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html CHINA IS ALL MONGOLOID Ethnic groups: Han Chinese 91.9%, Zhuang, Uygur, Hui, Yi, Tibetan, Miao, Manchu, Mongol, Buyi, Korean, and other nationalities 8.1% http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/kn.html NORTH KOREA IS HOMOGENEOUS Ethnic groups: racially homogeneous; there is a small Chinese community and a few ethnic Japanese http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ks.html SOUTH KOREA IS HOMOGENEOUS. Ethnic groups: homogeneous (except for about 20,000 Chinese) NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT THOSE COUNTRIES ARE AT LEAST 99% HOMOGENEOUS AND HAVE NO NIGGERS LIVING THERE ,THEN IN ORDER TO BE FAIR WE HAVE TO DO THIS. LETS PUT SOME NIGGERS IN THEM. THEREFORE LETS TAKE SOUTH KOREA WHICH HAS A NATIONAL AVERAGE IQ SCORE OF 106 AND PUT SOME NIGGERS IN THERE. OK SO HERE IN AMERICA WE HAVE A 12% POPULATION OF NIGGERS SO LETS PUT A 12% POPULATION OF NIGGERS IN SOUTH KOREA. SO INSTEAD OF A COUNTRY THAT HAS A 100% MONGOLOID POPULATION WE NOW HAVE 88% KOREAN MONGOLOID AND 12% NIGGER. NOW WE KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE IQ OF NIGGERS IS 70 - 75 BUT JUST TO BE EXTREMELY ABOVE AND BEYOND FAIR LETS INCREASE THAT TO 90. SO YOU GOT 106 FOT THE KOREAN MONGOLOIDS AND 90 FOR THE NIGGERS. SO 106+90=196 /2= 98 THERE YOU GO THE KOREAN AVERAGE IS 98. SEE HOW THE NIGGERS DRAG DOWN THE AVERAGE.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 13, 2005.


Then that would mean that YOU AKO are dragging everyone's IQ down to your level of utter stupidity!

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), February 13, 2005.

Very good post AKO. I wish the non racists could post facts like that. And yet again not tellin has no intelligent response. Nor did the poster before her. You did not answer my questions. Please help me understand your side or I may become a racist. I live my life by science and facts. Provide me with some for your side please.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 13, 2005.

You and AKO have proven that your racism is utter STUPIDITY! YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF THAT YOU WHITE TRASH ARE SUPERIOR TO ANYONE ELSE YOU FUCKING MORONS!!!!!!

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), February 13, 2005.

"IM OBVIOULY MORE EDUCATED"

Hahaha...never gets old. :)

-- haha (ha@ha.ha), February 13, 2005.


There are 300,000,000 in the US, give or take. 88% of them have an IQ of 106, 12% have an IQ of say...80.

88% of 300,000,000 is 264,000,000.

So, making sure that we're averaging the right way:

264,000,000 have an IQ of 106, and 36,000,000 have an IQ of 80.

264,000,000 people * 106 IQ = 27,984,000,000.

36,000,000 people * 80 IQ = 2,880,000,000.

27,984,000,000 + 2,880,000,000 = 30,864,000,000.

And for the grand finale,

30,864,000,000 / 300,000,000 =

drum role, please...

103.

So, in the United States, even if every black in the country was 26 IQ points behind every white in the country, then your national IQ average would only be dragged down 3 points.

Face it, you can't blame your IQ scores on niggers. Blame it on Asians being smarter and learn to live with it.

-- King of China (kingofchina@dothemath.com), February 13, 2005.


What happenes when you average in all hispanics in the U.S? Also add in Native americans, asians, and middle easterns.

-- ROOOO (HUH?@DUH.COM), February 14, 2005.

EXACTLY AND HE IS ALSO WRONG ABOUT THE AMERICAN AVERAGE BECAUSE HES USING THE 88% THERE ARE NOT 88% OF WHITES IN THE US.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.

ALSO HE IS ASSUMING THAT THE WHITE AVERAGE IS 106 WHEN IN ALL PROBABILITY IT IS MUCH HIGHER THEN THAT.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN AMERICA THERE ARE AT LEAST 21% OF NON WHITES IN THE US . WHITES ONLY MAKE UP 77%

THE STUPID GOOK NEEDS TO GET HIS FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE HE TRIES TO DO THE MATH. Ethnic groups: white 77.1%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1.5%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.3%, other 4% (2000) note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


I CAN PROVE MY POINT ANOTHER WAY AS WELL.

I HAVE ADDED UP THE AVERAGES OF THE MONGOLOID COUNTRIES AND THE WHITE COUNTRIES AND HERE ARE THE RESULTS..

I USED ONLY THE ASIAN COUTRIES THATS ARE MONGOLOID ,FOR EXAMPLE I DID NOT USE INDIA OF IRAN OR ANY OTHER ARABS TYPE COUTRY (CONSIDER THAT A FAVOR BECUASE THOSE COUNTRIES WERE VERY LOW SCORED)

ALSO SINCE THERE ARE FEWER MONGOLOID COUNTRIES THEN WHITE I ONLY USED THE SAME NMBR OF WHITE COUNTRIE AS MONGOLOID COUNTRIES.

HERE ARE THE COUNTRIES I USED AND THEIR IQ SCORES.

MONGOLOID COUNTRIES.

CHINA 100 HONG KONG 107 JAPAN 105 SOUTH KOREA 106 TAIWAN 104 SINGAPORE 103 THAILAND 91 MALAYSIA 92 FIJI 84 INDONESIA 89 MARSHALL ISLANDS 84 PHILLIPINES 86 SOMOA 87 TONGA 87 THE WHITE COUNTRIES.

GERMANY 102 ITALY 102 NETHERLANDS 102 AUSTRIA 102 BELGIUM 100 BRITIAN 100 NEW ZEALAND 100 US 98 AUSTRIALIA 98 POLAND 99 HUNGARY 99 FRANCE 98 NORWAY 98 DENMARK 98

THEN ADD THEM UP AND DIVIDE BY THE NUMBER OF COUNTRIES IN EACH GROUP ,THE MONGOLOIDS SCORED AN AVERAGE IQ OF 94 AND THE WHITES SCOREDAN AVERAGE IQ OF 100

TE WHITE RACE HAS THE HIGHER IQ OVERALL

SORRY NIGGERS AND MONGOLOIDS YOU LOSE AGAIN

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


You lose again AKOFAGGOT. You still say you win yet you consistently get your ass handed to you by people who have proven to be far more intelligent than you, thus showing you to be the LOSER you truly are.

-- (yur@putz.com), February 14, 2005.

http://www.rlynn.co.uk/pages/article_intelligence/t4.htm HERES THE LIST OF THE NATIONS AND THERE IQ'S

ADD EM UP GOOK AND ADMIT YOUR INFERIORITY

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


A FEW MONGOLOID COUNTRIES WERE LEFT OUT BUT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED YOUR SCORE ANY GOOKS. BECAUSE THE COUNTRIES LEFT OUT WERE LIKE LAOS 89 AND SOLOMON ISLANDS 84 AND THOSE LOW SCORES WOULDNT HAVE HELPED. NO WHITE COUNTRY SCORED BELOW 90

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.

"Face it, you can't blame your IQ scores on niggers. Blame it on Asians being smarter and learn to live with it."

THE FIRST POST I MADE WAS JUST TO SHOW HOW THE NIGGERS AND OTHER MINORITIES DRAG DOWN THE SCORES, AND EVEN IF WE USE THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU JUST PULLED OUT OF YOUR ASS AND SAY THAT IT ONLY LOWERS IT BY THREE POINTS THAT IS STILL A BIG DIFFERENCE AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE WETBACK SCORES (MEXICO SCORED AN 87 AND MOST OTHER LATINO COUNTRIES SCORED IN THE 80'S) ALSO THE ARABS AND OTHERS WHO SCORE LOW AS HELL) THAT WOULD PULL DOWN THE AVERAGE EVEN MORE.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


There are 300,000,000 in the US, give or take. 88% of them have an IQ of 106, 12% have an IQ of say...80. 88% of 300,000,000 is 264,000,000.

So, making sure that we're averaging the right way:

264,000,000 have an IQ of 106, and 36,000,000 have an IQ of 80.

264,000,000 people * 106 IQ = 27,984,000,000.

36,000,000 people * 80 IQ = 2,880,000,000.

ALSO WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF MULTIPLYING THE 264000000 *106???

WE ALREADY NOW THAT THAT % OF PEOPLE HAVE 106

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


Okay, let's go ahead and put the knife in Ako's head once and for all, shall we? The average IQ of the United States is 98. The average IQ of Hong Kong is 10 points higher. That's point one. Now, let me show you rednecks why Ako's math is fucked up. Say you're in a class. Your teacher tells you that Test 1 is 80% of your grade, and Test 2 is 20% of your grade. You score 100 on Test 1, and 70 on Test 2. According to Ako's math, your average is the following: 100 + 70 = 170 / 2 = 85.

That's wrong, my inept white bretheren. You can't count them equally (dividing by 2) when one counts for 80% of your grade. The correct calculation is as follows:

100 * 0.8 = 80

70 * 0.2 = 14

80 + 14 = 94

So, if you take Test 1, get a 100 as 80% of your grade, then take Test 2, and get a 70 as 20% of your grade, your average is only brought down by 6 points. That's as simple as I can make it.

So, now that I have proven that Ako's math is wrong, let's re-apply the CORRECT math at a larger scale and find the right answer, since he asked where I got my numbers from.

300,000,000 people in the United States.

88% White, 12% Black, by Ako's claim.

So, 88% of 300,000,000 is 264,000,000.

12% of 300,000,000 is 36,000,000.

With me so far? Good, let's proceed.

264,000,000 White people in America have an IQ of 106, according to Ako.

36,000,000 Black people in America have an IQ of 90, according to Ako.

So, when we do an average, we add all the numbers together. Just so I won't have to write "106" 264 million times, we'll just multiply.

264,000,000 * 106 = 27,984,000,000.

and then, 36,000,000 * 90 = 3,240,000,000.

Now, since we're doing an average, we add those two together so if you add together the IQ of everyone in America, we have:

27,984,000,000 + 3,240,000,000 = 31,224,000,000. That is the combined IQ score of the entire United States.

Now then, we divide 31,224,000,000 / 300,000,000 people altogether:

104.

So, even if the IQ of all the white people in America was 106, and the black average was 16 points below, your IQ average only goes down by 2 points. So actually, the average IQ of a white American is only 96. That's 12 points behind Hong Kong. Funny that Ako tried to prove his point that Americans are smarter than the Chinese by LOWERING you guys' average IQ score.

Are you still confused, my slow white friend? Let me rephrase the nerdy Asian part of this with white speak:

THE PEEPUL OF CHINA ARE SMARTER THEN THE PEEPUL OF THE UNITED STAYTES! I USED UR EXAMPLE TO PROVE IT - THE ONLY DIFFERUNS IS THAT I DID THE MATH RIGHT AND U DID IT RONG! HAHAHAH

-- King of China (kingofchina@dothemath.com), February 14, 2005.


Ha, okay, now Ako's changed his numbers to this:

77.1% white.

Okay, we'll assume that the rest of the people in America have an IQ of 90, as he said and prove my point once and for all.

300,000,000 people in the United States.

77.1% white = 231,300,000.

22.9% other - 69,000,000.

So, estimated white IQ of 106 * 231,000,000 whites = 24,486,000,000.

And, estimated "other" IQ of 90 * 69,000,000 "other" = 6,210,000,000.

So, the combined US IQ score by Ako's new figures is 24,486,000,000 + 6,210,000,000 = 30,696,000,000.

And once again, for the grand finale, we divide 30,696,000,000 / 300,000,000 to come up with:

102.

Well, gee whiz. You lose again. Even if you deported every non- white person in America, you only boost your ESTIMATED IQ by 4 points. Hong Kong is still 6 points ahead.

You wanna cough up some more statistics, or have you experienced life from underneath my wooden shoes for long enough?

-- King of China (kingofchina@dothemath.com), February 14, 2005.


Oh, also worth pointing out is that even for these examples, Ako assumed that the whites were 2 points below the Hong Kong average. Talk about selling yourself short, geez. I wonder what David Duke would think about that...

-- King of China (kingofchina@KKK.com), February 14, 2005.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I love it!

I smell burning ass. These racist outcasts of society arent with the computers they use to make fools of themselves.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), February 14, 2005.


To quote a movie I have no intention of seeing: you, sir, have just been SERVED.

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 14, 2005.

WHY DO YOU KEEP USING THE U.S.? AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT PUT NIGGERS IN SOUTH KOREA OR HONG KONG. (HONG KONG is PART OF CHINA AND CHINA ONLY GOT 100SO OU WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THOSE TWOAS WELL)

IT WAS SOUTH KOREA AND THEY DO NOT HAVE 300,000,000 PEOPLE THEY ONLY HAVE 48,598,175 PEOPLE.

THE POINT OF THE FIRST POST WAS TO PROVE THAT NIGGERS DO DRAG DOWN THE SCORE AND THAT WAS ONLY ONE FACTOR AND IT IS CORRECT.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


Are you really this stupid or are you just going to continue the "I won" schtick to prove to your valentine JW that you'll never admit defeat? Whether or not you admit it, your math was WRONG, and it's good to see that two other people (Kobe and Antibush) have enough brains to see why.

Tell me what exactly the point of "putting niggers in South Korea" would be? You said yourself that these nations are pure. That means nobody lives in South Korea except Koreans. So why would I throw niggers in there? They don't live there, so they're not messing with the average IQ count. If you make the population of South Korea 20% black, then we drag the IQ down by 3 or 4 points. But soft! Even if we do that, they STILL have the US beat!

Now, let me get you straight here. Again. You're asking me to figure out what the IQ of the average Hong Kong resident is after I throw out ONE percent of the minorities there? Well, I threw out ALL of your nation's minorities, and it made hardly a ripple. So you're saying that if I throw out the ONE PERCENT of Hong Kong minorities, that it will lower our average IQ? I realize that you're not a math person, but surely even you can see the idiocy in that statement. You...can. Right? Right?

Now, onto your conclusion. You're blaming the fact that YOUR country's IQ average is lowered by the blacks in your country. Don't get me wrong, I personally don't care much for your opinion of blacks. My race gets the gold in the IQ Olympics, so I don't pay much attention to whites and blacks arguing over who gets the silver. However, I have PROVEN to you that your math was wrong (I'm glad that you finally see that), and I have PROVEN to you that even if you throw out ALL your country's minorities (even the smart Asians), you're still behind Hong Kong. Can ya guess where I'm from? Can ya? Can ya?

Oh, and don't give me that bullshit about trying to prove that niggers drag the curve down. You're trying to prove that your country's average IQ is 10 points higher than it actually is (which would only make you EVEN with Hong Kong), and that, my friend, is why I keep using America as an example. You use your home, and I'll use mine.

And FINALLY, that bullshit about the average honker having an IQ way above 106? You need to take "INDISPUTABLEFACTS" out of your address and put "JESUSWHATACROCKOFSHIT" in. Examine the FACTS, my white friends:

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/iq.htm

http://www.tommyryden.com/jensen.htm

Look at the paragraph under the bellcurve in the first, and paragraph 4 in the second. The average white has an IQ of 100-102. Much higher than 106? Don't make up information, fucktard. Someone will ALWAYS be behind you to hit you with the sad truth no matter how blind you choose to be to it.

-- My Yellow Superior (kingofchina@IQmath.com), February 14, 2005.


Ha, can you believe the nerve of this kid? He makes this claim:

"YOU HAVE TO PUT ALL MONGOLOIDS INTO ONE GROUP AND ALL WHITES INTO ONE GROUP AND THEN ADD IT UP ,AND THAT IS WHAT I JUST DID."

No, that's not what you did, my forgetful white friend. You did this:

"106+90=196 /2= 98"

Okay, so now I've proven that math to be fucked up, you try lying to cover your ass? You didn't group a fucking thing. You took Korea's IQ score, applied some 3rd grade level math, and gave us what you thought Korea's IQ would be if you "added a few niggers." What you really did was PROVE that even if 50% of Korea was black, they would have the same IQ as the United States.

Do you people actually tolerate this kind of stupidity here?

-- King of China (kingofchina@bullshitfactsthrownout.com), February 14, 2005.


THIS GROUP ASSMUNCH!!!

CAN PROVE MY POINT ANOTHER WAY AS WELL. I HAVE ADDED UP THE AVERAGES OF THE MONGOLOID COUNTRIES AND THE WHITE COUNTRIES AND HERE ARE THE RESULTS..

I USED ONLY THE ASIAN COUTRIES THATS ARE MONGOLOID ,FOR EXAMPLE I DID NOT USE INDIA OF IRAN OR ANY OTHER ARABS TYPE COUTRY (CONSIDER THAT A FAVOR BECUASE THOSE COUNTRIES WERE VERY LOW SCORED)

ALSO SINCE THERE ARE FEWER MONGOLOID COUNTRIES THEN WHITE I ONLY USED THE SAME NMBR OF WHITE COUNTRIE AS MONGOLOID COUNTRIES.

HERE ARE THE COUNTRIES I USED AND THEIR IQ SCORES.

MONGOLOID COUNTRIES.

CHINA 100 HONG KONG 107 JAPAN 105 SOUTH KOREA 106 TAIWAN 104 SINGAPORE 103 THAILAND 91 MALAYSIA 92 FIJI 84 INDONESIA 89 MARSHALL ISLANDS 84 PHILLIPINES 86 SOMOA 87 TONGA 87 THE WHITE COUNTRIES.

GERMANY 102 ITALY 102 NETHERLANDS 102 AUSTRIA 102 BELGIUM 100 BRITIAN 100 NEW ZEALAND 100 US 98 AUSTRIALIA 98 POLAND 99 HUNGARY 99 FRANCE 98 NORWAY 98 DENMARK 98

THEN ADD THEM UP AND DIVIDE BY THE NUMBER OF COUNTRIES IN EACH GROUP ,THE MONGOLOIDS SCORED AN AVERAGE IQ OF 94 AND THE WHITES SCOREDAN AVERAGE IQ OF 100

THE WHITE RACE HAS THE HIGHER IQ OVERALL

SORRY NIGGERS AND MONGOLOIDS YOU LOSE AGAIN

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


You never cease to amaze me.

For starters, we're talking about the United States vs. Hong Kong or Korea. For second, mainland Asians and Japanese don't count the islanders as true Asians. I submit this definition from dictionary.com.

Mongoloid : a major racial stock native to Asia...that includes peoples of northern and eastern Asia, Malaysians, Eskimos, and often American Indians.

Do you see people of the South Pacific in there? Nope. But you see them in Ako's averaging. Hmm.

For third, you ADMIT that you didn't factor everything. You ADMIT again that your math is fucked. How stupid can you get?

Let's have a play-by-play, everyone. This discussion is getting long.

(1) Ako started off claiming that mainland Asians are stupid. I showed him that his math was wrong.

(2) He admits that his math is wrong, but then he claims that the US IQ average would be higher if they got rid of minorities.

(3) Again, I show him that the impact would be minimal.

(4) Then he lies about how he got his conclusion.

(5) He comes later doing some more nifty figuring where the whites come out on top...of course.

(6) He leaves out factors, which automatically make any calculation invalid. The first TEN factors that were omitted that jumped out at me?

Albania 90

Azerbaijan 87

Bahrain 83

Bulgaria 93

Croatia 90

Georgia 93

Turkey 90

Ireland 93

Kyrgyzstan 87

Turkey 90

Oops...we're leaving out at least 10 white countries...oops...heheh.

You know what? I've decided that even if you prove Ako wrong all day, he's just one of those guys that has to get the last word. You've all seen the facts. You have, on your board, a guy that uses 3rd grade math (incorrectly) to prove a point. This sort of person isn't even worth arguing with.

Hong Kong kills the US in IQ scores, as do the Koreans. I'll just thank my lucky stars that my people are superior to every white country on the planet. My advice to everyone here? Look out for his math. It doesn't add up. You people let me know if he says anything valid; I have midterms to study for. PEACE.

-- Your Yellow Superior (usa98@hongkong107.com), February 14, 2005.


Oh, and people.

I WANT YOU ALL TO LISTEN TO ME VERY, VERY CAREFULLY!!!

READ THIS POST VERY CAREFULLY!!!

Do you all remember how I've already busted Ako's ass for averaging unequal values as equal? Here is PROOF that he is stupid and can't do math.

China's population is 1 billion.

South Korea's population is 48 million.

OKAY, GET READY!!!

The population of Tonga, which he factored as an equal value in his average? 110,000.

The population of Samoa, which he factored as an equal value in his average? 178,000.

So, there you have it, people. There is your proof. I have already told Ako that you can't just haphazardly factor in unequal numbers then average them as if they were equal. This is incorrect math. He admitted to Wes that his math was fucked up on the other thread. And now, you all see him doing it AGAIN. You can't factor in a nation of a billion people with a nation of 100,000 as equal.

LISTEN TO ME, PEOPLE! JUST BECAUSE AKO IS STUPID DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE! CHECK THE MATH!

-- King of China (kingofchina@godyourestupid.com), February 14, 2005.


Oh yeah. Happy Valentine's Day, everybody.

-- King of China (kingofchina@allaboutthelove.com), February 14, 2005.

WRONG AGAIN I SAID MY FIRST POST WAS ONLY TO PROVE THAT THE NIGGERS DO DRAG DOWN THE SCORE EVEN IF YOU SAY IY IS BY ONE POINT THAT STILL PROVES MY POINT.

ALSO THE PACIFIC ISLANDERS ,NATIVE AMERICANS AND ESKIMOS ARE FUCKING MONGOLOID. AND THE NATIVE AMERICANS AND ESKIMOS HAVE VERY LOW SCORES AS WELL.

NOW I ALSO SAID THAT I DIDNT INCLUDE ALL OF THE WHITE COUNTRIES BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE MONGOLOID COUNTRIES BUT EVEN IF YOU ADD UP ALL OF THE WHITE COUNTRIES THEY STILL COME OUT ON TOP.

ALSO YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT SOME OF THE COUNTRIES YOU LISTED.

Albania 90

Azerbaijan 87

Bahrain 83

Bulgaria 93

Croatia 90

Georgia 93

Turkey 90

Ireland 93

Kyrgyzstan 87

Turkey 90

TURKEY, KYGYZSTAN, AND BAHRAIN ARE NOT WHITE COUNTRIES THEY ARE ARABIC. SO THOSE DONT BELONG WITH THE WHITES.

BUT EVEN IF YOU INCLUDED THESE COUNTRIES THE WHITE SCORE WOULD BE HIGHER THAN THE MONGOLOID.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


"CHINA 100 HONG KONG 107 JAPAN 105 SOUTH KOREA 106 TAIWAN 104 SINGAPORE 103 THAILAND 91 MALAYSIA 92 FIJI 84 INDONESIA 89 MARSHALL ISLANDS 84 PHILLIPINES 86 SOMOA 87 TONGA 87 THE WHITE COUNTRIES.

GERMANY 102 ITALY 102 NETHERLANDS 102 AUSTRIA 102 BELGIUM 100 BRITIAN 100 NEW ZEALAND 100 US 98 AUSTRIALIA 98 POLAND 99 HUNGARY 99 FRANCE 98 NORWAY 98 DENMARK 98

THEN ADD THEM UP AND DIVIDE BY THE NUMBER OF COUNTRIES IN EACH GROUP ,THE MONGOLOIDS SCORED AN AVERAGE IQ OF 94 AND THE WHITES SCOREDAN AVERAGE IQ OF 100 "

OK, let's take a critical look at this. Haven't we just explained that you don't just go and add up the scores, and then divide. There are populations here that vary widely.

From Google: pop. of China 1.3 Billion, thailand, 64.8 million, and you just add them up and divide willy-nilly!!!! By your so-called math, China, population 1.3 Billion has just as much weight as the MArshall Islands, at just 100,000 people!!!

Oh!!! Let's keep going here: China 1.3 billion, Japan 125 million, Hong Kong 6.81 million, South Korea 48.59 million, Taiwan 21 Million, Singapore 4.24 million, thailand 64.8 million, Malaysia 22.66 million, Fiji 856,346, Indonesia 188 million, Marshall islands, 0.1 million people, Phillippines 112,963, Samoa 200,000, Tonga 110,237.

Now, add the populations of all those countries together, and you get the number 1,782,479,546.

Now we find what percentage of that number each of the countries you listed is.

China- 72.9321132=72.9%
Hong Kong- 7.01270319=7.0%
Japan- 0.38205207=0.38%
South Korea- 2.72597798=2.7%
Taiwan- 1.17813414=1.17%
Singapore- 0.237870892=0.23%
Thailand- 3.63538533=3.6%
Malaysia- 1.27126283=1.27%
Fiji- 0.0480424026=0.048%
Indonesia- 10.5471056=10.54%
Marshall Islands- 0.00561016255=0.0056%
Phillippines- 0.00633740792=0.0063%
Samoa- 0.0112203251=0.011%
Tonga- 0.006184474890.0061%

Whew, OK, take each percentage and divide by 100, then multiply times the country's IQ score. Here is an example:
China- 0.72 x 100=72+
Hong Kong- 107 x .07=7.49+
Japan- 105 x .0038=0.399+
South Korea- 106 x 0.027=2.86200+
Taiwan- 104 x 0.0117=1.2168+
Singapore- 103 x .0023=0.2369+
Thailand- 91 x.036=3.27600+
Malaysia- 92 x .0127=1.1684+
Fiji- 84 x .00084=0.07056+
Indonesia- 89 x .1054=9.3806+
Marshall Islands- 84 x .000056=0.004704+
Phillippines- 86 x .000063=0.005418+
Samoa- 87 x .00011=0.00957+
Tonga- 87 x .000061=0.005307=
98.125259 For reference, using Ako's method of add and divide by 14 yeiled 94.6428571. Let's recap, shall we:
Correct IQ score of the 14 Asian nations:98.125259.
AKOMATH IQ score of the 14 Asian nations:94.6428571

Wow folks!!!! Ako can manipulate the numbers!!! Way to show your superiority AKO, by completely fucking it up!!! We are proud of ya (not).

Want to take a stab at his "white" nations????

-- Wes Kinsler (kinsler1@hotmail.com), February 14, 2005.


GO AHEAD AND ADD UP THE WHITE NATIONS.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.

just make sure u do them all since ako can't name them all and cant do math either

-- thing (thing@fantastic.four), February 14, 2005.

I think what we're seeing here is an example of the biggest idiot on this board getting called out for being a total moron, but the fact that he's a WHITE moron makes it all okay. I think it's also pretty clear who won this argument.

-- . (.@..com), February 14, 2005.

THE MORONS ARE THE ONES WHO JUST STOOD BACK AND COULDNT RESPOND TO MY POST LIKE GARRET FORD AND KOBE TOBY.

SO FAR ONLY WES K AND KOC.HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ARGUE AGAINST WHAT I POSTED .

THE IDIOTS LIKE KOBE TOBY JUST JUMP IN WHENEVER SOMEONE ELSE COMES ALONG AND TRIES TO HELP THEM OUT!

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


You people are making this so hard, the hard work has already been done for you:

http://www.arthurhu.com/index/aintell.htm

(Asian Average 103-4 Murray)

That's higher than average white numbers (100-102) posted above.

Chinese Hong Kong 106.7 Lynn 1982

vs. American students 100 Cattell's culture Fair Test

Chinese students are smarter.

So looks like asians are smarter but not by much hope that helps everybody ok bye.

-- Tidus (sun@sigil.com), February 14, 2005.


SORRY DIPSHIT BUT THERE ARE MORE COUNTRIES THAN JUST CHINA AND U.S.

WE ALREADY NOW THE SHIT YOU POSTED BUT THAT IS NOT COMPLETE THATS WHY WE ARE ADDING UP ALL THE MONGOLOIDS INTO ONE GROUP AND ALL THE WHITES INTO ONE GROUP.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 14, 2005.


Um, did you read the post? the source said ASIAN average. and they have probably done a little more research and tests than you have. the ASIAN average was 103-104 where the white average posted above was 100-102. like I said they did all the work for you why are you getting so defensive? it's not like being 1 or 2 points behind makes much difference.

-- Tidus (sun@sigil.com), February 14, 2005.

"GERMANY 102 ITALY 102 NETHERLANDS 102 AUSTRIA 102 BELGIUM 100 BRITIAN 100 NEW ZEALAND 100 US 98 AUSTRIALIA 98 POLAND 99 HUNGARY 99 FRANCE 98 NORWAY 98 DENMARK 98"

AKO has left out a few important white nations which

be included (frome the same damn source: http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm): Canada 97, Czech Republic 97, Finland 97, Russia 96, Slovakia 96, Romania 94, Ireland 93 Once again, from Google: Germany 82 million, Italy 57.6 million, Netherlands 16 million, Austria 8,150,835, Belgium 10.2 million, Britian 58.8 million, New Zealand 4,088,820, United States 295,469,581, Australia 20,265,505, Poland 38.7 million, Hungary 10.5 million, France 59,900,268, Norway 4,525,000, Denmark 5,336,394, Canada 31,752,842, Czech Republic 10,249,216, Finland 5,214,512, Russia 290.5 million, Slovakia 5.4 million, Romania 22,355,551, Ireland 3,621,035.

The grand total of this long list is 1,040,629,559. Thus we can now do the percentage calculation for each country as before. Thus:

Germany- 7.87984536=7.88%
Italy- 5.53511089=5.5%
Netherlands- 1.5375308=1.5%
Austria- 0.783259992=0.78%
Belgium- 0.980175886=0.98%
UK- 5.6504257=5.65%
New Zealand- 0.392917918=0.39%
USA- 28.3933489=28.39%
Australia- 1.94742738=1.95%
Poland- 3.71890263=3.72%
Hungary- 1.00900459=1.01%
France- 5.75615669=5.76%
Norway- 0.43483293=0.43%
Denmark- 0.512804384=0.51%
Canada- 3.05131079=3.05%
Czech Republic- 0.984905331=0.98%
Finland- 0.501092051=0.50%
Russia- 27.9157936=27.92%
Slovakia- 0.518916646=0.51%
Romania- 2.14827177=2.14%
Ireland- 0.347965803=0.34%

Well, what a list. Now for the additive part of the calculation.

Germany- .0787984536 x 102= 8.03744227+
Italy- .0553511089 x 102= 5.64581311+
Netherlands- .015375308 x 102= 1.56828142+
Austria- .00783259992 x 102 0.798925192+
Belgium- .00980175886 x 100= 0.980175886+
UK- .056504257 x 100= 5.6504257+
New Zealand- .00392917918 x 100= 0.392917918+
USA- .283933489 x 98= 27.8254819+
Australia- .0194742738 x 98= 1.90847883+
Poland- .0371890263 x 99= 3.6817136+
Hungary- .0100900459 x 98= 0.988824498+
France- .0575615669 x 98= 5.64103356+
Norway- .0043483293 x 98= 0.426136271+
Denmark- .00512804384 x 98= 0.502548296+
Canada- .0305131079 x 97= 2.95977147+
Czech Republic- .00984905331 x 97= 0.955358171+
Finland- .00501092051 x 97= 0.486059289+
Russia- .279157936 x 96= 26.7991619+
Slovakia- .00518916646 x 96= 0.49815998+
Romania- .0214827177 x 94= 2.01937546+
Ireland- .00347965803 x 93= 0.323608197=

Grand total White nations IQ=98.0896929
Asian nation IQ toal was IQ=98.125259

Coincidentally, a "white" population of 1,040,629,559 has an IQ score nearly 2 points lower than the Asian nation of China, by itself, which thunders in at a population of 1.3 Billion. Yes, let us put that in a form more easily understood by AKO-KRAKO:
IQ of China, 1.3 Billion persons=100.
IQ of "whites", 1.040 Billion=98.

Anymore nonsense you would like to try???

-- Wes Kinsler (kinsler1@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.


SO WES K GETS "Grand total White nations IQ=98.0896929 Asian nation IQ toal was IQ=98.125259 "

SO THEY ARE TIED AT 98.

NOW THAT IS WERE THE NYGGER FACTOR WOULD COME IN, IF YOU EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS FROM THE WHITE NATIONS THAT ALONE WOULD GIVE THE WHITE COUNTRIES AT COUPLE OF MORE POINTS.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


Kinsler, you are officially cool.

I know it won't make any difference though. Ako will read this, make up some story about finding 10,000 year old ice-niggers and decide EVEN when he is presented with the FACTS, to turn a blind eye to them.

So, there's the answer to your question, JW. You wanted facts that I am equal to the whites? Well, Tidus showed you that Asians are a couple of IQ points behind from net sources, I showed that your spokesman is an idiot trying to use junk math to make himself look big, I also showed that in addition to that, getting rid of all your minorities will do just about shit, and Kinsler gave you the mathematical breakdown.

Feel free to keep up you and Ako's horseshit though. The FACT is that your race, by whatever standards you woke up and decided to use, is intellectually inferior to mine no matter how you cut it. Bye bye, then. :)

-- King of China (kingofchina@askandyeshallreceive.com), February 15, 2005.


Oh yeah, and before I forget,

PEACE OUT.

Signing off for real, forever this time,

KoC

-- King of China (kingofchina@askandyeshallreceive.com), February 15, 2005.


THANKS WES K, YOU HELPED PROVE ME RIGHT.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.

NOW I WOULD LIKE ANY OF YOU TO NAME ONE MONGOLOID GENIUS?

ALSO NAME ONE MONGOLOID PERSON WHO HAS CHANGED THE WORLD PROFOUNDLY?

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


Still in denial akobadageth is. He talks about excluding the blacks from the white nations, but has he even LOOKED at the cia cite?

The one guy excluded the blacks from USA and it made what like a one point difference, now look at the cia site. There is less than 6% blacks in germany, none in ireland, none in italy, none in austria, less than 2% in poland, none in denmark...should i continue?

face it akobadageth this so called "nigger factor" makes small difference on the US scale, even smaller difference on the world scale. the best you could hope for is to maybe tie the asian nations if your lucky.

and don't forget to look at the sites i posted, even looking at a race breakdown, whites are still a couple of points behind just learn to live with it.

-- Tidus (sun@sigil.com), February 15, 2005.


THE WHITE NATIONS ARE ALREADY TIED WITH THE MONGOLOID NATIONS AT 98 ,EVEN BEFORE THEY EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS SO ONCE YOU EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS THE WHITE SCORE BEATS THE MONGOLOID SCORE.

ALSO STUPID YOUR LINK TALKED ABOUT CHINESE VS. AMERICA.

YOU CANT GET THE TRUE AVERAGE FOR ALL MONGOLOIDS UNTIL YOU DO WHAT WES K DID AND ADD ALL MONGOLOIDS INTO ONE GROUP AND ALL WHITES INTO ONE GROUP. NOW WES K JUST DID THAT AND THEY TIED AT 98.

NOW ALL THAT IS LEFT TO DO IS EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS AND OTHER MINORITIES FROM THE WHITE NATIONS AND YOU GET THE RIGHT SCORE , EVEN IF IT ONLY MAKES A ONE POINT DIFFERENCE THE WHITE NATIONS WOULD HAVE 99 WHILE THE MONGOLOIDS HAVE 98 PUTTING THE WHITES ABOVE THEM.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


Did you even look at my link? Look again. Average ASIAN is 103-104. Are you just ignoring that on purpose?

-- Tidus (sun@sigil.com), February 15, 2005.

http://www.arthurhu.com/index/aintell.htm

THIS IS YOUR LINK RIGHT?

IT IS TALKING ABOUT ASIANS HERE IN AMERICA VS WHITES HERE IN AMERICA. THEY DIDNT DO ALL MONGOLOID NATIONS AND GET THE OVERALL SCORE.

ALTHOUGH THE LINK YOU POSTED DOES HAVE SOME GOOD INFO,

THE WAY WES K DID THE AVERAGES IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE TRUE MONGOLOID AND WHITE AVERAGES AND THEY TIED AT 98, NOW ALL THATS LEFT TO DO IS EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS FROM THE WHITE NATIONS AND THEN THEY WILL BE HIGHER .

NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION NAME ONE MONGOLOID GENIUS?

NAME ONE MONGOLOID PERSON WHO HAS CHANEGED THE WORLD PROFOUNDLY?

I CAN NAME MANY WHITES THAT HAVE.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


I have a question for the king of china. When they compile these tests do they just test the asians in the cities? Or do they actually go out into the villages where the people fertilize their crops with their own shit, have no utilities, modern medicine and live in huts? It seems to me that these tests are preformed on the smartest of asian society. You could say the same for america. But the poorest of the poor here don't live like them. And they have some education. Also I am not denying your math. I'm just wondering how they come about these figures.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 15, 2005.

WES K DID THE MATH AND IT SHOWED THAT I WAS RIGHT.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.

LIAR!!!!!! WES KICKED YOUR ASS YOU PUSSY!!!

-- (yur@putz.com), February 15, 2005.

I proved that you a moron who can't do even the most simple of statistical calculations. But that is only one of your many limitations. Find that Damn caps lock key!

Oh, perhaps you missed this at the end of my post: Coincidentally, a "white" population of 1,040,629,559 has an IQ score nearly 2 points lower than the Asian nation of China, by itself, which thunders in at a population of 1.3 Billion. Yes, let us put that in a form more easily understood by AKO-KRAKO: IQ of China, 1.3 Billion persons=100. IQ of "whites", 1.040 Billion=98.

After seeing it done in front of you TWICE, you should be able to understand how the math works, go ahead and remove all the "non- whites" from the white population total, country by country, and see what the net result is. I bet it will suprise you how little change there really is.

-- Wes K (kinsler1@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.


"post: Coincidentally, a "white" population of 1,040,629,559 has an IQ score nearly 2 points lower than the Asian nation of China, by itself, which thunders in at a population of 1.3 Billion. Yes, let us put that in a form more easily understood by AKO-KRAKO: IQ of China, 1.3 Billion persons=100. IQ of "whites", 1.040 Billion=98."

THATS WHERE YOU ARE WRONG. BECAUSE YOU CANT JUST TAKE ONE COUNTRY (CHINA) AND COMPARE IT TO THE WHOLE WHITE GROUP YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE ENTIRE MONGOLOID GROUP AND COMPARE IT TO THE WHITE GROUP WHICH BY YOUR CALCULATIONS TIED AT 98. NOW ALL YOU HAVE LEFT TO DO IS EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS FROM THE WHITE NATIONS AND THAT WILL PUT THE WHITES ON TOP.

ALSO YOURE BRINGING UP ANOTHER FACTOR THAT ONLY WORKS IN MY FAVOR BY STATING THAT MONGOLOIDS OUTNUMBER THE WHITES (WHITES ARE THE MINORITY ON THIS PLANET) BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT WITH LESS POPULATION THE WHITES MUST HAVE A MORE CONSITANT SCORE WHILE THE MONGOLOIDS HAVE MORE ROOM FOR LOW SCORES DUE TO THEIR LARGER POPULATION .THAT GIVES THEM ANOTHER ADVANTAGE ,YET EVEN WITH THE SMALLER POPULATION THE WHITES STILL COME OUT ON TOP.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


AKO are you THAT stupid or what?? Everyone here just handed you your sorry ass on a stick and you're STILL posting your nonsense??!!! Damn you're a retard!!!

-- JEEZ LUEEZE (worthlessWHITES@suck.com), February 15, 2005.

"ALSO YOURE BRINGING UP ANOTHER FACTOR THAT ONLY WORKS IN MY FAVOR BY STATING THAT MONGOLOIDS OUTNUMBER THE WHITES (WHITES ARE THE MINORITY ON THIS PLANET) BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT WITH LESS POPULATION THE WHITES MUST HAVE A MORE CONSITANT SCORE WHILE THE MONGOLOIDS HAVE MORE ROOM FOR LOW SCORES DUE TO THEIR LARGER POPULATION .THAT GIVES THEM ANOTHER ADVANTAGE ,YET EVEN WITH THE SMALLER POPULATION THE WHITES STILL COME OUT ON TOP.

Well then let's level the playing field, shall we??? Let's take each population, and see what percentage of each has a higher number IQ scores greater than 100. You will like this. If, as you claim, the "whites" are better than the asians, then a higher percentage of the white group will have scores 100 and over.

Let's begin!!!!

Taking only those asian nations with an IQ of 100 or more we get 1,505,640,000. Then we do the calculation to find percentage.
(1,505,640,000 / 1,782,479,546) x 100 = 84.4688515 or 84.5%

No stopping now; let's do the "white" nations!!!

Same thing as with the asian countries, we add the populations of all the countries with IQ scores of 100 or greater, which turns out to be 222,439,655. Once agian we do the calculation:
(222,439,655 / 1,040,629,559) * 100 = 21.3754888 or 21.4%

Let's recap:
Percentage of Asians with an average IQ of 100 or greater=84.55
Percentage of "whites" with an average IQ of 100 or greater=21.4%

Is it soaking in yet???? Do we need to go on?????????

-- wes K (kinsler1@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.


I'LL ASK AGAIN I have a question for the king of china. When they compile these tests do they just test the asians in the cities? Or do they actually go out into the villages where the people fertilize their crops with their own shit, have no utilities, modern medicine and live in huts? It seems to me that these tests are preformed on the smartest of asian society. You could say the same for america. But the poorest of the poor here don't live like them. And they have some education. Also I am not denying your math. I'm just wondering how they come about these figures.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 15, 2005.

NOW YOUR ONLY TAKING SOME OF THE MONGOLOID NATIONS ONCE AGAIN ONLY THE HIGHER ONES, AND YOU CANT DO THAT , YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEM AND THEN GET THE PERCENTAGE OF WHO HAD MORE SCORES OVER 100.

IT WOULD BE IMPOSIBLE TO SAY THE MONGOLOIDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE POPULATION. THE WHITES MUST HAVE MORE SCORES CONSITANTLY HIGHER THAN THE MONGOLOIDS OR THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TIED AT 98.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


"...YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEM AND THEN GET THE PERCENTAGE OF WHO HAD MORE SCORES OVER 100. "

That, my poor, deluded lad is exactly what I did. Did you not notice????

"IT WOULD BE IMPOSIBLE TO SAY THE MONGOLOIDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE POPULATION."

That's why I did the percent of population comparison, did you not read that? Did you not understand that???????? I "zeroed" them mathmatically!!!!! Did you not see the percent sign and realize that for each population, the whole is equal to 100, and we are interested in a portion of that whole.

So, for you AKO, the percentage is expressed as a fraction to help you understand the concept:
Asia 84.55/100 have a score of 100 or greater. That literally means for every 100 people, there will be 84 with a score higher than 100! It could mean 845 out of every thousand; it could mean every eight out of ten!!! Do you see that? It is a ratio!!!!

The same goes for the "White" 21.4/100 have a score of 100 or greater. Hey!!!! Look at that!!!!! I equalized the populations for you without changing the ratio!!!!!

Does it make sense to you now????

-- WesK (kinsler1@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.


YOU ONLY TOOK THE ASIAN NATIONS THAT HAVE SCORES OVER 100 AND COMPARED THAT TO ALL OF THE WHITE NATIONS TOGETHER .

YOU HAVE TO GET ALL OF THE MONGOLOIDS TOGETHER NOT JUST THE NATIONS THAT SCORED OVER 100.

IF YOU DO THAT THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE MONGOLIODS COULD HAVE MORE OVER 100 AND STILL BE TIED AT 98.

YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR TIME INTO EXCLUDING THE NIGGERS OUT OF THE WHITE NATIONS SINCE YOU ENJOY CALCULATIONS SO MUCH.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


and the hispanic population sould be taken out of the white american population. i'm sure the white american population would be 102

-- fj;asldfja (as;klfdgjh@;lkjh.com), February 15, 2005.

I thank you for actually debating and posting facts. Even though a solution hasent been reached. I think there are too many variables to answer. But I applaud you two for the effort. But to the rest of you, none of you has made a valuable contribution to the debate or posted anything of value. So please keep it down when the grownups are talking. Your childish insults are getting us nowhere. But if you have some facts please post them.

-- JUST WONDERING (CURIOUSWHITE@MAN.COM), February 15, 2005.

"YOU ONLY TOOK THE ASIAN NATIONS THAT HAVE SCORES OVER 100 AND COMPARED THAT TO ALL OF THE WHITE NATIONS TOGETHER"

Please show me where, re-quote it directly where I "simply compared the Asian nations with an IQ score over 100 and all the whites togehter." DO IT.

The simple answer is YOU CANNOT!!!!!

Allow me to clue you in, ONCE AGAIN, what I did:

I compared the nations of BOTH groups WITH IQ SCORES OVER 100. The resultant ratios have been given in previous postings.

I have even taken the time to illustrate HOW the populations and scores add up to give the numbers they do. They are all there for you to reffere to if you have questions.

Despite this you still manage to demonstrate you don't understand, you still don't get it. I invite you, GO BACK AND LOOK OVER THE NUMBERS.

Oh, but let's see what next bright idea AKO has:

"YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR TIME INTO EXCLUDING THE NIGGERS OUT OF THE WHITE NATIONS SINCE YOU ENJOY CALCULATIONS SO MUCH.'

Hey, it is not that hard to do, buddy. Of all the countries that are listed, you are more than welcome to find the 3 or 4 that this applies to and ADJUST THE IQ SCORE AND POPULATION TOTAL FOR EACH so that they may be recalculated. IF AS YOU CLAIM THAT 12% or so of a country's population is non white, and exclude their IQ scores, you must ALSO ADJUST THE POPULATION COUNT FOR THAT COUNTRY.

So, get on with it, boy.

-- Wes K (kinsler1@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.


"(222,439,655 / 1,040,629,559) * 100 = 21.3754888 or 21.4%"

"1,040,629,559" THIS IS ALL THE WHITE NATIONS TOGETHER.

NOW THE FACT IS NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY TO REARANGE THINGS THE WHITE AVERAGE AND THE MONGOLOID AVERAGE IS TIED AT 98 , SO ITS WOULD BE IMPOSIBLE FOR THE MONGOLOIDS TO HAVE HAD NORE SCORES OVER 100.

SO 98 IS THE AVERAGE FOR BOTH , NOW ALL THAT IS LEFT TO DO IS TAKE OUT THE NIGGERS FROM THE WHITE NATIONS AND THAT WILL PUT THEM ON TOP.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


Percentage of Asians with an average IQ of 100 or greater=84.55 Percentage of "whites" with an average IQ of 100 or greater=21.4%

OK THIS IS JUST STUPID BECAUSE IF HE CALCULATES ALL THE MONGOLOIDS AS A GROUP NOT ONLY THE NATIONS THAT SCORED OVER 100 AND THEY CAME OUT WITH 84% OVER 100 AND THE WHITES ONLY HAD 21% THEN IT WOULD BE IMPOSIBLE FOR THE MONGOLOIDS AND WHITES TO BE TIED AT 98.

YOU CANT JUST ADD UP THE NATIONS THAT SCORED OVER 100 AND GET THAT CONCLUSION YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE ALL OF THE MONGOLOID AND WHITE NATIONS IN ORDER TO FIND OUT THAT PERCENTAGE.

ALSO YOU WOULD NEED IFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE INDIVIDUAL SCORES OF EVERY SINGLE TEST TAKEN THAT WE DONT HAVE.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


THESE ARE THE TWO AVERAGES THAT WES K GOT

"Grand total White nations IQ=98.0896929 Asian nation IQ toal was IQ=98.125259 "

SO THEY ARE TIED AT 98.

IN ORDER FOR THE WHITE NATIONS AND MONGOLOID NATIONS TO BE TIED AT 98 THERE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE MORE WHITES IN THERE GROUP TO HAVE SCORED CONSISTANTLY HIGHER THAN THE MONGOLOIDS DID IF NOT THE MONGOLOIDS WOULD HAVE FAR SURPASSED THE 98.

NOW ASSHOLE SO FAR YOU HAVE THEM BOTH TIED AT 98.

SO GO AHEAD AND EXCLUDE THE NIGGERS FROM THE WHITE NATIONS AND PROVE ME RIGHT AGAIN

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 15, 2005.


Why the fuck do you keep posting this stupid shit over and over again AKOFAGGOT!?? Don't you even READ THE POSTS YOU DUMB FAG???

-- JEEZ LUEEZE (You're @ Dumbshit.org), February 16, 2005.

Ah, the young. Always yelling and calling names when simple math will always suffice. Let's rewind to Mr. Kinsler's final calculation.

He showed that the average white nation boasts a 98.0896929 IQ average.

The average asian nation boasts a 98.125259.

These figures are correct.

Mr. AKOBADAGETH is also correct by saying that the elimination of all the blacks in white nations would boost the average white nation IQ score. I am not a racist nor a supremacist, this is merely a fact which King of China exhibited.

But by how much is the question. Would the elimination of the black minority put the white nations ahead? Let's find out.

According to Mr. Kinsler, the combined population of all the listed white nations is 1,040,629,559. According to the CIA site, the number of blacks living in white nations is 38,000,000 give or take.

Now we get to where you actually have to calculate. 38,000,000 is approximately 3.7% of the population. This means that of all the white nations ON EARTH, the blacks account for 3.7%. Everyone with me so far? Good. Let's proceed.

We will now assume that the average black is 15 points behind the average white on IQ scores, taken from the link above. Everybody still with me? Cause now we get to the "heavy" math.

3.7% of the population has 15 IQ points lower than the rest of the population. So 3.7% of 1,040,629,559 is 38,503,293.683, times that by 85 IQ, and you get 3,272,779,963.055. 96.3% of the population is 1,002,126,265.317 times that by 100 IQ, and you get 100,212,626,531.7. Now we do the regular averaging stuff, divvy the percentile, and subtract score. This tells us that the blacks are taking away from the IQ of the white nations by:

0.03 points. So, that tells us to do this.

98.0896929 (white nations IQ) + 0.03 = 98.1196929.

So, if you take away ALL the blacks in ALL the white countries, the final score is as follows:

Asian Nations - 98.125259

White Nations - 98.1196929

So, after all the blacks are subtracted, the Asian nations are still ahead by about 6 one-thousandths of a point. Big deal. I hope that you can all can rest in peace now instead of arguing who's daddy is bigger.

-- Completely Uninterested (don't@bother.com), February 16, 2005.


NOW EXCLUDE THE REST OF THE NONWHITES FROM THE WHITE COUNTRIES

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 16, 2005.

Ah yes, and before I leave you lovely people, I should also like to point out the following:

IQ tests are rounded to the nearest WHOLE number. Nobody has an IQ of 100.4 or 98.7. A difference of even four-tenths of a point is considered negligible and falls under the whole "margin of error" umbrella along with differences up to several whole points. So, by the reckoning of most, asians and whites would be dead even in IQ scores (if everybody on this thread did their math right). If this bothers any of you, my advice is to make a friend or two, pick up a hobby or two, and remember to always wear clean underwear.

Have a nice life, everyone.

-- Completely Uninterested (don't@bother me.com), February 16, 2005.


God, what a bunch of fucking morons!!! AKO AND HIS CRONIES DON'T KNOW JACK!!!

-- ur an idiot (goofy@goober.com), February 16, 2005.

YES UR RITE! OH WELL AT LEAST I JACK OFF

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLEFACTS.COM), February 16, 2005.

First of all, by "whites" do you include Greeks and Romans? After all, from 300 BC to 300 AD Northern Europeans (Gaul, Spain, Germany, Britain etc) "whites" were SLAVES.

St Patrick was captured by Irish mercenaries and sold into slavery in Ireland in the 500's... so slavery is a fairly old and pan-racial problem. Virtually every race and ethnic group has been slaves of some other group in human history.

And every nation has had its day in the sun too... for over 300 years the Spanish Empire was top-dog. Spain was undefeated in most wars from the time of reconquest in 1492 until the late 1700's. Centuries before England's navy ruled the waves, Spain's navy colonized and brought back riches the like of which England never saw.

But then the Spanish Empire imploded and its glory was eclipsed, perhaps forever.

England was top-dog from the mid-1700's to 1914... its status as superpower was gutted and finally lost in WW2...bled dry of manpower and drained economically...

Nowadays America (70% "white") is top-dog. But there's no guarantee and infact many signs that we will not be top-dog for long. 50 years at most.

The answer lies in our morality or lack thereof... nations that have a low birth rate simply fade away and are replaced by other peoples who have more kids.

Nations with lower rates of crime and more healthy family lives also translate into more educated populations capable of progress.

America is strong mostly because it is still the place of refuge for most of the world's peoples. And it remains largely a place of freedom because by and large most Americans still retain a classic morality of self-restraint, pro-marriage and pro-stable family values.

The Left in this country hopes to make us all like France or Sweden...yet Europe is literally dying out. In 100 years white europeans will be MINORITIES in their own nations.

So when you take pride in past accomplishments of people who happen to be white don't think for a second that their achievements come from some intrinsic power or glory to their ethnicity or color!

And I say this as a man of German/Irish stock...

-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), February 16, 2005.


GREEKS AND ROMANS WERE WHITE AND THEY MAY HAVE HAD SLAVES FROM OTHER WHITE NATIONS BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE SLAVES.

ALSO THE ORIGINAL EGYPTIANS WERE WHITE AND BEFORE THAT THE SUMERIANS WERE WHITE, SO EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AMONG THE WHITE NATIONS THE WHITE MAN WAS STILL THE ONE ON TOP!

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 16, 2005.


Damn boy! You still believe the shit you spout off??? White Egyptians??? What drugs are you on AKOFUCKASS??? No such thing as "White Egyptians" you dumb fuck! Quit reading from Stormfront and get into a REAL school shit-for-brains!!

-- JEEZ LUEEZE (You're @ Dumbshit.org), February 16, 2005.

Make sure the school has a math program that starts at about the 3rd grade level...

-- . (.@..com), February 16, 2005.

I think it's pretty obvious who won this debate. Over the last four days, AKOBADAGETH has proven:

a. That he cannot perform math higher than about what they teach you in late elementary school.

b. That he will make up facts (such as the average white IQ being way above 106) when it suits him.

c. That he only reads bits and pieces of other people's posts, which is why he ignored the already documented research about the average Asian IQ being higher than the average White, and the already documented research about the Average Chinese schoolchild having an IQ higher than the average White schoolchild.

d. That even when he is told how to properly apply math to his argument, he still factors in a nation of 100,000 with a nation of 1 billion as equal, which is something that my 9 year old son knows better than to do.

e. That even when you do the math for him, according to all of his criteria, Asian nations still come out on top, albeit not by much.

f. That his typing skills, spelling skills, debate skills, and reading comprehension rival your average 8th grader.

g. That his only loose tie to the white race is the color of his skin. Every other benefit that being White can bring has somehow escaped him.

h. That he has no knowledge that IQ scores go by whole numbers and if Individual A has an IQ of 100.12, and Individual B has an IQ of 100.11, then their IQ scores are both calculated as 100.

i. That as soon as the cold, hard facts are staring him dead in the face, he picks up the milder, easier subjects of race of the ancient Romans and Egyptians.

Don't even waste your time, people. Even if the White nations somehow managed to get a score of 0.01 points higher than the Asian nations, you are arguing with an idiot with an IQ of 12. I'll bet that if you took HIM out of the USA, it would boost the national average by at least a point. He is a four year old that got beat up, so he runs inside to get his daddy's gun to prove that he's some kind of tough guy.

-- - (-@-.com), February 16, 2005.


TO THE NAMELESS MORON ABOVE WHO HAS THE SAME STYLE AS "PASTA" ANOTHER LOOSER I CRUSHED IN DEBATE.

WHATS UP WITH THESE STUPID ABC AND 123 LISTS OF YOURS ? AS IF YOU THINK THAT IS HELPING YOUR SIDE ANY

HERES THE FACTS, SO FAR I SAID THAT THE NIGGERS DRAG DOWN THE SCORE WHICH HAS NOW BEEN PROVEN RIGHT, THATS 1 POINT FORE ME.

I ALSO SAID IF YOU CALCULATE A-L-L OF THE MONGOLOID NATIONS AND ALL OF THE WHITE NATIONS THE WHITE SCORE WOULD BE HIGHER , WELL SO FAR THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE COMPLETELY WES K DID NOT CALCULATE ALL OF THE MONGOLOID NATIONS HE LEFT OUT LAOS, CAMBODIA , VIETNAM JUST TO NAME A FEW.

I ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO DO IT FOR YOURSELVES SO THERE WILL BE NO QUESTION!

OH YEAH AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO EXCLUDE ALL OF THE OTHER NONWHITES FROM THE WHITE NATIONS SUVH AS WETBACKS ,ARABS , TURKS THEY ALSO HAVE LOW ASS SCORES THAT DRAG DOWN THE AVERAGES

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 16, 2005.


http://www.arthurhu.com/index/aintell.htm

Arther Hu's IQ spectrum:

Asian Average 103-4

Where does it say they live in the US?

-- . (.@..com), February 16, 2005.


I would like to respond to the "your posts are 100% gay" thing. How can posts have a sexuality? I find that rather curious.

-- (-@-.com), February 16, 2005.

My farts smell like poo.

-- poopy (stinky@poot.com), February 16, 2005.

I happen to be classified as White. I did not choose to be white. Ok then, I think everyone is overlooking the fact that if what science tells us is correct, and i do believe i recall JW saying hes not a rascist that he just looks at science and the facts it provides, Lets take a look at old lucy, the Australopithcinae found in Africa, which is believed to be the oldest reletive to modern humans. So, no matter what pigement you skin is we are all from Africa in the end. Why argue over stupid things like IQ scores when they arent a very good way to tell someones IQ. Some of the smartest people never finish school, simply because they are bored with it. I think everyone needs to stop this ohh my race is better than your race, where all a part of the human race. What the fuck does it matter who can do math better?

-- AmericanErrorism101 (deathpigeon913@yahoo.com), February 16, 2005.

HEY UNNAMED GUY, IS THIS THE PART YOU ARE REFFERING TOO?

Arthur Hu's "IQ Spectrum" Note that blacks are, as a group, generally below whites, but it is not difficult to find groups who score 100 average or far above under ideal conditions. Those who say that tests are invalid are implying that performance is equal when every test devised by man shows differences in skills such as vocabulary, abstract reasoning, and mathematics. What _is_ open to question is whether the tests measure innate, unchangeable abilities. As this chart shows, there are groups with average or better performance out there. However there is no evidence that any conventional race-based intervention in education results in equal performance.

Only programs based on rigorous academics, such as Barclay and similar charter or magnet schools and not race, such as conventional desegregation, busing students to expensive surburbs or affirmative action in hiring and multiculturalism in curriculum have been shown to result in superior performance.

Age Years --------------------------------------------------- 6 months - infant recognize name and verb 2-4 years - adult chimpanzee or gorilla 15 yrs - average white adult

IQ SPECTRUM Summary: * DO NOT USE TO ATTACK PEOPLE * * DO NOT USE TO ATTACK PEOPLE * -------------------------------------------------------------------- Borderline retarded 70-75 (2)IQ Seligman p.151 Black delinquents 74 Shuey p. 498 Africans (Africa) 75 Lynn as cited by Murray p. 288 Muhammad Ali IQ test 78 Steve Sailer early in career Dull-Normal 80-90 IQ Textbook by Wechsler Southern Black children 80.5 Shuey White delinquents 81 Shuey p. 498 Black felons 81 Shuey p. 498 India 81 Lynn IQ and the Wealth Black SAT 1995 Math 85 Black US average 85 (3)IQ Seligman p.149 Colored (Africa) 85 Lynn as cited by Murray p. 288 Koko the Gorilla 85-95 (1)IQ Seattle Pacific magazine Border Black children 87 Shuey Northern Black children 87.6 Shuey Black G12 NAEP math 89 (7) Black 6-17 DAS 89.2 DAS (10) World Average 90 IQ and the Wealth of Nations Lynn/Vanhanen Average Intelligence 90-109 IQ Textbook by Wechsler Black US northern average 90 (4)IQ Jensen Urban North Black 91.1 Shuey Black 2-3 DAS 91.5 DAS (10) Hisp G12 NAEP math 92 (7) White felons 92 Shey p. 498 White Chronic Welfare 92 Murray Overall criminals 92 Murray Black Calf Math CLAS 92 A.Hu estimate (6) Hispanic 6-17 DAS 93.9 (10) DAS Koko the Gorilla, high end 95 Claims by her trainer Malays 96 Lynn 1977 (Seligman) Black Calf Reading CLAS 96 A.Hu estimate (6) White unwed, but not welf 98 Murray China 100 Lynn IQ and the Wealth Mixed child of black sold 100 Murray p. 310 (5) Black children Boston, NYC100 See note Adopted Asian Children 100 Sandra Scarr British 100 Lynn 1977 (Seligman) Mainland China 101 Lynn (Seligman) White CLAS reading, math 100 A.Hu set by definition (6) Flynn's Asian studies 100 Asian G8 Calf CLAS Math 102 A.Hu (7) White G12 NAEP math 102 (7) British Children 102 IQ Lynn & Song 1994 malnourished Ad.Korean 102 (2)Winick, Meyer and Harris 1975 White 6-17 DAS 102.65 (10) Asian Average 103-4 Murray Police Office Teller Sales104 NandoTimes 9/99 Officer IQ too high Korean national est. 105 IQ Lynn & Song 1994 moderately nour Ad.Korean 106 (2)Winick, Meyer and Harris 1975 Chinese Hong Kong 106 IQ Chan & Lynn 1989 Chinese Hong Kong 106.7 Lynn 1982 (Seligman) vs. American students 100 Cattell's culture Fair Test Japanese 9 yr olds 107 IQ Shigehisa & Lynn 1991 Asian 6-17 DAS 107.2 DAS 1986 Asian 6-17 DAS Reasoning 108.8 DAS 1986 Korean sample 108.5 IQ Lynn & song 1994 Asian G12 NAEP math 109 (7) Korean children in Korea 109 IQ Lynn & Song 1994 Chinese Hong Kong 109.8 Lynn 1982 (Seligman) vs. British 100 Raven's matrices Bright-Normal 110-119 IQ Textbook Wechseler Koreans ad. Belgians@10 110 Frydman & Lynn 1989 Adopted Black children 110 Sandra Scarr Chinese 110 Lynn 1977 (Seligman) well nourished Ad.Korean 112 (2)Winick, Meyer and Harris 1975 Jewish boys 112.8 verbal Ann Arbor Institute (Seligman) Orthodox Jewish children applying to Hebrew schools in 1950's 114.9 Miles B. Storfer Other Storfer jews 110-115 Miles B. Storfer Jews 115 Review of Bell Curve Gays/Lesbian 115 See note (3), set equal to Jews Black math 116 Barclay school Baltimore MD. Black UC Berkeley 115 A.Hu top 15% UC definition Adopted White children 120 Sandra Scarr Black MIT 120 A.Hu based on SAT 1985 White UC Berkeley 124 A.Hu top 5% top 1/3 of UC Rejected police office 124 NandoTimes 9/99 IQ too high vs 104 Superior 120-129 IQ Text Wechsleler Very Superior 130 above White/Asian MIT 138 (top 0.5% of population) --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- All figures subject to accuracy and belief in validity and meaning of test scores. --------------------------------------------------------------------- -----

American men = Asian women at visiospatial tasks (math) (Lynn / Seligman)

Notes:

(1) For those based on SAT scores, conversions were made from SAT scores to an estimate of the US population based on percentile to IQ conversion. (2) Koreans adopted by Americans, Winick, Meyer and Harris 1975 (3) No published figures, but gays vote at same rate as Jews (nearly total), and have 50% college 4-yr degree rate, therefore likely to be comparable to Jews and best Asians in opinion of A.Hu (4) Blacks in New York and Boston are equal to grade level in some grades, equal to 100 IQ by definition. Some schools that are mostly black in Chicago also perform at the 50th percentile. (5) Study of children of mixed parents of European and Black soldiers found no difference (6) A.Hu Converted 1995 CLAS distribution to IQ with white=100 (7) National Assessment of Educational Progress given to national cross-section of students, 1990 (8) "A better idea" The Economist Dec 2, 1995 p. 23 Barclay public school in Baltimore Md. emulates a tough private school to achieve 85 percentile math scores with 90% black students, 82% free lunch who previously were scoring 20-30 percentile. Superintendent was fired who had opposed "rich black man's curriculum" inappropriate for poor students. (9) Flynn looked at studies that put Asian IQ higher and concluded that after you accounted for increases in IQ since the tests were "normalized", Asian IQs were actually no higher than whites might expected to be at the same time. However, he does not dispute that Asians still have superior academic performance in school, which is just as useful as having a high IQ.

"(10) ""Racial and ethnic differences in intelligence in the United States on the Differential Ability Scale Pergamon Personal individual Differences Vol 20 No. 2 pp. 271-273, 1996"

ALL I SEE IS IT STATES THAT THESE TESTS WERE ONLY DONE HERE IN AMERICA, IF NOT WHERE IS THE INFORMATION THAT SHOWS HOW THEY GOT THAT NUMBER OF 103-4 FOR ASIANS?

WHERE IS IT?????

THEY DEFINITELY DIDNT ADD UP ALL OF THE MONGOLOID NATIONS LIKE I AM SAYING, AND THATS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE OVERALL AVERAGES .

YOU CANT JUST LOOK AT ONE NATION LIKE JAPAN AND THEN COMPARE IT TO AMERICA.

LETS SEE HOW THEY GOT THAT NUMBER?



-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 16, 2005.


Geez AKO, you keep ranting about color but all you've done is make a liar out of yourself as you always do. You're a moron and we DON'T need you here.

-- (yur@putz.com), February 17, 2005.

HEY NAMELESS ONE, HELL ACCORDING TO YOUR SOURCE KOKO THE GORILLA HAS AN IQ OF 85 - 95 THATS HIGHER THAN A NIGGER , HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 17, 2005.

You, AKOPUSSYFAG are a really stupid and mean-spirited LOSER! ANYONE with an IQ above 001 (Yours and your mother's) is clearly suerior to a racist sack of shit like you!

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), February 17, 2005.

OOPS BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NEEGROZ! IT LOOK LIKE I GOT MY ASS HANDED TO ME SO BAD I FURGOT THAT THIS TOPIC WAS ABOUT ASIANS! I GET SO CONFUZED SOMETIMES

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLEFACTS.COM), February 17, 2005.

PERHAPS THE IMPOSTER DIDNT SEE THIS POST.

ALL I SEE IS IT STATES THAT THESE TESTS WERE ONLY DONE HERE IN AMERICA, IF NOT WHERE IS THE INFORMATION THAT SHOWS HOW THEY GOT THAT NUMBER OF 103-4 FOR ASIANS?

WHERE IS IT?????

THEY DEFINITELY DIDNT ADD UP ALL OF THE MONGOLOID NATIONS LIKE I AM SAYING, AND THATS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE OVERALL AVERAGES .

YOU CANT JUST LOOK AT ONE NATION LIKE JAPAN AND THEN COMPARE IT TO AMERICA.

LETS SEE HOW THEY GOT THAT NUMBER?

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 17, 2005.


KOKO THE GORILLA HAS AN IQ OF 85 - 95 THATS HIGHER THAN MOST ASIAN NATIONS AS WELL.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 17, 2005.

That's a LOT higher than YOURS AKOFAGGOT.

-- JEEZ LUEEZE (yur@putz.com), February 18, 2005.

AKO's IQ = 0

-- AKO IS BORING (ako_lovestoget-his@ss_r.aped!), February 18, 2005.

Got that right. AKO is a boring dumbass racist faggot. A single- celled organism is far more intelligent than AKO.

-- JEEZ LUEEZE (yur@putz.com), February 19, 2005.

I declare the King of China to be the absolute victor in this debate. Not only did he destroy AKOBADAGETH with basic arithmetic, AKO has yet to show one published fact that so much as suggests that Asians are intellectually inferior. He has not produced even one when several sources to the contrary have been shown.

On top of that, AKO keeps changing the subject back to blacks when the subject matter was clearly whites and asians. AKO loses this debate, feet and hands down.

-- (coach@debate.com), February 27, 2005.


YOUR A LITTLE LATE FOR YOUR IMPUT, I WON THIS DEBATE LONG AGO.

ADD UP EVERYTHING I SAID AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), February 27, 2005.


Damn boy! You really ARE a total dumbass!! You can't accept the fact that you got assraped yet again!! Bottom line, YOU LOST AGAIN AKOFAG!!!

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), February 28, 2005.

Lol, Ako says add up everything he says. let's do that.

bad math + bad spelling + bad math again + no published statistics + even by his calculations he loses + everyone agrees that he lost but him + no facts + changing the subject + bad debating = one lost debate by one big loser lmao

-- (id@yei.com), February 28, 2005.


don't forget the made up facts.

-- (.@..com), March 01, 2005.

HEY I DIDUNT LOOSE! JUST DO THE MATH WITH ME!

IF EVERY WHITE PERSUN HAS AN IQ OF 140 AND EVERY NEEGROW HAS AN IQ OF 50 THEN YOU SUBTRACT 50 FROM 140 AND GET 200! SO IF YOU GOT RID OF ALL THE MINORITIES, THE IQ OF THE USA IS 200! AND THAT IS WAY HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE ASIAN. THOSE ARE THE INDISPUTTABLE FACTS! UM...I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A SOURCE FOR THIS STUFF, HANG ON LET MEE CHECK.

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLEFACTS.COM), March 01, 2005.


Fuck off AKOFAG! Your "facts" are just made-up bullshit that come out of your hairy ass! You DON'T have any credible sources and you deny the REAL evidence right in front of you. You're a LOSER you simpleton!

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), March 02, 2005.

To All: Greetings from the Oracle. My goodness. Look at the number of responses provided to the original question placed on this particular LUSENET board.

It appears the intent of Just Wondering was to acquire factual knowledge on what makes a Negro equal to a white man. He has yet to be answered. At no time has there been offered any evidence the races are equal to one another. All the Oracle can glean from the information contained within the myriad of messages is that there is no proof of this so-called racial equality. Most certainly we have been treated to data from both sides of the argument concerning Asian intelligence. This data was twisted, turned and tainted dependant on whom was doing the arguing. What is most curious is the fact that the Oracle’s detractors never arrived at the conclusion that Asians are equal to the white man in intelligence. Even their analysis indicates a statistical edge be given to the Asians. By their own analysis they prove what the Oracle has long been saying: The races are not equal.

The detractors of the Oracle are fond of stating that people should be judged on an individual basis. While the Oracle admits that this sounds like a philosophy that is fair, this philosophy fails to be consistent when set next to the belief that all men are equal. Remember, if you judge any person to be of more worth than another, what does this do to the theory of universal equality? If you judged two individuals to be unequal to one another, how are you magically able to transform them into being equal once again? The dilemma of yours the Oracle sees in this practice of judging people individually is how do you treat these two unequal people? Which path do you take? Do you treat them unequally because of their individuality, or do you treat them as equals due to your Universal Equality Clause.

It is quite obvious the Oracle’s detractors are a collection of confused individuals. Notice how they say they judge everybody on an individual basis, yet literally fall all over themselves to defend the Negro as a group.

The Oracle senses your limited attention span to be slipping. He shall not keep you here much longer. Just long enough to show you one more item of your hypocrisy.

The Oracle is called unenlightened when He says that the dark race is, how shall we say, less than equal to a white man. The Oracle is called unfair because His opinions cover an entire race and He has not taken into account the INDIVIDUAL Negroes. Well My friend, you are guilty of these same fundamentals as you accuse the Oracle of. You see, when the Oracle ignores the individual and attacks the Negro as a race, He is considered unenlightened, uncouth and undesirable, yet when you fail to take into consideration individual Negroes and defend them as a race, you are to be supposed to be commended, honored and lauded. Let us recap this. When the Oracle attacks the entire race, He is bad, and when you defend the entire race, you are good. How quaint.

Where does your “Judgment of the Individual” theory come into play when you defend the Negro as a race? Obviously nowhere. You only trot that theory out when you cannot provide evidence the races are equal. You need to ask yourselves, if individuals are unequal to one another, how are the races magically equal? Again, your “Judgment of the Individual” theory cannot be applied in a manner that is consistent with your “Universal Equality” theory.

Remember, you are ALWAYS free to disagree with the Oracle. He cannot force you to accept what He says is the Truth, He can only reveal to you the Truth that has been revealed to Him. It is up to you to weigh the merits of His case and either accept them or reject them. It is My sincerest wish that you continue to look upon the Oracle as one of the most reliable sources of information found on the Internet today. After all, four out of five Negroes surveyed, trust the Oracle.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), March 08, 2005.


The WHOREACLE is a disingenuous MORON lacking in the most basic skills of understanding logic and everything else. Relying on junk "science" to bolster your rather pathetic ego only proves that you, Whoreacle, are just another in a long line of fools and hypocrites whining about shit you have absolutely NO control over. We're done with you, and your lover AKO have been proven to be the LOSERS in all these arguments that you and he start.

-- (ain't tellin' @ you.com), March 08, 2005.

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