THe HoloHOAX exposed

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check this out, makes some interesting reading, at the moment the guy who wrote this stuff (germar rudlof)is facing jail for 'thought crimes'. Because no one has been able to actually refute his research its safer to lock him up.

http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

-- just the facts. (truth@last.net), November 21, 2004

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just read the sruff first before spouting off a the mouth in a pro jew frenzy.

-- uh huh (truth@last.net), November 21, 2004.

Regardless of whether or not he is correct, he shouldn't be imprisoned for his beleifs and writings.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 21, 2004.

firstly im not anti-jew or racist, just anti-lies and media fed bullshit

Anyway, heres a qoute from the man himself about whats happening...

Nov. 15, 2004
http://www.vho.org

Dear friends:
Last week I received the final decision of the INS Board of Appeals regarding my case: They simply refused to look at it and confirmed the decision by the INS court "without opinion".

The decision of the INS court was handed down in summer 2003: They claim I filed a frivolous application, resulting in: unvoluntary departure (=in handcuffs to Germany), banned for a lifetime (I can never return to the US), and no remedy (even my current marriage or anything else can change that). This verdict is similar to what Ernst Zündel faced in February 2003.

We now have to file an appeal to a Federal Court until early December. There is a slim chance that this court will refuse to hear my case as well. If that happens, I will be in a German dungeon early next year. In case they do hear my case, they will probably decide later next year. Whether it will result in a chance of having a remedy (my marriage) needs to be proven. Theoretically they have to throw all due process laws into the dust bin to deny me that right, because legally speaking I was sentenced for a crime (frivolous application = forgery of evidence) of which I was neither accused during the trial, nor does the verdict claim to have any evidence for it. To compare what the INS has done with a penal parallel: They accused me of theft during the trial, but in the written verdict they suddenly sentenced me for murder, without even claiming that there is any evidence that I murdered anyone. But it would not be the first time that courts break the law in order to do exactly that: getting rid of revisionists. I therefore do not have too many illusions.

Since all of my IDs have expired, I sit in a trap here without another chance to go elsewhere. So if that appeal to the Federal Court fails, the worldwide productivity of revisionism will go down 90% for five years to come (I hope they put all of my thought crimes into one case, or otherwise it may result in ten years plus...).

During the next several days I will get in touch with some of you in order to make sure, that my website and all other vital life signs of revisionism as created by me keep buzzing should I go lop-sided.

Thanks

Germar
chp@vho.org

-- -- (truth@last.net), November 21, 2004.

Pure bullshit! Haven't we learned anything from History? This thread is nothing but lameass shit and we don't have to put up with it!

-- (Hate @ SUCKS.com), November 27, 2004.

Well Stalin killed about 7 million people in the Ukrain alone. They are just beginning to tell kids about that. And Mao killed at least ten times as chinese as what died in the Hoalocoast. They never teach that in public schools. I guess we will have to wait another 20 years for the same shitheads to die, the Maoist cunts of the 60's. As those that came back from the USSR in the 30's and said they have seen Uthopia.

Also the Chinese were not the chosen ones.

-- W (wwils12@netzero.com), November 27, 2004.



Well Stalin killed about 7 million people in the Ukrain alone. They are just beginning to tell kids about that. And Mao killed at least ten times as chinese as what died in the Hoalocoast. They never teach that in public schools. I guess we will have to wait another 20 years for the same shitheads to die, the Maoist cunts of the 60's. Who now teach on campuses and write text books. And have done an excellent job of turning college into what high school used to be, before their spoiled useless asses came about. As those that came back from the USSR in the 30's and said they have seen Uthopia.

Also the Chinese were not the chosen ones, so the media may not make as much lite of it.

-- W (wwils12@netzero.com), November 27, 2004.


good points, why must we always here about the fking jews hardship in WW2? its like theyre the only ones who suffered. The spineless cunts wouldnt put up a fight anyway so what the fk they expect?

The Irish lost about 3 million people in the great famine back in 1847-50. Half on those died from hunger and hardship the rest were forced to emigrate. You dont see those guys constantly whining on and on about it like they were the only ones to ever suffer. At least they had the backbone to fight the british for years. It was the british who caused that famine by pillaging all the food and livestock from ireland at the time and leaving the irish to starve.

The native americans lost over 90% of their population through war and disease courtsey of white europeans, they were fked over, probably worse than any other race in history (okay mabye i exadgerate but..).

Like you say stalin and his commies commited likely the biggest mass murder with the death of almost ten million ukrainians, belarusians, chechens etc. In fact you could probably double that number when you add in his own ppl who were worked to death or used as cannon fodder in the war. The mind boggles at the thought of it

Pol pot killed more of his own people than nazis supposedly killed jews. At at last theres plenty proof of it with their skull monuments and uncoverd mass graves etc . The proof of the jewish holocaust? .. 'witness testimonies' and hollywood epics. And look what those poor jews are doing in the middle east. Killing palastinian men, women and children on a daily basis.Yet they still whine and look for sympathy

Now before anyone starts spitting out the words 'anti-semite' let me say i dont hets the jews or any other race for that matter, im just sick of them constantly whining on about something that we only really have their word to go on and moaning like they ar the only race that ever suffered like this when other races suffered so much more.

Look, this in my point, the Jews got a rough time back in WW2 but so did most everybody else, but get over it, move on, STOP MILKING IT ok? sheesh.

-- bb (bill@bong.zzz), November 28, 2004.

I feel the same way. Your last sentence says it all. I mean they got Israel because of our guilt, partially because we denied many of them from coming here while Hitler was in power. But it's still something we should not have ever got involved with and continue to support, and aid in conflicts. But since the arabs attacked us on 9/11 we have to strike back, and show we are not to be fucked with. But that is another story.

Hitler wiped out 95% of the Gypsy population, but we do not hear much about that (although I don't see why many people would complain there) They will not talk about other forms of genocide if there is not a group they think can benifit from it. It's very bad what happened to the Jews but not unique and not close to as massive as other atrocities.

But Israel could not exist without our guilt.

-- W (wwils12@netzero.com), November 28, 2004.


We were supposedly fighting racism but blacks were still getting lynched and minorities had trouble getting jobs and just functioning in society. The true reason for WW2 would be Pearl harbor, Stopping Nazi world domination, And Nazi facism.

-- X (FULoSHt@Tek.com), November 30, 2004.

Wow X, you just made the smartest statement on this thread. It's true, the United States isn't exactly one to be criticising racism, considering the fact that, as you said, we were still lynching blacks at the time. We also turned away all Jewish refugees during the war. Most of them were forced to go back to Germany and were killed. We did the right thing by stopping Hitler though.

Oh, and BB, there WERE mass graves found in Germany after the war, along with the crematoriums and mountains of documents that prove the holocaust happened. Let me ask you this, if the holocaust never happened, where the fuck did those nine million people go? Maybe they just dissapeared, like your argument.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), November 30, 2004.



Thanks, i know we did the right thing. I had no idea how oppressive Nazi facism was until reading the George Orwell book. I don't remember being told how bad it was in school. Also I wrote "White Men Creators of Civilations." If u haven't read it, it's good for a laff.

-- X (FULOSHT@Tek.com), December 01, 2004.

its 9 million now is it? thats a jump of 3 million, but hey its the jews were talking bout here so if they throw in a few million here and there so what, we have their 'testimonies' to go on. Documents prove that they were taken prisoner but not that they were killed. Im not saying it didnt happen that there were mass murders , just that theyve completely exadgerated the numbers from thousands to millions , thats all really.

-- bb (bb@bb.bb), December 06, 2004.

There were mass murders yes. But 1 million at the VERY most (very generous estimate) No one shall ever prove otherwise.

This is link is much easier then the vho.org book to go through and doesn't read like a maze.

Which is how the internet reads, like a kid's game puzzle with a mousey rather than just a database. Where you type in the information and get the computer connects the dots for you.

They make some genuine points here Those interested in a debate about the Holocoast should go there. Don't pay any attention to PR81, he ignores the nasty points.

...The idiotic cunt who proves fuckall and disproves nothing.

Speaking of which where is Garret?

-- (Hate @ Sucks.Org), December 07, 2004.


"its 9 million now is it? thats a jump of 3 million, but hey its the jews were talking bout here so if they throw in a few million here and there so what, we have their 'testimonies' to go on."

Wasn't just Jews. It was also Gypsies, Poles, Slavs, homosexuals, the mentally retarded or handicapped, people with disabilities...the list goes on and on to include dozens of minor groups of people that lucked their way onto Hitler's shit list. The 6 million number that you hear sometimes is only the Jews killed, not taking into account all of the other minorites, plus the political prisoners. Estimates for the total number of people killed in the camps is usualy about 9 million, although some estimates range as high as 12 million. So no, I didn't "jump 3 million", I was taking into account non-Jews that were also killed in the camps. Weren't you the one who was bitching about how people only pay attention to Jewish deaths?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), December 07, 2004.


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