Racism to be classified as a mental illness?

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http://www.mentalhealth.samhsa.gov/cre/ch2_racism_discrimination_and_mental_health.asp

"A mental disorder designation for racism would help someone like Buford Furrow Jr., the man who went on a shooting spree in Los Angeles that left an Asian-American mailman dead and several people at a Jewish community center day care wounded. Furrow had a history of involvement in hate groups, but he also had a record of treatment for serious mental illness. Could his racist rampage simply be another mental illness for which he needs treatment rather than punishment?"

Racism must be defined before anyone comments on this thread:

RACISM rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi- Function: noun 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Having posted the definition, the following groups are NOT races: Mexicans, Jews, Muslims, Christains, Anarchists, Arabs, Iraqis and any other ETHNIC group. Discrimination based on ethnicity is NOT racism, its prejudice. We already know that certain posters on this forum (whom the Mods have decided not to delete) are racists. I hope I havent been classified as one of them especially since my ethnic background crosses three major boundaries (White, Black, Latino). I admit that I have prejudices and I discriminate, but not based on race. Any ideas?

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004

Answers

Well, SBM, I think that your predjudices are misguided, but I'm not one to make you think otherwise... You have your reasons, I can respect that I suppose, but AKO is just a blathering retard who doensn't have any points whatsoever and resorts to name calling. Gotta love his "research" too. Now, on the subject at hand, I don't think racism is a mental illness, per se. I think it's something that people resort to when they've had a bad experience, or have been molded to believe certain things, or who have a shitty life and need a good scapegoat to blame, mainly black folks and jews. It's a mental scar, for sure, but not necessarily a mental illness. It's not something you're born with. It's something you slowly and steadily learn. You can unlearn it as well, but when you're a close minded dolt like Ako and have meth-popping morons like the oracle backing your ideals up, you tend not to try something different. It's all a lack of self-confidence.

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), November 18, 2004.

"PREJUDICE EXISTS IN JUST ABOUT EVERY LIVING CREATURE. THEY HAVE TAKEN MICE FROM ONE GROUP (FAMILY) OF MICE AND SENCE MICE USE MAINLY THEIR SENCE OF SMELL ,THEY THEN TAKE THE MOUSE AND WASH IT OFF ,CLEAN IT SO THAT THE ORIGINAL GROUP SMELL IS OFF OF IT .THEN THEY TAKE THE MOUSE AND RUB IT AROUND THE CAGE OF ANOTHER GROUP OF MICE SO THAT IT PICKS UP THE SMELL OF THE OTHER GROUP OF MICE."

Okay, that's a good example of animal behavior, but it is not really relevant here. What you believe is that the white man is SUPERIOR to others. Such is simply not the case. Populations of all "racial" phenotypes may have a groupthink mentality for their perceived group. Much like your example. However, your views are not shared with others in your self-perceived group (whites). People of all races have the negative traits you hate. Your racism is irrational and not based in fact. You cannot prove that you are superior to any other person alive, and neither can I. Just more intelligent (or less). I doubt you understand any of this.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004.


We ought to start by wiping YOU out AKOFAGGOTASS.

-- (Tired of @ dumbass.com), November 19, 2004.

Wow.

-- Incog (CrisisKils@hotmail.com), November 19, 2004.

As I have told you over the years, YOU YOURSELF are inferior intellectually to just about everyone I have run across. You are only semi-literate (probably because the English language was too difficult for you to master), your inferiority complex dictates 90% of what you write, and you are in denial. You somehow feel that you are superior to others, yet cannot produce one shred of evidence to support your claim. You have no skills, no education, no balls and no life. I am laughing at your alleged "superiority". Other normal whites do not share your views, and that's all that matters. You can post "NIGERS AER INFERIER" all day, and nothing will change the fact that you are an outcast from your own race. BWAHAHAHAHA.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 19, 2004.


"Im smarter than you" "No my people are superior"

WTF, Guys! How many times have we heard you all say the same exact shit? AKO, if you want ppl to read your so called facts then fucking turn off the Caps! You will never convince anyone to think like you if they dont read your shit. And thats why any of us are here. To spread our Ideas and maybe learn a few things along the way. And KOBE... youre encouraging him... its like Kindergardeners. "Yes you are" "No Im not" "Yes you are" You seem decent enough. Why bother?

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 19, 2004.


Youre right, Tator, but you mods refuse to delete these stupid threads which start with "NIGURRS AER APES AND EET WATURMELUN", thus forcing the first response to be something like "Shut up AKOFUCK", then the rest of the threads are wasted handing AKO his ass. I thought you guys had more subject matter than that. I know you are getting tired of this same old shit arent you?

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 19, 2004.

Nope It's you that's the nigger. A vanilla wraped white-nigger with shit for brains. You love to be ass rapped don't you?! Yes you do!

-- (ako_lovestoget-his@ss_r.aped!), November 19, 2004.

BWAHAHAHAHA. Now I gotta wash the shit off my cock.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 20, 2004.

Do you ever notice that the people who scream racism the loudest are usually the most racist? Look at the zionist. Most of the whites were shamed into being the least racist after the church bombing 40 years ago but I notice when a black person does something as psychopathic they have a lot of excuses. Oh well. I like it when people are not afraid to speak their minds and some day we will all learn that whites are not the only racist folks on the planet.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@kobehq.com), November 20, 2004.


Cmon, Brasky. I know you have never liked me, but to call me a "Zionist" is kinda out there. Why would you consider me a Zionist, when there is no reason for me to be? Im not Jewish, no members of KOBE are Jewish, but we support Israel because it is the only stable democracy in the Middle East. Do you know what a Zionist really is?

Zi·on·ism Pronunciation: 'zI-&-"ni-z&m Function: noun : an international movement orig. for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel - Zi·on·ist /-nist/ adjective or noun - Zi·on·is·tic /"zI-&-'nis-tik/ adjective

What interest would I, a biracial American who is not Jewish , have in doing anything to support a specific Jewish movement? Im a Christian (more or less), but Im American first and foremost.

Your message is easily deciphered:

"Do you ever notice that the people who scream racism the loudest are usually the most racist? Look at the zionist. Most of the whites were shamed into being the least racist after the church bombing 40 years ago but I notice when a black person does something as psychopathic they have a lot of excuses."

Please provide examples. Also, if you could narrow your examples to instances where people may have been tortured (like being dragged alive from the back of a truck until dead), or hanged from trees, or having feet cut off, or being murdered and having organs cooked and eaten (Dahmer). Good luck. Only white racists are capable of such things....and Fundamentalist mudslums.

"Oh well. I like it when people are not afraid to speak their minds and some day we will all learn that whites are not the only racist folks on the planet."

I agree. Strangely enough, I have experienced more racism from blacks than from whites in my lifetime. Because I am part black, they want to claim my membership in their "Black community", yet they reject me because I do not share their "culture" or mannerisms or speech. They put me down because I am educated well-off financially, AND a Republican. Those blacks with similar backgrounds dont seem to have those hangups at all. Whites (both my relatives and friends), see my mixed heritage as an advantage, and encourage me.

Time to make your own observations. After we bought Voy forums and closed down SJD's board, and after we destroyed DeVoy, the ridiculous articles regarding KOBE as the FBI, Computers NLA, and KOBE being a Mossad operation stopped. It was never even close to the truth. If you dont like blacks, I can understand that. I hate ghetto behavior, rap, laziness, and "Ebonics" as well. Thing is, those things are no longer exclusively black elements. In my neighborhood, the only rap one hears is coming from youngish white kids wearing droopy clothes and wearing their baseball caps backwards, referring to themselves as "nigga". Any comments on that?

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 20, 2004.


I don't respect white kids or black kids who clone themselves after thugs but when I was a kid we did similar things so I won't condemn it too loudly. We all grew our hair long, smoked alot of pot, had keg parties and occasionaly dropped acid. I cannot condemn them too loudly because I was a hooligan too at one time. It was a good thing I joined the Navy when I did. Every one of my friends got busted for cocaine, most of them sold it when they got nabbed. I am too much of a cheap scotsman to get involved in that and as a result I have a clean record. If I had a kid like me or like the kids nowdays I would take them to the navy or airforce recruiter before they get a permanent mark on their record. I don't hate black deadbeats anymore than I hate white deadbeats. You bring up jeffery dahmer but lately on court tv I am only hearing about black serial killers. I think the blacks are catching up as far as mentally unbalanced murders. Who cares? I'll hate black serial killers as I would hate white serial killers. I actually have an eminem cd. Last week at church this Dad had his derelict sons with him and they were doing slim shady lyrics. I gave them a few too. That was funny and they were surprised.Eminem has alot of energy in his lyrics so I like it although I haven't listened to him in over half a year. Do I start taking eminem aggression out on people? Nah, I'll take out my aggression on the work around the house and yard.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@moralmajority.com), November 20, 2004.

WELL PUT. I totally agree with everything you said. Every now and then a catchy rap beat might grab my ear, and sometimes a catchy lyric, but its still a hard swallow. At least its American!

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 20, 2004.

you know, i used to tink thatwe all really the same and we should all ust get along. But the more i look around the more i see what were once good cities, countries aand places in general, turned to total shit by floods of blacks and other shit skinned peoples wo operate/ think always from some very base level, not unlike locusts. Soon as they get what they can take they start to steal what they cant have. Look at any contry in africa. Once great states and cities run by europeans they be turned into warring ruins by the savage niggers.

i look around america and i see the same thing happening too. Not that all niggers are bad, but as a race they are detrimental to the USA and will eventually bring about its downfall. Of course the jews have played a part in this from the start and constantly strive to undermine the very country that gave them Isreal and the power and wealth they now have.

it saddens me to see where america is heading but with the neo-cons in power theyll most likely fuck it up all by themselves.

-- b (bob@thisn.that), November 21, 2004.

"Not that all niggers are bad, but as a race they are detrimental to the USA and will eventually bring about its downfall."

BWAHAHAHA.

Its not the black who will bring its downfall, its the liberals who keep supporting the welfare state mentality, who turn their heads as millions of illegal Mexicans flood over our borders. Those people are mostly white. But the downfall of the United States cannot be blamed on a "racial" group. You are wrong. I am part black, and I have served in the military, am a Republican, and have been paying thousands in taxes to support losers who use welfare benefits. To me, welfare recipients are losers and have no right to my money.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 21, 2004.



Kobe, some folks on welfare are probably not losers but screw up the safety net for folks that have disabled ppl in their families. I am not on welfare and my son is near 18 so he will get disability. I will get a part time job and probably still avoid welfare. I too have a problem when ppl who abuse this system because it makes it very difficult for normal folks to get assistance. Fortunatley I had a good job when my son was young but here in florida there is no state program to give me in home care so I can get full time work. Kobe, don't you tire of seeing our jobs get sucked out of this country at the alarming rate? I don't want any more corporate tax cuts unless it involves companies expanding in the USA.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@supportamerica.com), November 21, 2004.

I agree with you about the export of American jobs. Its like a big economic vein which has been cut and is bleeding. Export our jobs and our industry, and you kill the American economy.

"Kobe, some folks on welfare are probably not losers but screw up the safety net for folks that have disabled ppl in their families. I am not on welfare and my son is near 18 so he will get disability."

Yep, that's true. I was talking about the "professional" welfare parasites who know all the rules about how much they can work before their check gets cut off, those who INTENTIONALLY work the system so that they dont have to work. Never mind that they prefer to live a lifestyle which can be supported by a welfare check (so that they dont have to work). I am sorry if I have unintentionally insulted you. You certainly dont fall into that category.

"I will get a part time job and probably still avoid welfare. I too have a problem when ppl who abuse this system because it makes it very difficult for normal folks to get assistance. Fortunatley I had a good job when my son was young but here in florida there is no state program to give me in home care so I can get full time work."

See what I mean? Just think, in your state of Florida and in my state of California, we have to spend almost 30% of our general assistance money to support ILLEGAL aliens' "right" to welfare under our Federal laws. Florida has Cuban and Mexican aliens, and California has Mexican illegals coming out of the walls. If there was more money available to AMERICANS, you could have money to support in home care for your son. You sound like most Americans in the sense that you dont like things the way they are.

"Kobe, don't you tire of seeing our jobs get sucked out of this country at the alarming rate? I don't want any more corporate tax cuts unless it involves companies expanding in the USA."

Im right there with you on that.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 22, 2004.


Not only are jobs leaving the US but Bush wants to make the Illegals legal so that they can take even more jobs from us!

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 22, 2004.

SBM, Tator, you're completely right. I didn't think I used to agree with the whole "they're stealing our jobs" mentality, But as I get older, I realize that as long as this outsourcing and hiring of illegal aliens continues, things are just going to get harder for Americans. I was thinking about getting started in online business, designing websites and the like... I've been studying coding languages and working with dreamweaver and such to get better. But as I thought about this, another thought came into the picture. Why would anyone want my work when a guy in Dheli with a masters degree in computer sciece & webiste design will do it for a third of the price? It's rediculous, outsourcing needs to stop, we need to bring jobs back into the U.S. This is where I'm with anti strongly. We need to become an isolationist nation, for the most part, leave the world alone and deal with our own affairs. God knows if we don't do this soon, we're all fucked anyway. And thats just for outsourcing. When it comes to illegal immigrants, we need to toughen up a lot on that. No, that doesn't mean shoot them if they try to ditch across the border, it just means that we need to find and remove aliens, they're accepting jobs for less money and leaving us with none. It's getting bad, and I fear by the time I raise a family, that jobs in my area of expertise will be few and far between.

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), November 22, 2004.

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