That's it, I'm fed up.

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KC, it was either you or Tator that said something along the lines of, "racial slurs are ok, just don't overuse them" a while back, I'm sick of coming here every day and reading "NIGGERS SUK MUSLIMS SUK BRUN IN HEL NIGGERS --AKOBADAGETH" I wish we could be debating actual politics, not listen to this no-nothing retard blather on about his fucking racial issues. He's breaking the rules, can you PLEASE do something?

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), November 16, 2004

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It is kinda pathetic, isnt it? I may have come here initially and tangled with him, but he is just so stupid and makes such asinine statements that Im not even interested in flaming him anymore. He was once banned here, but the mods have decided to allow him to post. We banned him from our boards years ago. Even the word "AKOBADAGETH" is in our word censor. I wish the mods would decide not to learn by trial and error and simply take the advice from others who are familiar with him and BAN the fucker.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 16, 2004.

Its kinda hard to Mod a site such as this. Phil Greenspun hasnt given us a word censor. Plus we cant ban an individual because Phil doesnt have it set up where you have to log in and membership can be revoked. Basicly put I had to go through every post by myself. After a site gets bigger or there are alot of responses that gets hard. Therefore I gave the PassWord to a few people to help me out. Kayce whom I know from years ago on these Boards (Anarchy 1 and All Things Final Fantasy) and Anti-Bush who seems extreamly intelegent expecially for his age. There are also others. People whom I can trust. We cant delete everything and we realise that everyone has the right to his or her opinion. We just wish that they would write more that one topic or atleast try and incorperate their main issue into other topics like I do with Liberty and Limited Government (Boarderline Anarchy)!

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 16, 2004.

"NIGGERS SUK MUSLIMS SUK BRUN IN HEL NIGGERS --AKOBADAGETH"

Actually, I'm not sure he's even said anything that intelligent yet.

"he is just so stupid and makes such asinine statements that Im not even interested in flaming him anymore."

Agreed. It was fun busting his ass in front of all of you for a while, but now...eh. It's gotten too easy. He's not even a challenge. I feel like I'm playing "Risk" with my retarded cousin. With Ack, you just bust his ass and bust it, but he thinks that if he gets the last word that he "wins" somehow.

"We banned him from our boards years ago."

Isn't that sad? YEARS ago. I wonder when was the last time he left the house? Put on a suit? Got laid? Ate at a restaurant? YEARS ago he got banned. Now Kobe shows up, and Ack follows him here like a flea on a dog's dick. YEARS ago he got banned. Does he even do anything except sit in front of the computer? I mean I understand if you have a problem with someone, you go through your little bitterness stage then decide that you just don't like them but you have to live with them. But YEARS ago he got banned. This just keeps getting sadder and sadder.

"BAN the fucker. "

Agreed. He's making his useless little reincarnation topic to try and make up for all his useless posts, but I say it's only a matter of time before we're niggering again. He's an expert on blacks which I find to be weird. I don't like asparagus and I wish there wasn't so much of it around, but I don't go to chocolate chip cookie websites and yell "I HAET ASPRGUS" for years on end.

Anyways, i agree with U and Kobe. Get rid of his ass. He's the only person I've ever met that you can agree with or he agrees with you, but still somehow feels the need to argue. I think we can do Ack a favor. As you all can clearly see, all he wants is attention. I think if we ban him, then he might actually leave the house and maybe even make a friend! Come on, mods...do the humane thing.

-- Pasta (PSTAH@INDUSPUTTABELFATZ.COM), November 16, 2004.


Oh and Dick? No offense dude, but I don't really buy the whole "it's hard to mod this site" thing. We've got you, KC, and Anti-Bush. Three mods, and "more" according to you. I'm sure that if you all start trimming his posts, one at a time, maybe he'll get the hint that nobody likes or wants him here. I came to this site to talk about government issues and politics, not niggers and Rastafarians. I'm not gonna go to the "Junkyard Wars" forum here and start yelling about Republicans. Least of all in all-caps with shitty grammar, punctuation, and spelling. Again, no offense, but I don't buy the whole "nothing I can do" thing. Least of all with at least three of you with the password. I saw that you guys deleted his post on Islam. I say "good start".

-- Pasta (macaroni@cheese.com), November 16, 2004.

And what do you suggest? That I give up my life, site on this comp all day and night, and delete anything that I deem unworthy? If you remember, this site is called Anarchy 2. Anarchy! I can delete their bullshit yes, but then I would also have to delete the good posts that you reply (replying to nothing would make you look stupid). I dont have time to read every single little post and decide whether it should stay or go. I am against Government. I refuse to be the one that Governs. I delete illegal shit that people have a tendency to put on here sometimes and I sent the IPs to the FBI. The shit stopped soon so I guess they got them.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 16, 2004.


No.

Don't get defensive, dude. I'm suggesting that since there are at least three mods, that nobody has to give up their lives to correct the problem. Anti logs on, axes a few, you log on and axe a few, KC logs on and axes a few...over time, we have progress. I'm suggesting that the issue be fixed before this board is destroyed.

I understand your apolitical stance, but this is exactly how the first Anarchy board, the FBI board, the Government of the United States board, the God board, and others I probably don't even know about, got destroyed. It starts off rather harmlessly, one fool foaming at the mouth going ignored. Weeks go by and foamy fool has invited all of his friends because the mods are letting it slide. Next thing you know, the "New Questions" looks like:

NIGGER!

NIGGER!

NIGGER!

KIDDY PORN!

NIGGER!

If you want to let that happen, then fine, it's yours. This board isn't so important to me that I can't do without it. I just say it's not much of an excuse to say that there's nothing you can do with three mods. If you refuse to govern, fine. Your views are your views, and I won't question them. I'm just saying it's a little inconsistent for you to say this:

"Basicly put I had to go through every post by myself. After a site gets bigger or there are alot of responses that gets hard. Therefore I gave the PassWord to a few people to help me out."

and then say this:

"I refuse to be the one that Governs."

Like I said. You want this site to turn into "The Greenspun Nigger Bash", then that's fine. What you want for your board is your business. However, the CURRENT members are asking politely for a solution NOW, because by the time this site gets to that level, we'll all be gone and not care.

-- Pasta (spaghetti@noodles.com), November 16, 2004.


then you mod. post a real addy and I will confirm that its you with the IP. then I will send it to you. I really dont have time to do it anymore what with the War on Terror and all... Work work work... thats my life. All I ask is that if someone that you deem unacceptable posts something that isnt just BS then dont delete it. And not everyone is intelegent enough to hold a debate. Some people always argue and never change their minds. I used to be a racist ass southerner. And a Republican. Rush was God. Give 'em a chance. Anyone can change.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 17, 2004.

Question, Ravioli, why have you posted as the Oracle? I am reserching your several IPs before I give up the Password. And of course Anti and KillerCrud would have to give their OKs. But so far Im cool with it.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 17, 2004.

To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. Many have come to the foot of the Oracle to learn and discuss their life’s problems. The Oracle has never turned His back on anyone who approaches with the humility and respect as you have shown. The Oracle is MOST interested in engaging in an intellectual debate with one of the esteemed members of KobeHQ. You have the solemn promise of the Oracle that He will conduct Himself with the highest degree of respect toward you when dealing with your rational (white) half. However, keep in mind that if you allow your, how shall we say, dark side to emerge and show its nappy head, you will find the Oracle to be not as forgiving and tolerant as AKOBADAGETH has been with you. That said, perhaps a few ground rules can be agreed upon before the outset. Both parties will be free to cut and paste portions of prior postings and provide informative facts gleaned from the Internet. Insults should be freely given and graciously received. By doing this we can both entertain and enlighten any gentle reader who happens to wander in. Any disputed scientific fact should be rebutted with scientific fact. Opinions are precisely that, opinions. The Oracle is not interested in Emotions. He is more interested in Facts, Logic, and Deductive Reasoning. We shall try our very best to limit the number of items or questions in our postings. This should eliminate the risk of having some issues left unresolved or that someone is “dodging an issue”. If you agree to these simple terms, we can proceed. As it was you who had invited the Oracle, perhaps it would be proper for you to begin.

Answered by Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com) from 24.238.33.109 on November 15, 2004.

This is you... why do you do this, Ravioli?

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 17, 2004.


I have dealt with alot of idiots on various websites. Though they are annoying and piss people off they have a right to be annoying, in my opinion. I also know that chatrooms aren't like regular coffee shops and we have moderators who can kick these annoying people out without reprocussion. Just let me pose this question to you; is it really that offensive? Do you actually take some shitty website like "anarchy2" so seriously that you would shit a brick about some milignant growth on tha anus of society? I learned this in elementary school, maybe you were absent. Their are alot of people in this world who will get on your nerves, but if you are as intelligent as you seem maybe you should come to the realization that it isn't that important. Or to speak in laman's terms;don't sweat the small stuff.

-- nunyabusiness (anemailadress@yahoo.com), November 17, 2004.


Actually Ack, I like when you "pick on me". At the end, I can show a dozen reasons why you lose the debate, and your answer is just to toot your own horn. Like I said, keep it coming. Tearing you to shreds keeps me amused in between classes.

Tator, I was at ATFF as well. I'll email you from my real addy.

-- Pasta (ilike@pasta.com), November 17, 2004.


Look who's talking...why it's AKO the L-O-S-E-R !

-- (.ZZ***@***Z.Z), November 17, 2004.

Okay, DT - my e-mail addy:

gameover3218@yahoo.com

-- Pasta (ravioli@spaghetti.com), November 17, 2004.


The "Oracle" is PASTA? I dont understand.....(shocked facial expression). I kinda took a liking to "Pasta". What to do....

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 17, 2004.

Kobe, the post that DT put didn't come from me. I have posted as the Oracle before, but not there. Trust me, "the Oracle" and I are two TOTALLY different people.

-- Pasta (pasta@noodle.com), November 17, 2004.


Okay. Actually, one of those "Oracles" seems to have a knack for serving AKO's ass to him, flaming and marinated in Whupass sauce. Hopefully, that one is you. Anyway, no problem. I like this board.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 17, 2004.

"one of those "Oracles" seems to have a knack for serving AKO's ass to him, flaming and marinated in Whupass sauce"

You noticed that too, huh?

;)

-- KOBE Pasta (pasta@kobehq.com), November 17, 2004.


Apparently, folks like to get riled up. If you don't like AKO's post don't read it. As long as he does not support child rape I could give a rats ass what he says. Sometimes his articles are dead on. There is a difference in cultures. Is it an excuse to hate somebody because their tribe commits 700 percent more murder than caucasions? That is for you to decide after all we let hate for the homos keep bush in for 4 more years. It is funny how religeon promotes hate. It is funny how the bible belt kept blacks from eating in the same restaurants as us. Today, the bible bangers coupled with the bought and paid for press exploited our fears and hates towards ass pirates. Hate is funny and hate is sad but it is interesting. I think the real oracle is a riot. Most of us feel that rabid rasist are 4 by 4 hillbillies listening to waylon Jennings while oracle puts on his superior intellect role- It's a riot it's comedy and it is a way to learn how hate and fear runs our lives. Kobe wants to kill all arabs and iraqis. He is entitled to his opinion but he supports the most hateful people on earth-THE ZIONIST. Menacham begin- a terrorist in Palestine blew up buildings killing women and children. The same for Rabin but he got killed because palestine was close to a reality. It is funny how heros like sharon who also killed women and children in Beirut and rammalah can slam Arafat for his legacy. Hypocracy is funny. Hate is funny. This world cannot survive.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@hatethewar.com), November 17, 2004.

KOBE has never said anything about killing Iraqis. We are anti- Islam, anti-Muslim, anti-anarchist, anti-Arab, and are against anything anti-American. The fact that Bush has been rightfully elected by the people with a healthy margin is a testament to the sentiment of MOST Americans today. We dont want to negotiate with savage Islamic Fundamentalists who cut our heads off and film them for viewing (go to Ogrish.com to see a few).

What is it that YOU believe? If it has anything to do with dismantling the government, or replacing it with some other system (communism, socialism, anarchism), then you are also my enemy. Otherwise, a little healthy dissent is as American as Apple Pie. I am a man of my convictions. Also, the thiny veiled statement you made regarding blacks committing over "700%" more murders than whites is misleading. What about all of the World Wars, Vietnam, Korea, Desert Storm (hell, just add together EVERY war ever fought). Who started/sanctioned them? CAUCASIANS. Not Asians, not blacks, not Hispanics, but WHITES. Dont try to feed me that bullshit, Brasky.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 17, 2004.


SBM,

Anti-Arab? Really? If you want to be anti-Islam, that's your choice, you're allowed to disagree with anything you see fit. But anti-arab? Just because someone is arab doesn't necessarily mean that they're a muslim. In fact, I know quite a few people of arab descent who aren't muslim. I can't hate someone just for their ethnic background. It doesn't work like that for me. If you can explain your point a little more thoroughly however, I'd be really interested to hear it.

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), November 17, 2004.


"What is it that YOU believe? If it has anything to do with dismantling the government, or replacing it with some other system (communism, socialism, anarchism), then you are also my enemy. Otherwise, a little healthy dissent is as American as Apple Pie."

Yep, you have the right to dissent, as long as it agrees with KOBE. If you think the current system is wrong, he will see to it that your ass lands in jail faster than you can say "sedition". The system sucks. Does that mean I want a violent revolution? No. I am for nonviolent protest and democratic change. But do I want to replace the current system? YOU BET YOUR ASS I DO.

You are the most unamerican person I have ever met, and YOU are my enemy.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), November 17, 2004.


First to U Must Feers Me, you said this:

"Anti-Arab? Really? If you want to be anti-Islam, that's your choice, you're allowed to disagree with anything you see fit. But anti-arab? Just because someone is arab doesn't necessarily mean that they're a muslim."

Let me clarify that. I mean specifically Saudi Arabia (there is no other country one can be from and be called an "Arab". The Saudis are our enemies, but nobody is talking about it yet. It is the birthplace of Islam. It is one of the richest countries in the world, yet has the most dismal Human Rights policies in the world. It is run by "emirates" whose leaders are not elected, and there are no terms of office. Women are not allowed to drive or vote (what vote?). Yes, I am anti-Arab. That is not the same as being of Arab descent. I have nothing against Arab-Americans (unless they are Muslim). I love people who love each other as people. Not love some oppressive moon god called Allah who demands that all submit or die.

To Anti-Bush, you said:

"Yep, you have the right to dissent, as long as it agrees with KOBE. If you think the current system is wrong, he will see to it that your ass lands in jail faster than you can say "sedition".

Uh...you are pretty much correct. But you dont have to agree with KOBE, just agree with America and agree to give your country (who protected you with mandatory vaccines, which shielded you from invading forces, and whose example many emerging countries try to emulate). If you dont like America, you have many Third World and communist/socialist nations smattered about who would be glad to have you. When you start accumulating wealth and making money and raising a family, you will change your tune. GUARANTEED.

One of the freedoms you have is the freedom to leave. There are many countries where that freedom does not exist.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 17, 2004.


How can you be so against Saudi Arabia yet love America so much. Saudi accounts for something like 20% of the US ecconomy. BushCheney&Co are deep in the Saudi Governments pockets. And they also blamed Iraq for 911 even though most of the hijackers where Saudi and also Bin Laden is a Saudi too. Explain Bushies side on this one please, Mr. "America is always right" KOBE!

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 17, 2004.

You are damn right I want a new government. I want democracy. I want free airwaves. I want seperation of church and state. I want my civil liberties. I want what those slave owners wanted to give us. A government by the people for the people. We have a government run by the corporations. The zionist press have brainwashed us like the sheep we are. Since Kennedy got killed, we have not had a government for the people. Kennedy was a great leader and so was IKE.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@newgovernment.com), November 18, 2004.

I concur with U msut feers me. AKO has been breaking all of the rules and is contiuously getting his ass handed back to IT, yet the dumbass says he wins. Ban the dumb fuck!!!

-- (Pissed @ AKO's idiocy.com), November 18, 2004.

To Dick Tator, Esteemed Moderator of this forum: Greetings from the Oracle. On November 17, 2004 you stated: “I am against Government.” This was quickly followed by: “I delete illegal shit that people have a tendency to put on here sometimes and I sent the IPs to the FBI.”

Is it just the Oracle but do any other readers find some material in your postings at all hypocritical? You claim to abhor government, yet immediately run to one of its agencies for assistance when it suits your needs.

If you do not wish to be viewed as hypocritical, could you provide us with an adequate explanation that unites these two seemingly divergent points of view into a seamless philosophy?

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 18, 2004.


To Bill Brasky: Greetings from the Oracle. Perhaps it is now YOUR turn to explain the hypocrisy of your actions. A cursory glance at your posting dated November 17, 2004 reveals that you apparently have, how shall we say, a less than positive view upon the so-called racists. You engage in this behavior merely on the premise that they do not think the way you do. In creating this hierarchy, you have shown the gentle readers that you truly do not believe in equality. If you still maintain your belief in equality, how do explain your hierarchy?

One of the more curious sidelights is that you are not reprimanded for believing some people are “better” than others, but, in fact, are lauded by your peers. When the Oracle is accused of the very same behavior, He is severely admonished. Again, an answer is required to explain how the same set of circumstances is rewarded in one case and punished in the next.

You had brought up another hypocritical point the Oracle has previously expounded upon in prior postings. In your same message you felt it was wrong for some to deny the Negro from enjoying a fine meal at the same restaurant as the whites. One look at the original entry on this board confirms that some wish to deny others of expressing a viewpoint. What is the commonality you ask? The answer is as simple as your mind. The right of free association. For some inexplicable reason some posters feel it is right and proper to have others who are different than themselves be removed from their sight. In other words, they wish to deny our presence, and for that they feel all good about themselves. In the South, the whites were expressing the same sentiment of free association. They did not want to associate themselves with the black man.

The Oracle finds it curious that those who oppose Him fully expect Him to allow any nose picking Negro to sit next to Him and slurp his soup. You expect the Oracle to be tolerant and understanding. You feel He is wrong if He is not. You cannot fathom how some people can so heartless as to deny the Negro anything he wants. At the same time, you feel you are doing no wrong by banning certain individuals merely over an opinion that differs from yours. If you truly believe in tolerance and understanding the Oracle would enjoy learning how you are magically exempt from practicing what you preach.

The point the Oracle is desperately trying show you by holding a mirror for you to see your own hypocrisy, is that in Reality, we are very much more alike than you would like us to be. We only differ on one small detail. Again, the Oracle is only trying to have you see yourselves as others see you. You have an inconsistent philosophy. You condemn another and applaud yourselves for the same infraction. Perhaps you now realize you are not as noble a person as you once thought you were.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 18, 2004.


"The Oracle finds it curious that those who oppose Him fully expect Him to allow any nose picking Negro to sit next to Him and slurp his soup. You expect the Oracle to be tolerant and understanding. You feel He is wrong if He is not. You cannot fathom how some people can so heartless as to deny the Negro anything he wants."

**chuckle**

You do not have the ability to deny the Negro anything. I would certainly feel apprehension if any nose-picking individual of ANY race were to sit next to me. Fortunately, my socioeconomic status requires that I adhere to a set of basic standards which would prevent such an unlikely situation. If one lacks social graces and personal refinement, it may be considered distasteful, but is hardly evidence of inferiority. Furthermore, those deficiencies may present themselves in persons from ANY race, so your race-based drivel is meaningless and irrelevant. Please explain the "wigger" phenomena for the gentle readers. Does your race-based poppycock allow for a white man who is 100% WHITE, yet fits the "nigger" sterotype almost exactly? Does the fact that such individuals have consciously chosen to imitate and emulate all speech and mannerisms of ghetto blacks (while rejecting traditionally white social mannerisms), make them no longer white? Is that white person now to be considered inferior?

You will lose this argument no matter how you approach it. There is no CREDIBLE evidence to support your theories, therefore it is pointless for you to continue your current line of reasoning.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004.


To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. The Oracle would be pleased to expound on the topic of “wiggers”.

It is the sad fact of today that some white youths engage in this behavior. You know as well as the Oracle their young lives have been destroyed. You also know that their future is bleak unless they immediately renounce the black lifestyle and return to being the apple-cheeked offspring their parents once knew.

This “wigger” phenomenon appears to be confined to those young people who are either not sophisticated enough to realize the importance of being white, are being rebellious toward their parents, or are psychologically damaged. Thankfully, this “wigger” phase in a person’s development does not remain with him throughout his life. The poor unfortunate who thought he was being rebellious and “cool” learns that being a Negro is not all it was advertised to be. Even the dullest and misguided of white youths soon realize the error of their ways. By the time they learn, “Black is Whack” the damage is done and cannot be fully remediated. If you doubt the truthfulness of My words, ask yourself, how many successful forty-year old plus “wiggers” are you aware of?

You posed the question, “Is that white person now to be considered inferior?” Of course not! While we may have lost this individual to the dark side for a while, they always return. At no time can a white man, even if he temporarily acts black, can be considered unequal to another white man. The Oracle is surprised you can even entertain such thoughts. The fact remains they are still our beloved white children whether or not they behave as right thinking white people believe they should.

It should be noted that as the Oracle had earlier stated that even a psychologically damaged white person has enough sense to eventually quit the business of blackness. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of the true Negro. The true Negro never learns of his mistakes and continues his walk through life down the path of destruction. They remain acting like Negroes for the remainder of their miserable lives.

The Oracle is curious as to why you even broached the subject in the first place. If you were a true adherent of racial equality, it should not matter if a white becomes black. After all, according to you and your ilk, we are all the same. A equals B. If A does in fact equal B, then the white person who temporarily opts for the black experience should not be adversely affected by it. However, we both are aware of the success rate for these individuals later on in life. If merely acting like a Negro is detrimental, can you imagine the harm done by actually being one?

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 18, 2004.


To Dick Tator, Esteemed Moderator of this forum: Greetings from the Oracle. On November 17, 2004 you stated: “I am against Government.” This was quickly followed by: “I delete illegal shit that people have a tendency to put on here sometimes and I sent the IPs to the FBI.” Is it just the Oracle but do any other readers find some material in your postings at all hypocritical? You claim to abhor government, yet immediately run to one of its agencies for assistance when it suits your needs. If you do not wish to be viewed as hypocritical, could you provide us with an adequate explanation that unites these two seemingly divergent points of view into a seamless philosophy?

Well you see, for now I am in their world. I am in their reality. And therefore I have to play their little game. If I have people posting kiddy on here then they will shut me down. And then we cant get the message out. Anarchy isnt about No Law. Anarchy is about No Government. It is about people working togather for a common good and not for some guy in a round room. True Anarchist believe in murder, theft, fraud, and rape laws. But not to be enforced by the State. To be enforced by everyone. Think of it as a Super Neighborhood Watch.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 18, 2004.


To the honorable Oracle, I do not subscribe to anyone's slant on racism. I will read without predjiduce anything written by anyone. I attack the zionist press regularly and that just pushes a negative buzzer for folks like anit-bush. I agree with alot of what anti-bush writes but when it comes to race discussion he has an automatic political responce formed from the white self loathing politics of the mid 60's.If all races and religeons prescribed to that same boundry I would not have any problem. I have checked out the crime rates for blacks on the DOJ sites. I have checked out the murder rates for other countries, however, if 50 blacks per 100,000 are going to commit murder this year that does mean 99,950 blacks are not going to commit murder THIS year. It is an alarming statistic but it still shows that a majority of blacks want what whites want, a stable life. I am appalled by the blacks having children and not supporting them. For a lot of blacks having children is no more special than eating food and having a turd come out of their ass. This sounds racist doesn't it? The statistics of unsupported black children back this up. Sure whites do the same but no where near the epedemic proportions of the blacks. Will I hate all blacks for this? No. Will I treat the blacks that do support their children any better than a white who does the same? No. If blacks have an IQ 15 points lower than the average white I have compassion for them but will not use it as an excuse for rationalizing their higher crime and higher bastard children rates. As far as having to eat in a restaurant next to an unclean person, I have no tolerance for it. Will I continue to sit next to a black person who reeks just to prove I am tolerant of the black race? No way. My Grandfather was in the KKK in the 20's and 30's. My father was a Massachusetts liberal. I won't lose any sleep over either of them. It was pretty easy being a liberal in the 70's since their were no black families in the town I was brought up in.My father is like anti-bush. He assails the white racism but rationalizes the black racism.

-- Bill Brasky (billbrasky@rainbowcoalition.com), November 20, 2004.

I dont think Anti rationalizes Black racism.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 20, 2004.

Once again, the "Oracle" failes to convince.

"The Oracle is curious as to why you even broached the subject in the first place. If you were a true adherent of racial equality, it should not matter if a white becomes black. After all, according to you and your ilk, we are all the same. A equals B. If A does in fact equal B, then the white person who temporarily opts for the black experience should not be adversely affected by it. However, we both are aware of the success rate for these individuals later on in life. If merely acting like a Negro is detrimental, can you imagine the harm done by actually being one?"

One cannot change their race. They can only change their culture. The "wigger" phenomena is caused by the appeal of the "coolness" of ghetto rap culture that today's white, Asian, Hispanic and black kids want to identify with. Personally, I find nothing cool about droopy clothes, having pierced ears (as a guy), and grabbing my dick in public. I fond nothing cool about rap "music" which is musical butchery created from music made by REAL musicians. A white cannot become black.

My question is: How do you define the Negro? Do you assume that all negroes are raised in a ghetto/poor environment and speak Ebonics? WRONG (as usual). I was raised in an upper middle class environment (yes, Im half white, but there were black families in our neighborhood who were both negro spouses). I feel fortunate to have been brought up in such an environment, and having had the things many white children did not, and having BOTH parents (both college graduates). Why is it that many "wiggers" cannot speak proper English? Do you propose that AKOBADAGETH, with his utter lack of higher education and obviously lower-class socio-economic status is somehow "superior" to me SIMPLY because he is white? I find that amusing.

No, being white is simply not enough anymore. You had better be QUALIFIED to belong to the Ruling Class, because it is no longer a white-only club. Its about the haves and the have nots. I have plenty.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 22, 2004.


Ok Kobe if you are rich enough to be a republican that is cool. I think you are still a bit selfish but if you have alot of money than I can see that you have a dillema as far as voting. Your party gets a lot of votes from the ignorant ppl who are close to the edge. Who is going to help these people when their job is gone, house repossesed and your kids are getting thin? The democrats. Jesus is a democrat I swear.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@jewcensor.com), November 24, 2004.

FUCK THAT! Jesus was a revolutionary, man. He was like "fuck the system, the establishment tells you that they are doing God's work, but really they're just taking your money and screwing you over while your kids starve" (although a little more eloquently, I'm sure). If Jesus were alive today, he'd be appaled at our government. He'd be wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt and have a copy of "Steal This Book" on his shelf.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), November 24, 2004.

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