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Proof, if any was still needed, of the nature of opposition to the President.

-- Hmmm (antibush@mightbe.gay), July 31, 2004

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Of course gay people oppose the President. He's trying to use the constitution to advance a political agenda at the expense of their rights. I'd hate him too if I were gay.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), July 31, 2004.

Obviously you don't know the Constitution very well. NOWHERE does it say that 'Congress will not abridge the right to indulge in anal intercouse and masterbation'.

-- Patriot (straight@saveamericanfamilies.com), August 01, 2004.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THOMAS JEFFERSON AND THE REST OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD BE FOR HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS?I MEAN MOST OF THEM WHERE VERY RELIGOUS PEOPLE AND THOMAS JEFFERESON WROTE A LETTER TO A BAPTIST DECON EXPLAINING THAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT WAS SO THE GOVERNMENT WOULDNT BAN RELIGIONS IT DID NOT BEAN THAT THE BAPTIST CHURCH COULD NO WORK INSIDE OR WITH THE GOVERNMENT. TO GET BACK TO HOMOSEXUALITY DO YOU THINK A MAN SUPPORTING CHRISTIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THE GOVERNMENT INTENDED FOR THE LAWS TO PROTECT HOMOSEXUALS?

HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT A SEPERATE GROUP. THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM EITHER A. PERVERSE MINDS OR B. PEOPLE WITH ANIT-SOCIAL DISORDERS. HOMOSEXUALITY WAS THOUGHT TO BE A MENTAL ILLNESS FOR YEARS UNTIL UPSET FAGGOTS UNITED AND THE GOVERNMENT MADE THE SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL COMMUNITY STOP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THE MENTALLY IMPARED HOMOSEXUALS.

THESE HOMOSEXUALS LOSE NO RIGHT AT ALL. THEY ARE JUST NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN A UNION THAT IS TRADTIONALLY AND RELIGIOUSLY FOR A WOMAN AND A MAN ONLY.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO AS LEVITICUS TELLS US KILL THEM AND LET THEIR BLOOD BE ON THEIR HEADS.

LOL HOW IS THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO ADVERTISE HOMOSEXUALITY AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE WED AND HAVE MARRIED PEOPLES RIGHTS TAKING ANYTHING FROM THEM?

-- SWORDSWASTIKA (lol@lol.com), August 01, 2004.


"Obviously you don't know the Constitution very well. NOWHERE does it say that 'Congress will not abridge the right to indulge in anal intercouse and masterbation'."

How do you manage to breathe? The point is that the consitution DOESN'T give Congress the authority to abridge on that. Bush is attempting to manipulate the constitution for his own political gain. The Constitution is supposed to grant freedoms, not take them away.

Swastika,

Is there any reason you can't move your finger seven sixteenths of an inch and turn off the caps lock key? There's no need to advertise the fact that you're an idiot, your posts already do a fine job of that. The caps lock is overkill.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 01, 2004.


AMAZING HOW YOU REFUSED TO POINT OUT WHERE MY POST IS WRONG! I PICKED THE CAPS LOCK KEY THING BECAUSE OF HOW ANGERY IT MAKES EVERYONE IN GENERAL. JUST LOOK BACK AT PREVIOUS ARGUEMENTS WITH AKOBADAGETH, YOUR MASTER.

-- SWORDSWASTIKA (LOL@LOL.COM), August 01, 2004.


Oh yeah, that AKO sure was a master debator!

"DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THOMAS JEFFERSON AND THE REST OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD BE FOR HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS?I MEAN MOST OF THEM WHERE VERY RELIGOUS PEOPLE AND THOMAS JEFFERESON WROTE A LETTER TO A BAPTIST DECON EXPLAINING THAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT WAS SO THE GOVERNMENT WOULDNT BAN RELIGIONS IT DID NOT BEAN THAT THE BAPTIST CHURCH COULD NO WORK INSIDE OR WITH THE GOVERNMENT. TO GET BACK TO HOMOSEXUALITY DO YOU THINK A MAN SUPPORTING CHRISTIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THE GOVERNMENT INTENDED FOR THE LAWS TO PROTECT HOMOSEXUALS?"

Most of the founding fathers were deists or agnostics. Few belonged to an organized religion. Jefferson beleived in giving more power to the states. There is no way in hell he would have supported the federal government in enforcing the morality of one religion on a nation of millions.

"HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT A SEPERATE GROUP. THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM EITHER A. PERVERSE MINDS OR B. PEOPLE WITH ANIT-SOCIAL DISORDERS. HOMOSEXUALITY WAS THOUGHT TO BE A MENTAL ILLNESS FOR YEARS UNTIL UPSET FAGGOTS UNITED AND THE GOVERNMENT MADE THE SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL COMMUNITY STOP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THE MENTALLY IMPARED HOMOSEXUALS."

Fix them? If a porn star walked past you and bent over in a short skirt, is there some way the attraction you feel towards her could be fixed? Even if they could, these people don;t want to be fixed. They want you to leave them the hell alone. You don't like what they are doing, you don't have to watch. What they do behind closed doors is none of your buisiness.

"THESE HOMOSEXUALS LOSE NO RIGHT AT ALL. THEY ARE JUST NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN A UNION THAT IS TRADTIONALLY AND RELIGIOUSLY FOR A WOMAN AND A MAN ONLY."

RELIGIOUSLY. It's your religion. Why should you enforce it on them? You are forcing your personal beleifs on others. How does it hurt you if two consenting adults want to go down to the courthouse and get married? How does that interfere with your persuit of life, liberty, or happiness? How does that affect your life?

" BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO AS LEVITICUS TELLS US KILL THEM AND LET THEIR BLOOD BE ON THEIR HEADS."

Glad to see I'm talking to a rational person.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 02, 2004.


I LIKE THE DEMOCRATS. I HATE BUSH. ALL OF YOU HAD BETTER VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS OR THE RICH ARE GOING TO SCREW WITH YOU POOR PEOPLE AGAIN. UNLESS YOU A RICH, REPUBLICANS DO NOT HAVE YOUR INTEREST AT HEART. I AM VERY, VERY SMART SO JUST DO WHAT I TELL YOU AND EVERYTHING I SAY WILL BE PROVED TRUE. MAYBE SOME OF YOU COULD PERSONALLY WELCOME ME TO THE BOARD? RR

-- RICKY RANGER (RICKYRANGER@AOL.COM), August 02, 2004.

"Most of the founding fathers were deists or agnostics. Few belonged to an organized religion. Jefferson beleived in giving more power to the states. There is no way in hell he would have supported the federal government in enforcing the morality of one religion on a nation of millions. "

Not true infact it is so far from truth i dont know where to start. Lets take this approach.... if they had not been rightwing christians why would states started as extreme right wing christian colonies have joined the Union?

"Fix them? If a porn star walked past you and bent over in a short skirt, is there some way the attraction you feel towards her could be fixed? Even if they could, these people don;t want to be fixed. They want you to leave them the hell alone. You don't like what they are doing, you don't have to watch. What they do behind closed doors is none of your buisiness. "

First off unlike you I am not a dog! I have control over my sexual feelings. I would never sleep with any porn star. Furthermore the issue isnt them being gay it is they want to flaunt it. Why do me and my family have to know they suck cock? What about my kids rights to not have to see 2 men or 2 women kiss? Furthermore it is a downfall of western civiliztion. ROME AUSTRIA RUSSIA all fall because of sexual preversion in their administration.

"RELIGIOUSLY. It's your religion. Why should you enforce it on them? You are forcing your personal beleifs on others. How does it hurt you if two consenting adults want to go down to the courthouse and get married? How does that interfere with your persuit of life, liberty, or happiness? How does that affect your life? "

it makes the entire process cheap! it makes it a joke. when my child asks why people even get married it makes me mad because i know at 7 he learned that at school.... tanks you cock sucker.

"Glad to see I'm talking to a rational person."

If most VD and other disease is in a homosexual population doesnt that make them a threat? Kill Homosexuals you will see AIDs in the US take a dive. Hey hommie you on the DL?

" I LIKE THE DEMOCRATS. I HATE BUSH. ALL OF YOU HAD BETTER VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS OR THE RICH ARE GOING TO SCREW WITH YOU POOR PEOPLE AGAIN. UNLESS YOU A RICH, REPUBLICANS DO NOT HAVE YOUR INTEREST AT HEART. I AM VERY, VERY SMART SO JUST DO WHAT I TELL YOU AND EVERYTHING I SAY WILL BE PROVED TRUE. MAYBE SOME OF YOU COULD PERSONALLY WELCOME ME TO THE BOARD? RR "

Rickey Ranger lets not get into this. LOL Kerry has no spine look at him. 1010 word speach he says judge me on my record he sums his record up in 76 words what a joke. he didnt vote in 2/3 of the votes anyone else in a normal perfession would be fired. he begins the convention with a fake film made documentery style. in the film it showed him doing something he had never done lol. also one more thing 3 purple hearts 1 was a bullet dinging off a plate of metal the other 2 where friendly fire...... aparently the soliders on our side wanted him dead lol.

-- SWORDSWASTIKA (lol@lol.com), August 02, 2004.


"Lets take this approach.... if they had not been rightwing christians why would states started as extreme right wing christian colonies have joined the Union?"

Because they wanted freedom for their right-wing churches to grow without interference from the English crown. Not because they wanted an endorsement from the American government.

"First off unlike you I am not a dog! I have control over my sexual feelings. I would never sleep with any porn star. Furthermore the issue isnt them being gay it is they want to flaunt it. Why do me and my family have to know they suck cock?"

A lot of people are offended by public displays of affection. Straight people flaunt it too. If you have a problem with two people flaunting in public you should take it up with them.

"What about my kids rights to not have to see 2 men or 2 women kiss?"

Hey, I've got no qualms about seeing two women kiss...but that's a topic for another discussion.

I realize they show this on TV a lot. If you don't want your kids to see it, change the channel. Seems pretty simple to me.

"ROME AUSTRIA RUSSIA all fall because of sexual preversion in their administration."

Really? Silly me, I thought Rome fell because of a combination of economic stagnation, barbaian invasion, rampant inflation, and weak leadership. Austria fell because they lost World War I, and Russia fell because the peasants got tired of being slaves to the aristocracy.

I wasn't aware that Austria or Russia had been prone to "sexual perversion"...

"it makes the entire process cheap! it makes it a joke. when my child asks why people even get married it makes me mad because i know at 7 he learned that at school.... tanks you cock sucker."

Oh yeah, because two gey people who love each other getting married really cheapens the process more than two straight people getting wasted and getting married by an Elvis impersonator in Vegas, right?

It cheapens marriage IN YOUR OPINION. You shouldn't force that opinion on an entire nation.

"If most VD and other disease is in a homosexual population doesnt that make them a threat? Kill Homosexuals you will see AIDs in the US take a dive."

OR you could opt to not be a genocidal maniac and instead help get the youth of America informed about AIDS and VD prevention...people with AIDS are only a threat if you choose to have sex with them. Educate your children about it. Make sure they are safe. That's the first step.

Swastika, you seem like a very angry, bitter individual. Now I've seen a lot of them, but what disturbs me in particular is the fact that you have children. You've just got to curb this anger. Think of your children. I would not want to be raised by someone who sees no shame in using the word "swastika" in his internet handle and actualy sees beheading several million people as a viable solution to the AIDS epidemic.

I pray for your children.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 02, 2004.


It cheapens marriage IN YOUR OPINION. You shouldn't force that opinion on an entire nation.

Up until recently NO nation recognized homosexual "marriage". It's a perversion of a real marriage. Homosexual "marriage" IS a perfect example of a disgruntled minority forcing their views through an out of balance court system on an unwilling majority, not the other way around. Let's go back to how things were before the black-robed retards in Mass. got together and tried to further destroy our great nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.

Bazooka Joe

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 02, 2004.



Look, I'd be fine with not calling it marriage at all. Just call it a civil union. Two gays want to go down to the courthouse and get hitched, what's the problem? Think about it this way: would you rather have the gay community engaging in the dangerous promiscuity it currently engages in, or encourage committed monogamous relationships? Seems to me that would cut down on the AIDS spread qiute a bit. It might even be more effective than lobbing off all the gay people's heads (as Swastiak suggested), since all that AIDS- infected blood would get all over the place.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 02, 2004.

Hey, I've got no qualms about seeing two women kiss...but that's a topic for another discussion.

lol 1 thing Janet Reno and ummmmmmm fuck any dyke I see here and town kissing is enough to make me never want to see a woman again.

"Really? Silly me, I thought Rome fell because of a combination of economic stagnation, barbaian invasion, rampant inflation, and weak leadership. Austria fell because they lost World War I, and Russia fell because the peasants got tired of being slaves to the aristocracy.

I wasn't aware that Austria or Russia had been prone to "sexual perversion"... "

Look at rome the worst leader most violent where flamming homosexuals Nero married 2 men lol and in 1 marriage he was the wife. they where to busy loving themselves and their own power to realize rome had been growing so fast that all she had was enemies...... kinda like america.

an austiran princess in a diary (i saw this on the history channel some show called WW1 in color) said something like our government is done because everyone lusts while ignoring austria's gorwing weakness. so i will have to let him come in and defend himself on that not.

"Oh yeah, because two gey people who love each other getting married really cheapens the process more than two straight people getting wasted and getting married by an Elvis impersonator in Vegas, right? "

oh yea because every white person has gotten married under those sercumstances i know thats my dream.........

"OR you could opt to not be a genocidal maniac and instead help get the youth of America informed about AIDS and VD prevention...people with AIDS are only a threat if you choose to have sex with them. Educate your children about it. Make sure they are safe. That's the first step. "

why not simply come out and say lustfilled acts are wrong and shouldnt be done pariod? say hey kids dont FUCK until your married or with the person you will be married to.

"Swastika, you seem like a very angry, bitter individual. Now I've seen a lot of them, but what disturbs me in particular is the fact that you have children. You've just got to curb this anger. Think of your children. I would not want to be raised by someone who sees no shame in using the word "swastika" in his internet handle and actualy sees beheading several million people as a viable solution to the AIDS epidemic.

I pray for your children. "

people online tend to be more hardline then in real life. unlike me i just come out and throw it all out there how i talk here is how i talk in the real world. so to judge his ummmmm family life or his overall character on what you say here could be a tad bit premature.

Bazoka: I agree. 1 solution to the justice system is make them get slected but for only like 7 years then kick them out and bring in new ones. i say 7 years lol gods number.... anyway or we could instead of having a judge make a decsion pick 12 people at random from all over the country and see what they decide.

"Look, I'd be fine with not calling it marriage at all. Just call it a civil union. Two gays want to go down to the courthouse and get hitched, what's the problem? Think about it this way: would you rather have the gay community engaging in the dangerous promiscuity it currently engages in, or encourage committed monogamous relationships? Seems to me that would cut down on the AIDS spread qiute a bit. It might even be more effective than lobbing off all the gay people's heads (as Swastiak suggested), since all that AIDS- infected blood would get all over the place. "

In my phycology class (yes i take way more classes then i have to) they told us that the average homosexual male will pick 1 partner or boyfriend but still have sex iwth up to 500 men in his life time. right wing people tend to not like homosexuality for that reason mainly and the fact that they are against most lustfilled activities.

Remember folks I am not rightwing i am a facist i belong to Libertarian National Socialist Green Party.... or the 3rd wing. So when you go to crack on me for what I have said just dont call me GOP pig or something to that effect.

-- FacistCarter (Pike159@aol.com), August 03, 2004.


"lol 1 thing Janet Reno and ummmmmmm fuck any dyke I see here and town kissing is enough to make me never want to see a woman again."

Haha. Pretty good point. There's girl-on-girl and then there's just nasty shit. Anything involving Janet Reno definitely falls into the latter category.

Did you ever see the man show episode where Jinny Kimmel goes up to women at a lesbian rights rally and asks them if they would have sex with Rosie O'Donnell? Pretty funny stuff.

"Look at rome the worst leader most violent where flamming homosexuals Nero married 2 men lol and in 1 marriage he was the wife. they where to busy loving themselves and their own power to realize rome had been growing so fast that all she had was enemies...... kinda like america."

Nero's homsexuality wasn't as big of a problem as his general insanity. He was a fucked up guy in all theaters, face it. Not as bad as Caligula. He had his horse proclaimed a Senator. I beleive he also copulated with it on occasion. But both these guys reigned before Rome even began it's decline. After them were the four Good Emperors, and that was the Golden Age of Imperial Rome, for christ's sake. Rome didn't start to decline until after Marcus Aurelius died, and he was a century or two after Nero.

"an austiran princess in a diary (i saw this on the history channel some show called WW1 in color) said something like our government is done because everyone lusts while ignoring austria's gorwing weakness. so i will have to let him come in and defend himself on that not."

Well, a Princess wrote it in her diary! That solves that, then! Can't argue with a Princess!

"oh yea because every white person has gotten married under those sercumstances i know thats my dream........."

I didn't say that. My point was that straight people do their part to cheapen marriage too. Should it be illegal to get married in Vegas? After all, it cheapens marriage. Should Jennifer Lopez be arrested? After all, she's been married like four times already. What kind of message is that sending to our children?

"why not simply come out and say lustfilled acts are wrong and shouldnt be done pariod? say hey kids dont FUCK until your married or with the person you will be married to."

What are you proposing? Outlaw premarital sex? As bad of an idea as promiscuity is, it is simply not the government's right to determine what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

"In my phycology class (yes i take way more classes then i have to) they told us that the average homosexual male will pick 1 partner or boyfriend but still have sex iwth up to 500 men in his life time. right wing people tend to not like homosexuality for that reason mainly and the fact that they are against most lustfilled activities."

Then our battle should be with promiscuity, not with homosexuality in and of itself.

"Remember folks I am not rightwing i am a facist i belong to Libertarian National Socialist Green Party.... or the 3rd wing."

I don't think you could jam more contradictions into the name of a political party if you tried!

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 03, 2004.


As bad of an idea as promiscuity is, it is simply not the government's right to determine what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

I would agree with this 100% if you said the government had no obligation to pay for any aids treatment for anyone. Why should the public be held accountable for their behavior if they themselves aren't?

Bazooka Joe

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 03, 2004.


Damn, dude. That's cold. There are people suffering and dying from AIDS. If there are people in our country who are suffering and dying it is our duty to help them. I do think, however, that we should spend more money on AIDS prevention, whether that means funding education about AIDS and other STD's in our schools, advertising, ect. The Republican Party has this attitude towards anyone who makes a mistake in this country...like "haha, we told you so"...such an unchristian attitude for a Party that claims to support Christian values...somebody brought up the "Republican Contract With America" in another thread, and there was one point that really struck me as just plain cold. It was denying welfare to teenage mothers. Refusing help to the people who quite often need it the most...and punishing the Child for the mistake of the mother...it's sick and it's wrong. Our system shouldn't be oriented around punishment. It just doesn't get us anywhere.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 03, 2004.


i will attempt to answer that tomorrow it is 12:59 am i am to tired to run around in circles. contridictions..... try reading about them on www.nazi.org i am unlike any nazi the jews taught you about.

-- Carter (Pike159@aol.com), August 04, 2004.

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