Employee Timetable Question

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The SAL 1957 Tampa Sub-Division Employee Timetable refers to the "Tampa Telegraph Office". Please tell me exactly where it was located. Also the definition of Rule 83, 83-A, 98, and 98-A. Thank you!

-- Carey Stevens (ca.stevens@worldnet.att.net), May 08, 2002


also this is where the ringling brothers train is kept durring off season, covered grain hoppers can usually be found here, as was mentioned, from canada usually. Its amazing the ammount this area has changed in the last 20 years, especially the area that is now harbor island. Interesting most of the no trespassing signs there still say Property of SCL RR.

-- troy nolen (tnolen12@tampabay.rr.com), May 09, 2002.

Carey, if I'm not mistaken, the location of the Tampa Telegraph Office would have been at the Old Tampa Yard Office, off Twiggs St and south of the TUS. SAL freight yard was located there before they build the railyard at Yeoman, where current operations are located. The actual building would be directly under the Kennedy Blvd overpass, now boarded up...BTW this old railyard is now prime property, I wonder when CSX will unload it?? Rumor has it the only customer now in the area is ConAgra Milling, it still gets quite a few carloads of Canadian Winter Wheat every year. It really keeps us busy...

-- Walt Rogers (wjriii@verizon.net), May 09, 2002.

Rule 83 basically states that a train will not leave its initial terminal or end of double track until it ascertains whether or not superior trains have arrived or left. In CTC territory, the superiority of trains is superceded by signal indications, so Rule 83 won't apply. But in other than CTC territory, inferior trains move with respect to superior trains. In most instances, the dispatcher will transmit a "meet" order designating where the inferior train will meet the superior train. Here's the important point -- the dispatcher may elect to have the inferior train wait at the initial station for the superior train to arrive and issue NO orders. He depends on the conductor to check the register book to determine whether any superior trains have NOT arrived and to have his train remain at the initial station until they do.

Going off duty at 3:00 AM, the dispatcher advised me that he would NOT issue any order for a southbound extra going on duty at 7:00 AM. When the 1st trick operator came on duty, he (and the dispatcher)cleared the extra south with NO orders on a northbound 2nd class train (superior by class). The extra left the initial terminal and had proceeded 14 miles and was occupying the main line for 25 minutes on the time of NO. 64 before the conductor realized he wasn't authroized to be out there. The extra got a flag out, there was no head end collision, but the conductor and engineer spent 30 days on the street. Maybe this example will help you understand Rule 83.

-- Harry Bundy (Y6B@aol.com), May 08, 2002.

sorry, this is not on topic, however i would love a photocopy of that timetable, would pay you for it, if interested in doing this for me, email me!

-- troy nolen (tnolen12@tampabay.rr.com), May 08, 2002.

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