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Well excuse me !!! I must apologize to the group. I posted a comment about Sports Afield magazine going out of business, and now for the last few days a lot of folks are in an uproar about animal rights and welfare and other such hullaboo.

Pardon me while I munch on animal crackers and milk while typing this.

Oh Wait!!! I ate an animal cracker!! Oh no, now I can't possible be a.............well enough said.

scheezzzzzzzz give me a break. Have a nice day.

Gene

-- gene ward (gward34847@aol.com), April 24, 2002

Answers

"I am not a vegetarian because I love animals, I am a vegetarian because I hate plants." A. Whitney Brown

-- paul (primrose@centex.net), April 24, 2002.

there are some topics that cause great discussion,,, so,, why do you think your SA posts, started something on animal rights,or how much BBQ suace to add to exotic critters?

-- Stan (sopal@net-pert.com), April 24, 2002.

Gene, I was thinking the same thing! Holey shomley, folks around here can get riled up about just about anything lately! Makes a person scared to death to ask how to make a compost pile...LOL!!

I did want to point out something in all that mess. I think Shannon is a great example of how you can disagree, tell it like it is without mincing words, and still get your point across without being rude, disrespectful or degrading. Even after being attacked (and quite an attack from one poster..shesh!), she still maintained a respectful position to those disagreeing with her. Thanks, Shannon!

-- Karen (mountains_mama2@hotmail.com), April 24, 2002.


If you thought that was something just wait until you report on the the magazine "Gay Vegetarian" LOL!

-- Gary (burnett_gary@msn.com), April 24, 2002.

I agree with Karen above, I have read Shannon's posts and answers on animal rescue and care, and have learned lots of information from them. I am a hunter, but admire her sticking to her beliefs; hey, this is America, WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS. No reason to get nasty about it.

Yes gene, it was pretty strange how this blossomed into what it became. I'm going to try and have a nice day.

-- j.r. guerra in s. tx. (jrguerra@boultinghousesimpson.com), April 24, 2002.



I used to have a bumper sticker on my old car...

"Nuke Gay Whales for Jesus"

would cause quite a stir among the relatives... AND it was my favorite all time sticker... Sorry you got basted in a white wine sauce with shallots... Sports Afield was a pretty cool mag. Just can't afford all the cool magazines I want (nor do I have time to read them!) Anyway, I reckon we're getting a little edgy. Maybe Chuck should announce the closing of the site again. :o>

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 24, 2002.


Gailann, great bumper sticker! Wish I had one. My favorite bumper sticker is: "Visualize Whirled Peas"

-- Cabin Fever (cabinfever_MN@yahoo.com), April 24, 2002.

One of my grad students (I'm a secretary not a professor, Jim!) brought it back from Chicago. He knew how off the wall I am and knew I'd enjoy it immensely!! I know they are still available. I plan to get one to put on my Love Machine (1987 Blue Chevy Sprint that only runs on two cylinders...) and want to paint hot pink splashes on my L.M. I figure it'll scare Hell out of the locals...

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 24, 2002.

I remember a variation on above bumpersticker: "Nuke a gay baby seal for Christ" Then older hippy type who was working at food coop wore a "Born again pagan" t-shirt. That created quite a controversy among the fundamentalist members. Think both were just poking a little fun at people who take everything too seriously and want everybody to conform to one particular way of thinking.

None of this is anything compared to these "homeowners associations" that abound anymore. Was up early and overnight news showed one man being arrested that shot several people at a meeting of his homeowners association when they wouldnt let him trim his own landscaping. Seems the homeowners association had hired a landscaper and took a cop with them. Forcibly trimmed this man's bushes/trees, charged him for the privelege and used the cop to threaten him into submission. Seems bit extreme on both sides. I cant imagine anyone dumb enough to buy property that is controlled by a homeowners association in first place. Best revenge is not to shoot anybody, but to discourage anybody from buying property under such an arrangement. When it gets to point where home owner association controlled property is worth half what other property is worth then maybe they'd whistle another tune.

-- Hermitjohn (Hermit@hilltop_homestead.zzn.com), April 24, 2002.


here we go again...

-- claudia in NY (cooleyville@aol.com), April 24, 2002.


Corn Pops, Lucky Charms, Post Toasties, Fruity Pebbles. Sittin' on the dock of the bay, wastin' time... One two three it's easy as do re mi, I'm thankful.. fa lettin me be mice elf again... Thank you for giving me the best day of my life... Just diggin' up bones... pardon me dear, is that the Chattanooga choo choo... No, my name is Joe and I work... in a button factory...one day my boss said "Are ya busy?"... I said "NO! My name is Joe..."

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 24, 2002.

Ardie,

Please pass the "Oy Vey Flakes" and milk :>)

-- Jay Blair in N. AL (jayblair678@yahoo.com), April 24, 2002.


OK, I know I am new here and haven't really been around long enough to get a feel for the group dynamics but as an newbie or an outsider looking in......

alot of folks here seem very intolerant of anyone expressing an opinion or viewpoint other than their own. i am not sure where i sit on this particular issue but to be completely honest, the person who's posts are in question has yet to lower herself to namecalling and mocking others. i cannot say the same of others. reading these childish posts doesnt say alot for the point you are trying to make. it kind of makes you look bad.

just my 2 cents. ya'all have a nice day.

btw: none of what i wrote pertains to the bumpersticker turn this conversation took. my fav. all time bumper sticker? It will be a great day when the air force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber....support your school! ..or something like that. :)

-- Najia (najia274@yahoo.com), April 24, 2002.


sheesh, i am not awake yet. that is supposed to read DOESNT PERTAIN TO THE BUMPERSTICKER THREAD. ....quick someone pass me the coffee.....

-- Najia (najia274@yahoo.com), April 24, 2002.

Nah, we're not intolerant. We just divert to other streams of consciousness when the thread turns nasty, intolerant, or mean. Like making light of a horrible situation. Yes?

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 24, 2002.


I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe! Oy vey! You people are so funny!!!!!

-- Ardie/WI (ardie54965@hotmail.com), April 24, 2002.

Maybe what some are interperting as intollerance of other's thoughts, opinions, and beliefs, is actually those people laughing and making fun of themselves!?

Just a thought!

-- Susan in MN (nanboo@paulbunyan.net), April 24, 2002.


Northern Sun sells these bumperstickers and MANY more. T-shirts, posters, etc. They are online too. My new catalog from them came today and it always leaves me rolling. That's where I got the silver fish with feet decal. Evolve, I say!

-- Anne (HealthyTouch101@wildmail.com), April 24, 2002.

Hey, thanks on the Northern Sun info. I'll check it out right now! :o>

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 24, 2002.

Susan, you may be right. Its always easy to misinterpret meaning over the net...its not like you can see sarcasm or hear the tone of voice. thanks. :0)

-- Najia (najia274@yahoo.com), April 24, 2002.

My favorite bumper sticker was "I want to die peacfully in my sleep like Grampa did.... Not screaming hysterically as the passengers riding in his car. :>)

-- Jay Blair in N. AL (jayblair678@yahoo.com), April 24, 2002.

I have a bumpersticker on my truck that reads: Jesus is coming, look busy.

Hey Gailann, gitchy gitchy ya ya na na, you ho ho and a bottle of rum, it's delightful, it's delicious, it's delectable, it's delierious it's dilemma, it's da limit, it's deluxe, it's delovely.....

-- gilly (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 24, 2002.


Gilly, you feeling alright? Delirius? Dilemma?

-- Nan (davidl41@ipa.net), April 24, 2002.

This one is for Gailann, Bren, and Gilly......DAAAAAYOOOOO...me say DAAAAAYOOOOO......daylight come and me wanna go home!! (Cows, chickens, geese, dogs, cats, children, all together now!) Come Mister tally man tally me bananas...daylight come and me wanna go home!

-- Nan (davidl41@ipa.net), April 24, 2002.

Oh Jay that was too funny! What about "Hit me, I need a new truck" or "Old age and slyness will beat out youth and enthusiasm anyday".

Have a good one!

-- Cindy (sidepasser@hotmail.com), April 24, 2002.


You know, reading the many threads on this forum over time, there seem to be a lot of intolerant ideas that the 'in' crowd accepts....

Organic is the only way! Chemicals are instant death for all! Big farms are bad! How to get around govt regulations on my 10 acres to do whatever I want, while condemning the neighbor for not following the govt rules on his land?

And other such.

It seems this place is a closed circle of intolerant people - sometimes.

Kind of like the white only golf clubs that don't have a race problem because they don't allow any other race in, or some such.

If someone brings up an issue that isn't pre-appoved by the hard-core homesteaders or looks at things in a different light, boy are you knocked around here! You are called nasty, and intolerant, and rude.

I guess some of you all can look to yourselves, too, when you call others rude. I'm not sure why one extreme view around here is always right, and the other extreme view is always wrong....

I think a lot of the 'hot topic' messages that people view as nasty or rude are just a view from the other side, along with some dark humor & self-ridicule that no one bothers to see.

Does the mainstream on this forum only want one view, one way, no opposing thoughts on topics? That would not seem helpful. Bland perhaps, but not helpful.

To Shannon, my comments to your messages have always been about the _message_ and not a personal attack of you. If it seemed otherwise, sorry. I have a long time invested in studying PETA, J. Robbins, Howard Lymon (sp?), ALF, local vegan & animal rights groups, Fido & internet animal rights discussion groups - and I find the conglomerate message from them to be repulsive. The issue is certainly a 'hot topic' for me, but I think deservidly so, and not without much thought & study on my part. Again, my reaction was a counterpoint to your message, and not to you on a personal level - I have equally enjoyed many of your other messages, and have tried to say so.

To this thread - some of you are really funny! :) I like the sense of humor. :) :) Earlier in this message I painted with a broad brush - a lot of good folks here that don't need to be covered, & I certainly can splatter a lot of the paint on myself along the way. :)

Hey, I rarely eat breakfast, tends to be coffee & a roll when I do...

--->Paul

-- paul (ramblerplm@hotmail.com), April 25, 2002.


Oh..bummer Paul....and I thought I was part of the "in" crowd. !!! What a hoot! Hey Bren, Gilly, does that come as a shock to you that we are not the "IN" crowd? ;~)

-- Bukbuk (Hmmm@chicken.com), April 25, 2002.

Hey paul, did I miss something? All that you said in this message was a quote about eating plants because you hate them. Were you talking about another thread?

-- Bukbuk (hmmmm@chicken.com), April 25, 2002.

Dang! Did I miss out, AGAIN?!?!

-- Bren (wayoutfarm@skybest.ocm), April 25, 2002.

Yep! Fraid so! Life is hard aint it!?! Oh well! Living in the boonies, who would know if we were in the IN crowd or not?! We can have our own crowd I suppose! Let's see, the "out" crowd? For outlandish, outlaws, out of town(way out!), out in left field(right field too for that matter), and outside most of the time!

-- Bukbuk (hmmm@chicken.com), April 25, 2002.

goodness........there's an "in crowd"??? Who might that be?? You are funny paul!!! While you are painting with your broad brush.......please........I am dying to know.............just who is the in crowd???? I totally missed that one........on that note......I leave singing..........day light come and I wanna go home!!!

-- diane (gardiacaprines@yahoo.com), April 25, 2002.

Hey, Bukbuk, do you have an innie or an outie??

-- gilly (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 25, 2002.

Are you kidding me?, chickens don't have belly buttons! I am highly offended...sniff! heeheehee!

-- Bukbuk (hmmm@chicken.com), April 25, 2002.

Hi Gene, thought I would have a better chance of giving my answer on this post than the last post.

Yes, I quite receiveing S.A. when they went yuppie. I don't have anything against the yuppie stuff but I'm not a yuppie person. I always hunted and fished, they were my two favorite sports. So when they went yuppie and I didn't see any articles on hunting and fishing there for a while I dicided to drop the magazine. Why get something if you are not going to read it. But since then I think that they have tried to make a come back with hunting and fishing articles and tried to stay yuppie also. But they are not the only hunting and fishing magazine that I am dropping. Some of those magazines are getting extremely pricey or they are going to the every other month issue. Kinda like Countryside were you get a Jan/Feb. issue. Six issues a year for the same price as twelve.

Well I've decided that some of these are just getting too expensive for me so I'm letting a few of my subscriptions expire without renewing.

Oh, one other thing: Shannon from grateful acres probably bulldozed a racoon tree den down just so her house could be built in the same spot.

-- r.h. in okla. (rhays@sstelco.com), April 25, 2002.


How about a "I BRAKE FOR TAILGATERS" bumper sticker.

-- Mike (uyk7@aol.com), April 25, 2002.

Another favorite bumpersticker, this one seen on a gnarly old V.W.: Stop Tailgating Me or I'll Flick a Booger on your Car!

Sorry about the umbilical thing, Bukbuk, it was insensitive of me to mention it....deepest apologies.

-- gilly (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 25, 2002.


But, speaking technically (and pompously) here, aren't the chicks attached to the yolk sack in the egg? Wouldn't there be a rudimentary belly button then? I know they absorb it but shouldn't we check? I got a never ending love for you, from now on that's all I wanna do, from the first time we met, I knew... Oh crap. I gotta go get some more caffeine... Hip Hop rules!! JA RULE. J Lo, sweet chariot, comin' for to carry me home... (snicker, snort, guffaw, chortle...)

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 26, 2002.

EXCUUUUUUUSE me! That is getting kinda personal there Gailann!:~)! The chicken absorbs it's yoke in a very embarrassing spot folks. I would rather not talk about it. You make me blush! :~) giggle snicker buk buk buk!

-- Bukbuk (hmmm@chicken.com), April 26, 2002.

But shouldn't we look? I mean, it's our civic duty to inform folks that want to castrate a canary or some such! I will have to listen to Hip Hop at 43,000 decibels just to distract me from the chicken belly button mission I see looming as my personal challenge... (maybe we'll get awarded honorary degrees for this!) ba KAK!

-- Gailann Schrader (gtschrader@aol.com), April 26, 2002.

Yea, come on, Bukbuk! Inquiring minds wanna know!

-- Bren (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 26, 2002.

Hmmmmmm........to put it delicately........if I had a belly button it would be in the same spot as my little feathery backside! The yoke gets absorbed through the.... ahem.....hiney hole. So on chickens, backsides and belly buttons are one and the same. Now you can consider yourselves enlightened! buk buk buk ! Some things are just not a mystery anymore...siiiiiiigh!

-- Bukbuk (hmmm@chicken.com), April 26, 2002.

I just realized that we are amazing...we just went from vegetarians, to hunting....to chicken hineys! What a train of thought we have! More like a roller coaster wouldn't you say!? You all are great company, by the way! buk buk buk!

-- Bukbuk (hmmmm@chicken.com), April 26, 2002.

Bukbuk, that is definitely an innie!!! (And a little too much info for my G-rated ears).

-- gilly (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 27, 2002.

Oh Gilly, you asked and you didn't want me to lie did you? heehee! It is very difficult to describe a chicken's backside without being a little graphic! :> :> :> buk buk buk! I betcha now we will have Gailann singing chicken train again! heeheehee!

-- Bukbuk (hmmm@chicken.com), April 27, 2002.

If we're talking poultry posteriors I'd be more worried that Gailann would sing Funky Chicken....

Bren just strolled through singing, "Disco, disco duck, I wanna be a disco duck..." What is the world coming to?

-- gilly (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 28, 2002.


That is very fowl Gilly! snicker snicker! You quack me up! tee hee! Oh Gene, we kinda took over your thread about .....now let's see, what was this thread about....oh ya'! We were discussing Sports Afield Magazine. Sorry, we should be more serious! Don't think that is possible. Have you ever seen a serious chicken? heeheehee! Hey, speaking from a chicken's point of veiw.....I believe you should eat more veggies! I mean, everyone says that it tastes just like chicken. Gives a bukbuk girl the creeps! heehee! buk buk buk :> :> :> :>

-- Bukbuk! (hmmmm@chicken.com), April 28, 2002.

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