I am wondering about a post here the day before yesterday that seems to have disappeard entirely. It concerned maybe a toucy topic, with a family trying to make a break for it from inlaws. I won't mention names in case it happens to be secret, but I am wondering what became of the post I was so carefully following. There were lots of responses and I was learning from them greatly, not only that, but I was hoping for someone to have the perfect answer.

Was the entire post deleted and if so, how come? I'm just wondering how things work around here. I hate it when LUSNET goes down and then I have to get out to go to work!

-- TIs I (really_tis_i@yahoo.com), April 11, 2002

Answers

yes it has been deleted.I think it was getting folks worked up. including me!!!That happens when we all get off the homesteading issues and into personal issues. dont blink though, there will be another soon enough!! LOL. cody

-- cody (urbusted@alltel.net), April 11, 2002.

I am glad that someone asked about that post. I was looking for it too as I was following it and wondering what if any decision was going to be made by the person that posted it. I was surprised when I couldn't find it because I have seen 'hotter' posts that didn't disappear.

-- cindy palmer (jandcpalmer@sierratel.com), April 11, 2002.

The postings from that source were beginning to feel slightly eerie, as does this one.

-- Griff in OR (griff@hangnail.com), April 12, 2002.

Now I'm interested. I have not known Chuck to delete a post. I have seen him steer folks to other forums but I have yet to see a deletion. My e-mail is valid so tell me more about it---is it possible it got offensive ?

We as a people must protect our right of free speech. However, I missed this thread and I'm going to wait for more information on the subject before rendering a decision.

There must be something wrong because Chuck let me and Dave the Enslaver (Belinger) go at it with no holds barred. Tell me more ?

-- Joel Rosen (JoelnBecky@webtv.net), April 12, 2002.

I was wondering about it too. I hope she was able to receive some timely help. When I last saw it, it did not seem too bad. But as a moderator myself, I know sometimes people ask me to remove threads or change names and I generally try to comply. This is often because after people type something of a personal nature, they later become uncomfortable or concerned that people they know might see it. This happens every once in a while. I am not saying that is what happened, as I don't know for sure, just saying what might have happened. So it is not necessarily being censored, but just trying to help out a person who started the thread to begin with...

-- Melissa in SE Ohio (me@home.net), April 12, 2002.

Yep, I was wondering also why it had been deleted. It didn't seem too bad to me at the time, but maybe it got overheated before LUSENT went down. Chuck is a real fair guy and so something must have happened out of the ordinary or else the poster requested it to be deleted. Maybe Chuck will enlighten us.

-- Karen (mountains_mama2@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

i agree with griff (did i spell that right), things were starting to get a little eerie. i got a weird feeling and kinda got scared away from that one. it just got menacing and ppl weren't being nice when ppl took things the wrong way. so ya know...best to have the air clear than filled with stench!!!

-- C (punk_chicadee@yahoo.com), April 12, 2002.

If it's the one I'm thinking of, I was feeling like I was entering the Twilight Zone!

-- Ardie/WI (ardie54965@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

I wasn't trying to bring back a touchy subject, I guess it must have gotten bad after I last saw it.

I was just wondering what the general rules are here, and what does it take to have an offensive post removed and other associated guidelines?

-- Tis I (really_tis_i@yahoo.com), April 12, 2002.

I had e-mailed this person and they said that their spouse had asked Chuck to delete the thread.

-- Bren (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 12, 2002.

Well after reading the thread on my computer this morning (this is why I receive the posts on my e-mail. Nobody can delete them.), Chuck must have removed it because the poster asked him to. I say this because there was nothing in that thread that made it worth removing for any other reason.

Little Bit

-- Little bit Farm (littlebit@farm.com), April 12, 2002.

Just like everyone else, I was wondering where it went. If she was in so much trouble, it might not be a good thing that her spouse has control over her posts. ( Her husband wanted Chuck to delete it) Maybe we should keep in touch with her!

-- cowgirlone in ok (cowgirlone47@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

All morning, I've been thinking along the same lines as cowgirlone. I've noticed that the person in question has not posted at all since that thread was deleted. Maybe they've been busy but it hasn't followed their previous forum patterns. I'm also wondering if we should continue this subject off-forum?

-- Bren (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 12, 2002.

I think, in respect for privacy, it should be off-forum. Also, your intentions are very kind, but maybe, we should also respect the relationship between the lady and her husband. This is only my opinion.

-- Ardie/WI (ardie54965@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

You're probably right, Ardie. Hopefully she is getting the original problem taken care of and she's too busy to post. She did say once before that her husband is a wonderful guy. He probably doesn't want or need advise from a bunch of strangers. Might make the situation worse. Best wishes everyone!

-- cowgirlone in ok (cowgirlone47@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

I meant to say advice-not advise. I can't blame my bad spelling on not having my coffee this time. LOL!

-- cowgirlone in ok (cowgirlone47@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

OK...at the risk of ticking someone off,i'm going to speak my mind. when this girl first posted her issue here,i responded to her. she mailed me several times personaly. After these posts, i began to wonder about the validity of her situation and questioned her about some things she said.this is how i sum this whole thing up with her. i believe mostly her problem is that they mismanaged their finances. due to this they were taken in by inlaws probably several times over the years. i believe she sees no light at the end of the tunnel as far as getting out of there.the lack of cash is most likely due to not wanting to work. plain and simple. she reads the posts of others living their dream or trying to and she is wanting the same. consider this.. the husband asked to have the post deleted because there were untrue and embarassing and wanted it stopped before it got out of hand.Or,maybe she didnt get what she wanted out of this story and decided its best to leave.I did notice in previous posts she was looking for SOMEONE--ANYONE to lend her money. well, call me what you will.. i have seen this before and have had many dealings with this type of people in my previous job. NO not everyone is scamming. some people have real problems like this one claims to have. but my gut feeling tells me otherwise. cody

-- cody (urbusted@alltel.net), April 12, 2002.

or MAYBE she was getting so emotionally upset at the things some ppl were saying that her husband, being a wonderful guyyy, thought it in her best interest to have the post deleted!!!!!!!!!!! i think we should all stop speculating because it's not our business adn we have no clue what the full circumstances are. :)

btw, tis i, i have no clue what the rules are except writing things that are not vulgar.

-- C (punk_chicadee@yahoo.com), April 12, 2002.

concern for Mrs.? and her perceived plight is a fine thing - gossip is a drag.

-- B. Lackie - Zone3 (cwrench@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

I feel, being someone who has lived through an abusive relationship, that I must point out that "respecting the relationship between a lady and her husband" or "minding your own business" or whatever you want to call it, is one of the major contributors as to why spousal/partner abuse is so high in this country. I don't think anyone on the forum is stating that this is what is happening in this particulat stituation but if there are enough questions about someone's living situation, a person needs to know that it IS acceptable to pursue the matter. Please, I am NOT jumping on anyone! Just consider this your Public service Announcement for today. :o)

-- Bren (wayoutfarm@skybest.com), April 12, 2002.

Now...let's get on with gardening or something...anything,please!

-- Ardie/WI (ardie54965@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

you are right, gossip is a drag and her personal problems are none of anyones business. so the best thing to do, is not give people things to gossip about and dont bring it to a public forum,ask opinions and make it everyones business.its not like anyone went looking into her business w/o being invited.also, forming an asked opinion , isnt gossip.

-- cody (urbusted@alltel.net), April 12, 2002.

excuse me, urbusted, but I do believe speculating publicly on the criminal/scamming intent of woman - based on a thread that she requested to be eliminated and your "gut"- is gossip.

-- B. Lackie - Zone3 (cwrench@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

i didnt say she was criminaly scamming. there are all types of scams. including emotional.i also said not everyone is guilty of it. i also said that some people have issues like she is claiming to have. meaning she could very well be on the up and up.however.. i am entitled to my opinion of the situation. if you had read previous posts from before you will see that what she says isnt adding up. the issue isnt gossip or not. dont ask people for help and change your story over and over, it makes people wonder about you and form opinions. chill out

-- cody (urbusted@alltel.net), April 12, 2002.

urbusted - I intentionally did not mention your name or specifics of your post when I first answered - in hopes of avoiding this type of p*ssing contest but since you correctly identified yourself (if the shoe fits) and responded directly then so be it.

"i am entitled to my opinion of the situation" said Cody. yes you are and thank God for that. I too am entitled to my opinion and I have stated it. speculation is one thing, PUBLIC speculation is another.

as for chilling out...I believe the raspberry guy established some months back, in an earlier post, that you are not the forum police.

and with that... apologies to the forum for the PUBLIC spat and adios! to this thread.

-- B. Lackie - Zone3 (cwrench@hotmail.com), April 12, 2002.

OH... i get it now.. thanks for clarifying.. everyone else can voice their opinion, but when i do, i'm dubbed the forum police. thanks.. i'll be able to sleep MUCH better now. funny how a total stranger can come to a public forum, air dirty laundry,magically dissapear, and leave other total strangers arguing .

-- cody (urbusted@alltel.net), April 12, 2002.