Something BIG coming soon?

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One of Olson's Doomer nitwits made this recent prognostication on this very forum:

"The vibes are very synchronistic lately... something major is likely to happen soon. It could be another terrorist attack or a big earthquake or maybe both, since the former could trigger the latter. The week of March 10 - 17 feels likely, with very strong possibilities on the 11th. This is the week of the strongest gravitational pull we will experience this year, with the New Moon in a very close orbit, and Monday the 11th will be 6 months after 911.

And once again the doomer stooges couldn't be more WRONG!

-- Andy (andy@kaufman.com), March 18, 2002

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I bet you set your alarm to get up extra early since you just couldn't wait to post this first thing this morning, right Y2K Pro, aka "Fat Molson"??

LOL!! You have the mind of a child!

-- (naa-naa@naa-naa.naa), March 18, 2002.


2 Americans Killed in Attack on Church in Pakistan

By RAYMOND BONNER

SLAMABAD, Pakistan, March 17 — Two men walked into a Protestant church close to the American Embassy this morning, in one of the most guarded areas in one of the most secure cities in Pakistan, and threw several grenades. Five people were killed, including an embassy employee and her daughter, a high school senior.

At least 40 people were wounded, many critically, most of them foreigners.

The blasts sundered bodies of worshipers and sent blood flying across the simple hall where the worshipers were listening to the sermon, having just finished singing "This Is Holy Ground." After the outburst, a man's black loafer lay by the long table where white coffee cups were arranged for the post-service congregants.

The attack targeted the Protestant International Church, a nondenominational church in the diplomatic enclave here, 400 yards from the sprawling embassy compound, where glistening razor-wire coils along the top of brick walls. Life had been returning to normal at the embassy, with relatives of the diplomats only recently having come back after being sent home after Sept. 11.

The attack appeared to be directly aimed at the Americans and at the government of President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan. Both reacted vehemently today. In Washington, President Bush said in a statement, that he was outraged, and that the deaths were "acts of murder that cannot be tolerated by any person of conscience." President Musharraf called the attack a "ghastly act of terrorism."

The United States has relied on President Musharraf and Pakistan as vital allies in the war in Afghanistan and more generally against terrorism. At some political risk, the Pakistani government has been carrying out its own war against domestic terrorists. President Musharraf has banned several organizations, and the police have rounded up several hundred suspected terrorists.

The kidnapping and killing of the American journalist Daniel Pearl in January already suggested that the terrorists may be striking back, though no group claimed responsibility for today's attack.

The violence at the church "is a terrorist attack designed to embarrass the government," said the Islamabad police chief, Nasir Khan Durrani.

In recent days, diplomats and Pakistani intelligence officials have expressed the fear that the banned groups were putting their operations back together and further terrorist attacks were likely.

There has been a surge of sectarian killings of Shiite doctors in recent weeks in Karachi, Pakistan, long known as a city with considerable crime and violence.

On Friday, the Karachi police advised the American Embassy that "elements connected to the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl are considering kidnapping more American citizens," according to a public warning issued by the embassy. The embassy urged Americans to increase their security and to travel in groups.

"The attack this morning on worshipers in Islamabad was a cowardly act that took the lives of five innocent people and injured many more while they were worshiping," the American ambassador here, Wendy J. Chamberlin, said in a brief appearance this evening.

"There is a hard lesson to be drawn from today's tragic event," she said, her emotion checked, her resolve clear. President Bush and General Musharraf "were absolutely right to take on the terrorists no matter where they are," she went on. "To say to them: no more. We will not give in to those driven by hate, to those so cowardly they throw explosives at innocent people in a house of worship."

The police had few clues. The grenades were Russian-made, but that offers little insight, because in parts of this country, grenades and automatic rifles are as readily available as bananas in the market. It is possible that one of attackers was killed, the police said.

The Americans killed were Barbara Green and her daughter, Kristen Wormsley, a senior at the American school here. Mrs. Green was an employee in the human resources center at the embassy. Her husband is a diplomat, Milton Green, director of the computer section at the embassy, the State Department said. He and their young son were also injured, but not seriously, American Embassy officials said here this evening.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, the spouses and children of American diplomats were sent home. They were allowed to return only six weeks ago. Mrs. Green had left with the children and returned last month.

One of those killed was a Pakistani citizen, another an Afghan. The fifth victim has not been identified, and the police said it might be one of the attackers. He will be hard to identify because just about all of his body was blown away, the police said.

"It's a miracle" that only five were killed, said a German aid worker who was one of those spared. Altogether 13 Americans were injured. Citizens of at least nine other countries were among the injured.

The church was only about half full, with 60 to 70 worshipers. Many diplomats and foreign aid workers have still not returned to the country.

While this nation has been riven by sectarian violence, it has been between Sunni and Shiite Muslims. Attacks on Christians, who make up less than 5 percent of the population, have been rare. Last Oct. 29, though, 15 worshipers were killed when attackers opened fire in a church in Bahawalpur.

This morning's attack suggests that no degree of caution may be enough.

Islamabad, the capital, is one of the most tranquil cities in Asia. It is a created city with broad, leafy boulevards and expensive homes. Killings are not unheard of, but are rare.

Add to that the increased security at the diplomatic enclave. There are several police checkpoints on the road lined by the embassies. Cars have to slow down, and weave around barriers. A car bombing would be hard to pull off, but the search of individuals is cursory at best.

Moreover, the enclave abuts acres of open woods, where today men could be seen attending to cattle. It would have been easy for today's attackers to walk through the fields.

Solid information about the attack was hard to come by, with differing reports about the number of attackers and the number of grenades.

"There were four, five blasts, one at the back that alerted us all," said Nicholas Parham, who works with a British aid agency, Tearfund. "Then he ran up the center aisle just past where I was," he said about the attacker that he saw.

He said the man had one grenade in his hand and several grenades on his belt. "I didn't know whether he was going to blow himself up," Mr. Parham said. "I hit the deck, and then there was another blast."

The glass was blown out of every window and huge holes were punched in the ceiling. Blood soaked the floor throughout the room, about 80 feet by 80 feet.

The injured were taken to the Federal Government Services Hospital, a rundown facility with grimy walls and soiled sheets. Beefy American security personnel in civilian clothes were on guard in the dingy halls, as special American medical teams operated on the American casualties.

A body lay on a rickety metal gurney, covered by a sheet. A man came in, pulled back the sheet slightly, looked at the face, then sat down, put his head in his hands and began to sob. An American woman in a maroon baseball cap walked over to comfort him.

"We couldn't see anything, it happened so fast," said a German man at the hospital. "There were torn bodies, parts of bodies, lying around." He had trouble hearing a reporter's question. "Our ears are blocked," he said, from the blast, putting his hands to the side of his head.

In her statement this evening, Ms. Chamberlin declined to take questions but left no doubt the resolve of the United States to remain.

"Those of you who know me and who know the United States, and who know my president, will know that I will answer these questions another day," she said. "Because we will be here."

Islamic Leader Freed

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, March 17 (Reuters) — The military government released a pro-Taliban Islamic leader today after keeping him in detention for five months.

The official APP news agency said that North West Frontier Province had withdrawn an order under which the leader of the Society of Islamic Clerics, Maulana Fazlur Rehman, had been arrested in October. He was charged with opposing Pakistani support for the American-led war in Afghanistan.

Pakistan has banned seven hard-line Islamic groups and rounded up more than 2,000 activists as part of efforts to control militancy after the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.

Last month, a court released on bail Qazi Hussain Ahmed, the leader of Pakistan's most important religious party, the Islamic Party, after a four-month detention.

-- (Another terror attack @ against. America), March 18, 2002.


It's pretty clear that there was a BIG incident last week that was simply covered up by gubmint shills. The fact that nothing visible happened is proof that something BIG really did happen.

It also proves that something EVEN BIGGER of MAJOR CATASTROPHIC PROPORTIONS will be on its way in a matter of weeks, perhaps days, maybe hours.

Hope you've all got your "preps" because if you don't, then you'll die like the rest of the dumb polly sheeple.

-- (stupid@doo.mer), March 18, 2002.


"It's pretty clear that there was a BIG incident last week that was simply covered up by gubmint shills."

No, it wasn't covered up at all. Didn't you read the article above about the attack against Americans?

"The fact that nothing visible happened is proof that something BIG really did happen."

How come you keep saying that? It is completely visible. It may not be BIG to you because you weren't killed, but to the people who are dead, it was very BIG.

-- (Americans@dead.meat), March 18, 2002.


You don't "GI." Something MUCH BIGGER happened, but it was covered up, just like the gubmint always does. You just won't admit it. You're just in denial like a typical polly. Soon you'll be dead like them too.

-- (stupid@doo.mer), March 18, 2002.


"It also proves that something EVEN BIGGER of MAJOR CATASTROPHIC PROPORTIONS will be on its way in a matter of weeks, perhaps days, maybe hours.

Hope you've all got your "preps" because if you don't, then you'll die like the rest of the dumb polly sheeple."

I hate to admit it because you sound like a stupid doomer, but it looks like your prediction will come true...

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Official: Al-Qaida Moving Money Again

Sun Mar 17, 3:54 AM ET

By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al-Qaida network has stepped up its financial activity markedly in recent weeks, suggesting some leaders are reasserting control and may be seeking to finance more attacks against American interests, a U.S. official says.

The increased flow of money corresponds with a recent increase in communications between surviving al-Qaida members, the official said, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The communications, detected by U.S. intelligence, have occurred between small groups of al-Qaida fighters and some Taliban allies, officials said. Much of the activity is centered in northwestern Pakistan — near the Afghan border — although some money and communications are going elsewhere, one official said.

The activity suggests some known al-Qaida leaders are re-establishing control over surviving elements of the terrorist network, the official said, declining to name the leaders. U.S. intelligence has detected a significant boost in money transfers within al-Qaida to people who could use it to prepare attacks on American interests, although the official offered no specifics on potential attacks.

"There's lots of signs al-Qaida is reconstituting itself," said Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA (news - web sites) counterterrorist chief. "Internet traffic has picked up enormously. Money is moving around. There is some evidence leadership is active."

The fate of many of al-Qaida's top commanders is unknown. While several have been killed in the Afghan war, and a few captured, many are believed to have hidden in caves in Afghanistan (news - web sites) to wait out the U.S. bombing campaign.

Bin Laden has been silent for months. U.S. intelligence has had vague hints he remained in the Afghan-Pakistan border region. Officials have few doubts he is still alive.

President Bush (news - web sites) last week called him "marginalized," and intelligence officials, during classified briefings to congressional leaders, suggested he had been wounded and may be quietly recovering somewhere. But they acknowledge there is no hard evidence on his condition.

Cannistraro said finding bin Laden remains as important as ever.

"It's pretty clear they don't know where he is, which is why they are de-emphasizing the importance of him," he said.

Other senior leaders capable of masterminding attacks, such as Ayman al-Zawahri and Abu Zubaydah, remain at large. Al-Zawahri, bin Laden's doctor and spiritual adviser, survived bombing in Afghanistan that killed his family. Zubaydah, previously based in Pakistan, had contacts with al-Qaida cells around the world.

The U.S. official said that while there is some evidence of al-Qaida's leadership at work, many of its cells are capable of conducting attacks independent of top commanders.

The hijackers who conducted Sept. 11 attacks received money from bin Laden's financial chief, also known as Mustafa Ahmed al-Hisawi and Shaikh Saiid. He fled the United Arab Emirates for Pakistan on Sept. 13, and his whereabouts are unknown.

The global financial crackdown on terrorist money has hindered al-Qaida's ability to finance attacks, officials said. But it never stopped.

On Friday, a top Treasury Department (news - web sites) official said more than 150 countries have joined the United States in helping to freeze accounts and block transactions between suspected terrorists — including al-Qaida operatives.

Overall, the United States has frozen more than $35 million, while the combined effort of other countries has halted about $70 million, said Mike Romey, special assistant to the treasury secretary for national security, who was speaking to students in Kentucky.

Al-Qaida's money is believed to come from a number of sources — bin Laden's personal fortune, donations of seemingly legitimate Islamic humanitarian concerns, and honey and gold trading.

The activity in Pakistan is one of the strongest signs yet that al-Qaida is attempting to reconstitute itself. U.S. intelligence has been watching in dozens of countries for the arrival of al-Qaida fighters from Afghanistan. Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and Indonesia are top prospects, officials and experts said.

The U.S. government also is tracking a new Taliban-like group in Kurdish-controlled parts of northern Iraq, although officials say they have no evidence it is tied to either the Taliban or al-Qaida. The group, Ansar al-Islam, professes an extremist Islamic philosophy and has some foreign members, the official said.

-- (uh-oh@it's.coming), March 18, 2002.


I hate to admit it because you sound like a stupid doomer, but it looks like your prediction will come true...

Of course it will come true. Terrorists only attack dumb pollies and DGIs who don't have preps.

-- (stupid@doo.mer), March 18, 2002.


"No, it wasn't covered up at all. Didn't you read the article above about the attack against Americans?"

Only Cosmo the Doom Bunny could equate "Something BIG" "Something major" like a "big earthquake" with an incident on foreign soil. If you hadn't noticed, suicide bombers are a regular occurence in that part of the world. Sounds more like someone scouring the papers trying to justify yet another busted "theory".

Slink back over to you-know-where, this sort of nonsense plays well among the paranoid set...

-- Norm (behind@thescenes.com), March 18, 2002.


"Of course it will come true. Terrorists only attack dumb pollies and DGIs who don't have preps."

Precisely. Our government did not "GI" and was not "prepped" and now 3,000 are dead. They still aren't prepped because the Dumbya administration is clueless and wants all the dumb pollies to die.

-- you will die (lots more doom @ coming. soon), March 18, 2002.


Dagnabbit, where's that rusty hub cap when you need it?

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), March 18, 2002.


Your best preps are between your ears.

-- helen (so@read.read.read), March 18, 2002.

Now Helen, are you trying to scare those old ladies over at FatOlsonLand?

-- Nothing (between@their.ears), March 18, 2002.

There are many good people who post over at TimeBomb. It's a great place to ask a question and get answers from people who are at least trying to be helpful. You may not understand the answers or agree with them, but over there most of the answers will be offered in a helpful spirit.

But ... all the tp in China ain't gonna help me when the truck breaks down on a long stretch of back road three hours before dawn. Prepping starts in your mind, everything else is jury rigged from there.

-- helen (prep@THIS.!), March 18, 2002.


"(stupid@doo.mer)", "Norm (behind@thescenes.com)", "Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com)", "Nothing (between@their.ears)" has the least between his ears of anyone I've ever seen on the Internet, that's how I know it is definitely Y2K Pro.

-- ROTFL (what@jackass.loser), March 18, 2002.

ROTFL (what@jackass.loser), we are all Y2K Pro. Everyone here on this forum is Y2K Pro except for you. It's all an elaborate ruse by the government to control your mind. Now that you've discovered our secret, I'm afraid we'll have to get the white bus and take you to Klintoooooooooon's American Death Camps. That is, if our chemtrail planes don't finish you off first.

-- (we@re.everywhere), March 18, 2002.


But ... all the tp in China ain't gonna help me when the truck breaks down on a long stretch of back road three hours before dawn.

Somebody should have told Jessie that.

-- (would@have.saved.some.money), March 18, 2002.


Makes you wonder if that scamming bitch ever paid the money back. Those stupid shits at FatOlsonLand would send money to Jesse Jackson if Dennis asked them to.

Brain dead morons!

-- Send (mo@money.please), March 19, 2002.


"Makes you wonder if that scamming bitch ever paid the money back. Those stupid shits at FatOlsonLand would send money to Jesse Jackson if Dennis asked them to.

Brain dead morons!

-- Send (mo@money.please), March 19, 2002."

It's better than sending money to a dumbfuck loser like you. You're such a pathetic pissant dweeb loser that you spend all of your time trying to pick a fight with other people on the internet. If you met them in real life you'd probably stick your head between your legs and cry while sucking your little weenie!

-- (LMAO@sendmomoney.thepissant!), March 19, 2002.


Yeah, you're a dumbfuck loser you stupid pathetic pissant dweeb loser! You're such a dumbfuck! And a loser! You have a little weenie! Stupid pissant loser! Go stick your head between your legs and cry while sucking your little weenie, you pissant dweeb dumbfuck loser!!!! You're a pathetic pissant!! Dumbfuck loser!!

We sure told YOU off, you dumbfuck stupid pathetic pissant dweeb loser!!!!

-- Friend of (LMAO@sendmomoney.thepissant!), March 19, 2002.


Helen:

It seems that one poor doomer here needs to fashion a new helmet..



-- Andy (andy@kaufman.com), March 19, 2002.


Golly ‘pissant’, you sound mildly upset. So, how much money have YOU donated over at FatOlsonLand?

-- Send (mo@money.please), March 19, 2002.

2 Funny!!

-- Free (head@case.analysis), March 19, 2002.

Something big DID come, and we missed it- EM7

-- Pammy (pamela_sue57@hotmail.com), March 19, 2002.

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