truck engine extra oil pump

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My old 300 - 6 cylinder has 317k and rattles when I crank it until the oil gets to the lifters. Right now I am trying to raise money for a place so engine rebuilding is out the possiability. Does anyone make an oil pump that can be mounted outside of the engine, ran by electric, that will pressurize the oil system before I try to crank the engine?

-- mitch hearn (moopups@citlink.net), March 03, 2002

Answers

Seems to me that when I sold RV's for a short time (a LONG time ago) that they had extra pumps available for transmission, oil, etc. to install. Maybe you could check RV catalogs?

-- Bonnie (51940@aeroinc.net), March 03, 2002.

Hey Mitch,You might try a couple of cans of STP,I know it helps in my old ford truck. What ever happened to the land in WV you bought? Daryll

-- Daryll in NW FLA (twincrk@hotmail.com), March 03, 2002.

Mitch-have you ever thought about adding Slick 50 to your crankcase? A guy I work with had an old chevy truck that leaked oil so bad, he gave up adding to it, put that Slick 50 in it, and forgot about the oil...I swear! He got a kick out of showing guys his dipstick-not a drop of oil in the engine anywhere!! He drove that durn thing everyday for years, until he finally got around and bought a newer truck! Stuff sure is a lot cheaper than an engine!

-- Joe (threearrs@hotmail.com), March 03, 2002.

yes, they're called 'pre-oilers'. They're a few hundred dollars. For alot less you could put a new pump in it or even have someone else put one in, without pulling the engine out. I recall a post on this engine problem before. Did you try flushing it out?

-- Dave (multiplierx9@hotmail.com), March 03, 2002.

The bearings are just worn out in the motor. You can add all the oil pumps you want but it's not going to fix the problem. The good news is that 300 6 cyl. motors are tougher than a pine knot! When I bought my present truck with a knock in the motor my wife was giving birth to my daughter. The motor knocked so bad I couldn't drive over 45mph. I couldn't see changing the oil on an engine I was going to replace so I never did. For my daughters 10th birthday I replaced the engine in my truck. Not because I had to either. It was still running fine and still knocking with me driving it to work everyday and using it for chores.

-- Emil in TN (eprisco@usit.net), March 03, 2002.


I wouldn't jump to the conclusion the bearings are worn out, at least not yet. Worn out rod, crank and cam bearings make noise even with good pressure. If it's as Mitch said, only noisy til it builds up pressure, it's most likely worn out pump gears. Eventually that will wear the bearings out. Putting an oil pressure gauge on it would better determine. Should have at least 10lbs pressure per 1000rpm though some engines at idle will put out 60lb+.

-- Dave (multiplierx9@hotmail.com), March 03, 2002.

Put in high volum pump dont cost much will work terry

-- terry (bluetik56@aol.com), March 04, 2002.

We could all kick in a little and buy an overhaul or even a rebuilt engine for ole Mitch. I'm serious---I'll kick in my share! He's a friend whose in need, a member of this "family", ain't he? Email me for more info. old hoot. Matt.24:44

-- old hoot gibson (hoot@pcinetwork.com), March 04, 2002.

He also said he needs a place to live, should we chip in and buy him that also? Give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and feed him and his family for a lifetime. If he needs advice or help rebuilding his engine I'm in.

-- Emil in TN (eprisco@usit.net), March 04, 2002.

Emil. Without soundin hateful or like a "big shot"--in offerin to help Mitch it was not my intention to "take over" his life but considerin what he has given to our country in his service years and his physical condition from that military service--I don't think helpin out with an overhaul or rebuilt engine is "takin over" his life. If I'm wrong--I will apologize. Until then I still stand by what I said. old hoot. Matt.24:44

-- old hoot gibson (hoot@pcinetwork.com), March 04, 2002.


well i seen some one do something like what you want but i dont know what it cost him. you can buy oil filter movers it places the oil filter in a better spot for vehicles where the motor is in tight spot. well it used rubber lines to redirect the oil filter he put what looked like a electric fuel pump in the line so he could get the oil going before he started the motor. i dont know if this will work for you and i havent seen the guy in years so i dont know if it still works, but it might be worth a look into. oh ive seen the oil filter movers in JC whitney the pump i have no idea if it was a fuel pump or it it was made for oil or where to get it

-- MikeinKS (mhonk@kscable.com), March 04, 2002.

For what it's worth, based on my 25 years experience with trucks and truck engines I think the 300 CID Ford is one of the best ever built. At 317,000 miles, however, I'd suggest replacing it. The really good news is that you can find 300's in salvage yards by the dozens and they tend to be priced fairly reasonably. They are so plentiful primarily because the engines virtually last forever while the Ford truck bodies rust away. Anyhow, that would be my suggestion to you. Good luck with whichever you decide.

-- Gary in Indiana (gk6854@aol.com), March 04, 2002.

Hi Mitch,

I have used pre-oilers on many of my diesels. They do what you need done, but they were all in the vicinity of 175 to 350 bucks. However they are worth it in my mind as I often get 1000K miles(that's a million folks) on a Cummins before there is any lube oil related issue.

Oscar

-- Oscar H. Will III (owill@mail.whittier.edu), March 06, 2002.


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