Vaccines

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Would ya'll like to offer your opinions on our vaccines being made from the tissue of murdered children?

http://www.cogforlife.org/

What do you think the consequences are, both physical, spiritual and collectively, for injecting the cells of murdered babies into our children?

-- Laura (LadybugWrangler@somewhere.net), December 04, 2001

Answers

Wow, thats a loaded question, Kinda caught between a rock and a hard place. I will be 72 years old, I saw small pox when I was a child, and believe me it is hidious and cruel. Could you stand by and not vaccinate your children, I am not sure I could do that. And I am a christian,I am dead set against abortion, but to sit back and watch my family suffer or die, I don"t think so. Love Irene

-- Irene texas (tkosborn@cs.com), December 04, 2001.

I could sit back and not let people/children have vaccinations. They're the main cause of my health problems today. There's a couple interesting sites about such, I'll see if I can find them again. "Vaccinations" by Michael Dye is a very interesting book.

Someday these people that abort and mess around with unborn and aborted babies will have to stand before God and answer for deeds. Let's pray that as many as possible will wake up before then.

-- Cindy (SE. IN) (atilrthehony@hotmail.com), December 04, 2001.


Whoa! That info definately qualifies as "info I would rather have not known about". I didn't read extensively but enough to see it's true (after a quick look see at my PDR).

I can't comment on the consequences right now. I feel nauseated.

-- John in S. IN (jsmengel@fakeaddress.com), December 04, 2001.


The company making small pox is backing off using fetal cells:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp? ARTICLE_ID=25538

-- - (iwontreadthis99@hotmail.com), December 04, 2001.


Yabbut.....

The first batch is still made from the cells of murdered children. Are you going to trust someone's word on what is in the particular needle they are coming at you with?

We still have the MMR vaccine and hepatitis-A and many others that will continue to be made from murdered children.

John, I too feel incredibly ill by this knowledge, but we need to bring it into the light and discuss the full impact of the knowledge on our lives and on our society.

-- Laura (LadybugWrangler@hotmail.com), December 04, 2001.



I'm beginning to see why there are 2 full pages of abortion ads in the local metro yellow pages.

-- Rick (Rick_122@hotmail.com), December 04, 2001.

I didn't know they used babies....What did they use before abortion became legal? Was the substrate inferior in light of a new possibility? Ugh.

Myself, I will NOT take a vaccine that the powers that be determine I must have. I could sit back as I just don't love my life that much although I am not in a hurry to die.

In my first response thoughts on the consequences of this for us-it will be part of the judgements of the nations I am certain. I think more people need to know about this as then it may be ratherr obvious how despicable much of science has become. I am not strongly opposed to all vaccines, I just think it used too much, and often for an unsubstantiated reason like it is now being used against chicken pox.

This is the second time I have felt sickened beyond belief today. sigh....

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), December 04, 2001.


The last time I studied up on vaccine manufacturing, looooong time ago, they were growing many of them in egg yolks. So all these years we've been reading "embryonic tissue" and it hasn't been chickens at all!

-- Laura (LadybugWrangler@hotmail.com), December 04, 2001.

I think this is a horrible thing. I am dead set against abortion for ANY reason. It is murder, pure and simple. It scares me to think of what might be on the horizon next. To answer the question would I have the vaccine, absolutely not!! I'm not against vaccines per se but only if they are not from human embryos.

-- Barb in Ky. (bjconthefarm@yahoo.com), December 05, 2001.

Are we really sure that this vaccine is made from human embryos? It seems pointless, considering that it can be made successfully from other animals' fibroblasts, and from adult human skin fibroblasts:

Culturing cells in vitro The propagation of mammalian cells outside of the living body in the environment of a culture (Petri) dish or culture flask (in vitro culture) has only become routine over the past quarter century. This process is also termed tissue culture. Most cells grow poorly outside the body in the confines of a Petri dish. It is clear that we still have not learned all of the tricks that are required to replicate faithfully the conditions that cells see when they thrive in the confines of a living tissue (i.e., when they are growing in vivo).

One exception to this generally dismal record of failures in in vitro culturing techniques involves connective tissue cells, termed fibroblasts. These cells are responsible for generating most of the connective tissue in the body, including tendons, fat cells, cartilage and so forth. In fact, cultures of fibroblasts are most readily prepared from embryos, such as mouse or rat embryos. Fibroblasts from older animals are progressively harder to establish as growing cultures in vitro. Other cell types, such as epithelial cells that cover the surfaces of many organs and organ canties, are relatively difficult to grow in culture. An exception is provided by the epithelial cells of the skin, the keratinocytes. http://esg-www.mit.edu:8001/esgbio/cb/cultures.html

Even if this story is true, I guess if I were an aborted embryo, I'd rather that my cells were used to save lives, rather than thrown in the trash compactor...

-- joj (jump@off.c), December 05, 2001.



Without getting into the pros and cons of abortion, I think you should check these facts for yourself before believing what's writtn on a website by anti or pro abortion activists. I can show you websites that swear the fetuses are used in black magic rituals. How about Clinton or Bush holding secret meeting with aliens from outer space. Yup, got those links too.

-- Lucy (lukia1@hotmail.com), April 08, 2002.

The use of fetal tissue is unfortunately NOT a rumor, just check a PDR. Human diploid Cells from MRC5 and WI-38 are listed in many vaccines. It is sickening, and I refuse to use them in my children now that I am aware of it.

Diane Haley, RN, BSN

-- Diane Haley (dhaleyrn@hotpop.com), November 04, 2002.


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