Well I just found out that my UK stockist has now discontinued this film in 120 format, I will just have to hang up the hasselblad and switch to 35mm!

Unless anyone knows of an alternative which is nice with Rodinal - I have bottles of the stuff. Looking for a lovely tonal range mainly.

Thanks, Gary

-- Gary Holliday (boderectium@yahoo.com), August 19, 2001

Answers

Check out Fuji Acros.

-- Ted Kaufman (writercrmp@aol.com), August 19, 2001.

Ilford Pan F 50 Asa? Efke R 25 and R 50?

-- Patric (jenspatric@mail.bip.net), August 20, 2001.

Try TMX (several previous posts refer to this combo) or Verichrome Pan.

-- Kevin (kkemner@tatesnyderkimsey.com), August 21, 2001.

I'm not sure what good switching to 35mm would do since APX is gone in 35mm as well as 120 as far as I know. At least that's the case in the US. Is 35mm APX still current in Europe? I thought it was dead there too.

-- Bob Atkins (bobatkins@hotmail.com), August 21, 2001.

Based on my comparisons of 120 film grain, the best replacements for Agfa 25 I can reccomend would be Tech Pan, TMX or XP2, in that order.

-- Gene Crumpler (hassieguy@att.net), August 21, 2001.

Gene, Have you tried Ilford Pan F+, and if so, what are your comments, and which developer was used.

-- Michael Feldman (mfeldman@qwest.net), August 21, 2001.

Micheal;

Based on my limited test of 120 film, Pan F has more grain than TMX and XP2. Pan F is disadvantged compared with TMX ( and I would also assume Delta 100) in grain or speed. All of these tests were developed with Ethol TEC (not the xp2), which I no longer use. Ethol stopped making TEC in the 2 solution powder formulation, and only makes 4 oz bottles of the liquid concentrate. The old 2 solution formula was extremely economical to use, compared to Technidol, and the stock solutions lasted for 2-3 years. A few people who tried the concentrate with Tech Pan, based on my recommendation, got lousy results, so I never switched.

-- Gene Crumpler (hassieguy@att.net), August 22, 2001.

I can highly recommend Efke 25 and 50 als alternative for APX 25. APX had too high contrast anyway for standard situations. The Efke films have a much more usable contrast range and look excellent in Rodinal and R09 (classic Rodinal, which I prefer).

-- Volker Schier (Volker.Schier@fen-net.de), August 31, 2001.

Thanks for the suggestions people, I'll try Efke and Pan f. I have always liked Pan f anyway for it's tonal range, film grain isn't really an issue with 120, it's an obsession for our Minox friends though!!!

all the best, Gary.

-- Gary Holliday (boderectium@yahoo.com), September 06, 2001.

Check ebay under Film. I bought a bunch of APX25 in 120 there a while back and still see it offered on auction on occasion.

-- Ronald Gratz (rkgratz@mtu.edu), October 10, 2001.