I am always interested in new forums so I will be the first to say welcome. I have 4 acres and am trying to get more land. I have 3 horses a cow, goat, and lots of chickens and turkeys.

-- tracy (murfette@stargate.net), July 21, 2001

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Hello every one, so glad to have a new web site, Tom and I live in south Texas, on 10 acres, and we are in our 70"s, I have posted several times on the other forums, and got in trouble now and then, We just do haying, and raise a large garden, do lots of canning. I love reading all the posts, it gets lonely out in the booneys, and gives me something to do, other than work. Hi tracy, what part of the country are you from? Its hot hot down here, Love Irene

-- Irene texas (tkorsborn@cs.com), July 21, 2001.

Hi, live on 1 1/2 acres in michigan and have a various collection of things that keeps me occupy. gardening,hunting,fishing,hiking,woodshop,kids,dog,work,etc.

My interests are like clouds,changing from day to day.

-- TomK (tjk@cac.net), July 21, 2001.

Hi, folks, I'm 56, married with three adult kids (two adopted, but still "mine") I live on 43 acres on Jumpoff Joe Creek, in SW Orygun. Land's mostly steeper than a cow's face, and the "soil" is basically potter's clay reinforced with boulders. Farming's out of the question, but we do have an expanding area of raised bed gardens, whose imported soil grows things miraculously well.

I've been experimenting around with alternative energy for over twenty-five years, and as a retired (almost) builder, have utilized passive solar heating in all my houses.

I'm currently pretty involved in politics (wait, Sojourner, don't delete this yet!); I'm chariman of a neighborhood group, open to all in our valley, called Jumpoff Joe Citizens Advisory Committee, and another coutny-wide group called Josephine County Citizens Council.

The reason I've gotten active, and it's always been totally against my nature, is that this county is growing helter skelter, and many residents here want to try and keep it from turning into another overcrowded, noisy, congested disaster. I've lived here for 26 years, and miss the small town atmosphere which has diminished noticably, particularly in the last five or ten years.

Sojourner, are discussions (even if they turn into arguments) about growth issues, for instance, banned from this forum? I hope that you will reconsider your policy on political discussions.

However, if that 's what you want, hey-it's your forum.

JOJ

-- jumpoff joe (jumpoff@ecoweb.net), July 21, 2001.

Irene - welcome. And don't worry. I know how you feel. I frequently find myself "in trouble", usually with absolutely no idea how I got there.

Tracy - are you trying to add land on to your current homestead, or looking for a totally new place? What do you want to do with the extra land (and how much are you looking for?) As the very first person to post to this forum, you WIN ... MY THANKS! LOL! And the honor of being forever enshrined in the top slot in the archives. LOL! I have to go create some categories now, I can't do that until messages are posted.

Tom, changeable people are most welcome. I myself am not really very changeable, but I can watch folks who are and marvel ...

JOJ, nothing is "banned". Except downright, snake meanness and picking fights. I don't know what you mean by "growth issues", but if you can discuss it without turning this place into a battleground, have at it. When I say no religious or political PROSELYTIZING, I mean confrontational, "yer with us er yer agin' us", argumentative posts whose primary purpose or presentation is to stir up trouble. Talk about anything you want to talk about.

Some ruckus is inevitable - eventually. But do we have to start out that way? I'd like to discourage fighting. Don't know how else to do it except to say so. I'm not going to be delete happy either. I have neither the time nor the interest in being a playground cop.

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 21, 2001.

Hey, Sojo; I have followed your posts at CS and I note that you are very tightly detail orentitated, did you used to be a teacher? From the wording of your posts, and the patience to put a house together I would guess you to be Capricorn.

It is good to have a place to post where we can be ourselves, are your thoughts about this site aiming at homesteading alone, its getting kind of tired for every 10th post to be about someone's sick goat. Also I don,t know who said it but there is a quote that goes like this: Areasonable person changes to fit the world, an unreasonable person tries to get the world to change to them, which is proof that there would be no progress if all people were reasonable.

-- mitch hearn (moopups1@aol.com), July 21, 2001.

Hi, everyone, never formally introduced myself on any forum, but I'm 61, single, 4 kids, 3 grandchildren, still working (real estate), LOVE the land, born in the "boonies" and went to a one-room school (with outside as well as inside bathrooms), learned early to milk by hand and butcher chickens, rabbits, etc. Right now, just bake bread, can, make butter, etc. Am trying to make an old house on 1.6 acres livable so my six cats & I can move in and be at peace in the country. Am a Taurus (stubborn, opinionated, blunt). A few months ago, I thought the internet was just another wacky thing like TV (haven't had TV for 15-20 years, and never will again), but because of real estate (multiple listing services) going online, my broker had it installed here at work, and since I found CSF, I've become addicted. Reading is still my first love, but forums run a close second. I've learned SO much (just when I thought I knew it all, hahaha), and REALLY value the opinions and help I've found. Love you all, and may you all be blessed. Thanks, Sojourner.

-- Bonnie (chilton@stateline-isp.com), July 21, 2001.

Hey, Mitch, sorry, no, I was a computer programmer, and oddly enough you are the first person EVER to accuse me of being detail-oriented! Before you jump on my former profession as proof of my "detail-orientedness", I'll share the following conversation overheard early in my career between my direct supervisor and his boss:

"Well, yeah, I know her code works and is usually bug-free. But she NEVER turns in the flow-charts or psuedo-code!"

"That's because she doesn't generate any."

"WHAT???? But I've seen the code! How could she write it like that without flow-charts and psuedo-code!"

"I have no idea. But it works for her. Do YOU want to be the one to mess with success?"

I'm afraid I was a sort of a gestalt, synergistic programmer. I WANTED an art degree, but my then-boyfriend-now-ex talked me out of it (more or less threatened to dump me if I changed to an art degree, ohhhh, 20-20 hindsight! LOL!)

I'm not a Capricorn, either. Just an opinionated, stubborn Scorpio. Not smart enough to quit when my "help" (whose idea it was to build from scratch) faded out of the picture up here and I found myself on my own with 26 acres of bare land, no well, 3 dogs, 9 cats (inherited 8 from neighbors, we're down to 6 at this point), a teenage son and his not one but TWO electric bass guitars, and a beat up 14' camper. LOL!

I'm so unorganized I once lost an entire pie in this camper the Christmas before last. My son found it when he got back from visiting his dad - right in plain sight (if you were anyone but me, that is). I once lost my keys in the freezer, an incident my son is at pains to remind me of everytime something else disappears. There is a black hole in this camper, so far it has sucked the following items into some alternate universe somewhere:

A phone card, lost in a 90 second period while not moving, neither I nor my son have ever found it.

A bag containing the med for the pneumonia I had at the time, a bottle of prescription cough syrup, sudafed, and miscellaneous small items of interest to someone with a very bad cold, last seen when I took my evening meds, never left the camper between the last sight of it and realizing it had disappeared, turned the camper upside down and never found.

And just last night, without even moving and in 30 seconds or less, the cap to some topical medication I was using totally disappeared and will likely never be seen again.

Personally, I think the pie slipped through the black hole and was rejected by the denizens of the alternate universe and sent back. Because I SWEAR IT WASN'T THERE until my son got back. It was lemon meringue, maybe they wanted apple.

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 21, 2001.

Oh, sorry, about the point of the forum. No, posts don't have to be JUST about the practical aspects of homesteading. But I do think the fact that we are all homesteaders/ruralites should have a strong influence on what gets posted here, our point of view, all that sort of stuff. It's the focus of, at least, MY life. I guess I figure we have a lifestyle in common and I see the Commons as a meeting ground for people who already have a lot in common. So our communications on this forum is going to be colored, but not totally controlled, by that.

Guess that makes it all clear as mud ... LOL!

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 21, 2001.

Hello. I'm glad you've made this, it looks like it started off on the right foot. Most of you already know me from the Countrysdie forum. I haven't been very active there for a while though, so maybe I'll give a small intro.

I'm a wife and mother of four, we live in the beautiful panhandle of Idaho. I raise dairy goats and we also have a few ducks. I have a lot of interests, and never seem to have enough time to pursue them all AND keep up with the housework and everything else! Life is short, I don't want my gravestone to read,"She was a perfect housekeeper and we ate off the floor"!!

I enjoy controversy, especially if it makes me think and reconsider my position on an issue. I don't mind changing my mind about something or trying to see things from another point of view. Sometimes I'll bring up something controversial, not out of spite but to turn the subject over and consider it from all sides, which I think is healthy for anyone. We tend to get our minds stuck in a rut if we don't!

I have a question though, do we have to be liberal to post and visit here?

-- Rebekah (daniel@itss.net), July 21, 2001.

I've been lurking at CS for over a year and have posted a few times there. I am a married mother of 3 girls and live on a small farm in central Oregon.I raise goats and day old calves and have chickens, ducks, a donkey, dog and cat. I raise everything naturally with no chemicals. My husband is a non-farmer/animal type, but he's cute so I keep him around. I wasn't invited to BTS either (sniff) and am glad you started a new forum. Like Rebekah, I like to read the religious/political discussions. Thanks for thaking the time to do this, Sojourner. Looking forward to being here.

-- Julie (julieamc@eagleslair.net), July 21, 2001.

Oops! Sorry Rebekah, didn't mean to put words in your mouth, you didn't say you liked to read religious/political discussions, you said you liked conflict. Thats what I meant to type, but it came out wrong. Sorry. I like conflict too, only between other people in regards to their religious and political beliefs. I'll shut up now before I say something else stupid :-) Too late....

-- Julie (julieamc@eagleslair.net), July 21, 2001.

Controversy! Controversy! Gees, I hate my brain!!!!

-- Julie (julieamc@eagleslair.net), July 21, 2001.

Hi, everyone. Sojourner, I'm glad you started this forum. I, too, liked reading BTS and experienced mixed feelings when they shut it. To introduce myself, I'm a 44yo dairy farmer from Northern NYS. The farm is on the shore of Lake Ontario and it's lovely this time of year. In the winter, of course, it's like living on the edge of the Arctic Ocean, but I won't think of that now . . . :) I have a small herd as dairies go these days, and the two Border Collies and I run the place alone. I was seriously into self-sufficiency when first out of college, but somewhere over time fell away somewhat from that lifestyle, although it still attracts me. I've felt in a lot of ways small farmers aren't too much different from homesteaders, anyway--lifestyle is more important than money, etc. Really glad to be here. Thanks, Sojourner!

-- Jennifer L. (Northern NYS) (jlance@nospammail.com), July 21, 2001.

Hi everyone. I live in south central Missouri. A house in town and 9 acres 5 miles from my house. I have a wonderful husband who dosn't have much interest in homsteading but got me 9 acres because I love the land. My oldest a daughter passed away 2 1/2 years ago and my youngest a son 18 is getting married July 28 he picked a sweetheart of a girl. I have a australian shepard and two blue healers. My babys now. I spoil them rotten. Dose any one else put a ausalatting fan on the carport to keep there dogs cooler and keep the flys from bitting them. I get teased alot for doing that. I love to garden tho the weeds do win by aug. haha. I do my own canning from the garden. I love to quilt. I quilt by hand. I tole paint, crochet, knit and just about anything else. I am into reading pioneer books of the wagons west journy. You can see my web page at http://www.geocities.com/c3ranch97/

-- Teresa (c3ranch@socket.net), July 21, 2001.

Teresa -- I love your Web page. Your land looks beautiful.

-- Bethany (farewell@tropicalstorm.com), July 21, 2001.

Havent checked it all out but thought i would say hey...Missouri here, married , We have 40 acres and a cabin just waiting for us to retire to...soon as momma is done working....Retired USAF

-- Doc (thisisdoc@aol.com), July 21, 2001.

Yahoo. forever in the first achive. I feel so privliged. I am hoping that my neighbor will sell some of his land. Hoping for atleast 8 more acres. When all the kids are grown, 5 more years I would love to move to someplace like Montana. I am in Northwesern Pa now. Very rural but keeps growing everyday. The older I get the more I like my horses[LOL] Tracy

-- tracy (murfette@stargate.net), July 21, 2001.

Sojourner..........go for it!....... Guess I'm not "normal"......the way that the> corporation< would would prefer.....have to sadly shake my head at the way the sheeple are being led...... I saw bts for a short time, very seldom posting, then went over to the energy fair in Wi....I get back home and its gone! No pass key was offered, nor would I know where to ask for one.....Ok so be it.. If they want to keep the door closed.......so be it!.......movin' on. My little chunk of land /pv & wind genny system..are doin' just fine in northern lower Mi. luck to ya gal..........Jim

-- Jim-mi (hartalteng@voyager.net), July 21, 2001.

hi, I am Lexi, I live on a farm in north-east KY. WE run cattle and do farm chores, which never end. Glad to be on board. All our children are grown, but two live on the farm with us. We are retirement age, but the chores haven't let us sign up yet.

-- Lexi Green (whitestone11@hotmail.com), July 21, 2001.

Hi. I only checked out bts a few times, so I don't really know what I'm missing there. I have enjoyed your responses on cs, Sojourner, so we'll see what you can orchestrate here! I'm pushing 40, and my husband and 2 kids (5&8)and I live on 3 acres in a suburb in the country in Maine (yes, it's as odd as it sounds). I annoy my neighbors no end by having a ewe, 2 milk goats, and chickens. I also have a severe addiction to gardening in all forms. I have a terrible habit of engaging my mouth more quickly than my brain, so occasionally I blurt out things that I shouldn't oughta. At least on the internet, I have the advantage of being a poor typist, so it takes me a few seconds longer to type it out than it would to say it....seconds to think and delete!!

-- Sheryl in Me (radams@sacoriver.net), July 21, 2001.

Well, well, yet another forum, it is good, I get weary of the same old stuff. We are selling our 42 acre farm, ( just down the road from Jump off Joe) and moving back south to a 10 acre place. Anybody need some used farm equipment? I am keeping my DR Powerwagon tho.

-- hendo (redgate@echoweb.net), July 22, 2001.

Hi All, Been mostly lurking at the CS Forum. I usually only post when the topic is something that really gets me interested, like strawbale construction or PV alternative energy. We live in south central KY on 76 acres and are totally off the grid. We've only been here for 3 years (previously Washington state) so we are still building. There was nothing but land when we moved here. It has been a wonderful adventure. I can appreciate how tough it is to live in your 14' camper, Sojourner. We lived in a 30' trailer and by the time the house was done it had shrunk to 8'. Thanks for starting this new forum. We will drop by regularly. Regards, Doug & Jo

-- Doug in KY (toadshutes@yahoo.com), July 22, 2001.

Originally came to the forums to get some info about goats and then started reading other postings. What a wonderful window on the world - lots of folks out there who think along the same lines as I do - quess I'm not so different after all!!. I live in Northern Alberta on 160 acres with goats and horses. Also run a business with the better half, have all kinds of interests but not much time to devote to any of them. Born and raised on the farm. lived in city for 20 years or so, and here I am - back to my roots and loving every minute of it. Just wish I was 20 years younger - brain says I'm 16 and my body says "don't think so" LOL.

Here's a thought that I would like some feedback on:

When we bought this land, it was pretty raw; we broke a further 80 acres, dug a large dugout, did some fencing, put up a large shop, etc. and then heard some neighbourhood comments like "well, you can do all that if you have money". Yes, it takes a little cash, but we also put the inprovements before pleasure. This community is roughly 100 years old and probably 4 generations have come and gone and yet there are hardly any established farm sites - mostly just mobile homes plunked down on the land with little or no outbuildings.

I feel some resentment from our neighbours about what we have accomplished in the year since we bought this place; yet, I don't understand why they are running around to rodeos, going to the city to shop for the weekends, buying toys (RV's, quad's, etc) instead of putting the time and money into their property.

Quess this is pretty rambling (I'm not real good at putting thoughts into words but I hope you will get the drift). Is it just me or are there others out there who feel like I do??

Kari

-- Kari (wildcatt@telusplanet.net), July 22, 2001.

Hey there, everyone! A huge thanks to Sojourner for this forum. I now have been living in Indiana for the last few months. As for right now, we're in town, but hopefully will find some land. Moved from a hilltop in Tennessee, and I sill miss the privacy. Can you say hermit?! hee hee Have a garden in the backyard and one at my sisters, or I couldn't stand living in town! Been married for 19 years and have one daughter and 2 dogs. Thanks again Sojourner for this forum.

-- Annie (mistletoe@kconline.com), July 22, 2001.

Rebekah, no you don't HAVE to be liberal, but I have to admit I hope the forum takes a liberal slant. But I don't want anyone to feel that means they should be excluded or shouldn't post. Frankly, if we all play nice, it shouldn't make a difference one way or another what your political leanings are.

Julie, don't hate your brain! LOL! I know how you feel. Lately I find myself groping for the strangest words (or strangely groping for the most ordinary of words, I guess is more like it). The other day I was talking to a friend about hauling something, and said "I'll have to get a ...." and stopped dead, just froze as the word I wanted escaped, hid, and possibly dove into an alternate universe to make sure it would continue to elude me. She said "A what?" I couldn't even describe at first! "You know, one of those ... things .... you hook up to the back of the truck ... and put stuff in ..." "Oh, you mean a TRAILER?"

LOL!

Controversy is not necessarily a bad thing. I like a lively discussion myself. What I DON'T like is when folks start crossing the line and sliding into combat mode. I hope we can agree sometimes, but when we don't, I hope we can at least agree to disagree.

Welcome.

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 22, 2001.

Jennifer, way too cold for me! I admire your intestinal fortitude.

Teresa, I am soooo jealous! You live in roughly the same area I do, yet your garden looks so much better! Last year, not only did my tomatoes NOT get 9' tall, I didn't even get any fruit to speak of. Of course, I was trying to keep 70x100 of garden watered and weeded, and build a house, and build a chicken coop ... this year I just planted a dozen or so maters, about the same number of peppers, a few cabbage, and have let it go at that. It's doing much better than last year but still not so hot. NEXT year I am putting in permanent beds and automatic watering (irrigro hose and a timer). But between working all day, building, and trying to mow the dadblasted pasture with a DR Trimmer/mower in this !*@#&!@ heat, I've really got my hands full. I have only watered twice the whole season, but am moving to twice weekly. It would be better if I could mow and mulch, but... maybe next year it will work out better. LOL!

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 22, 2001.

Jim, I know what you mean. I was a corporate wage slave for 15 years, and I never did fit in. When I told someone at my last job that I was quitting and moving to MO, he said "Figures." "What do you mean?"

"Figures YOU would be moving to the "Show-Me" state."

LOL! See what happens when you ask too many questions?

These people were making 6 figures, and many of their spouses were also making 6 figures or close to. Yet they lived in fear for their jobs, because they were barely making the payments on all their debt. They owed huge mortgages, drove Lexus' and ATVs that weren't paid for, owed on boats and RVs and vacation homes, owed on credit cards, vacations, furniture. Not being the ambitious type, I didn't make near what they did - but I had more disposable income. Because I had no debt. These people by and large spent little or no time with their kids, and then wondered how come the kids turned out to be troublesome teens, liars, thieves, alcoholics and drug addicts as adults. I mean that literally. The woman who was my direct supervisor had three no good grown kids and couldn't figure out why. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that she revealed (in telling me I should do this too) that when they were little and got sick she hired babysitters to stay with them rather than stay home to care for them herself, because after all the job must come first?

Like lemmings, marching unquestioningly to their doom. LOL!

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 22, 2001.

Lexi, I consider this my retirement. However, when I first decided to become retired, I didn't know it actually meant working all day and getting tired over and over and over again ... LOL!

Doc, another show me stater is always welcome.

Sheryl, I find my mouth is frequently engaged and running before my common sense can kick in with the governors. Unfortunately, I AM an excellent typist, so that doesn't help. Nothing can save me from myself ... LOL!

Hendo, how far south is "back south"?

Doug, you're scaring me. According to my calculations, that means my camper is now ... 3.7 feet long. That explains a lot of things ...

Annie, I was born in Indiana. Tons of family in Richmond and New Castle. Hope you find some land you like soon.

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 22, 2001.

Kari sez: "I feel some resentment from our neighbours about what we have accomplished in the year since we bought this place; yet, I don't understand why they are running around to rodeos, going to the city to shop for the weekends, buying toys (RV's, quad's, etc) instead of putting the time and money into their property. "

I know exactly what you mean. I hear people talk about how they can't afford to buy land, yet they own new cars, RVs, expensive toys out the yin-yang. They eat out constantly, replace their furniture every couple of years, and constantly replace perfectly good clothes.

I drive a 13 year old ford that was wrecked and the front end can't be aligned (didn't know that when I bought it). In addition I own a 21 year old Plymouth Champ and a 23 year old Ford Van. I'm living in a 14' camper with no bathroom facilities and what I facetiously refer to as "running water" (you run out to the hydrant by the well to get it). I buy clothes from WalMart, not Macy's or even Penny's, and I wear them until they have holes in places that make them too indecent even to wear in the garden.

I know people who inherited property free and clear, and promptly took out a mortgage on it to pay off other debt - and then ran up more debt! With two working people in the family. It's just me here, and my 16 year old son who (financially ONLY) is a net loss.

Yet I constantly hear about how "lucky" I am as I struggle on, building a house and all.

Go figure ...

-- Sojourner (notime4@summer.spam), July 22, 2001.

Sojourner, That was a really neat response........corp. /slave 6 figures ......etc.etc......yup yup.....all of the above! I have to be careful when dealing with the corp. slaves in my little business........They don't really need to know that I prefer a different drummer than that prescribed by the<<<<<< Hark!! whats that sound??????...must be the dam lemmings on the march!!!!

-- Jim-mi (hartalteng@voyager.net), July 22, 2001.

Hi I'm Nancy I live in NC. I've been reading at the CS forum for a long time I never posted very much because... I'm still a wannabee. I'm married (16yrs) and have 2 boys (12&14) and although we live in the country we made the mistake of building in a subdivision. At the time it didn't matter but then I discovered CS mag and everything changed. Now I want everything chickens, rabbits, goats, etc. I'm learning all I can and have a nice size garden so some day we'll get there. Thanks for starting this forum Sojourner!

-- Nan (graf_nan@hotmail.com), July 22, 2001.

Nancy, I live in a subdivision in the country also. I'm fortunate enough to have 3 acres and to be the end lot. My direct neighbors are very easy-going, but when I first decided to get build my barn and get livestock (which requires special permitting with the town) several other neighbors in the subdivision pitched a fit. However, the permitting process did not require that I please all of the people all of the time, and my subdivision association has no control over what landowners can do on their own property (only on what is done in the common areas), so here I am with critters. The kids of my testy neighbors all love to come down and see the critters. I've bribed the tolerant neighbors with goat cheese, fresh eggs and honey, and they all seem copacetic with what I do. The rest of them can go jump in a lake. None of the whiney ones even live on my street!!! I have no idea how anything I do could possibly adversely affect them! Don't give up just because your situation isn't ideal...it may not be as bad as you think!

-- Sheryl in ME (Radams@sacoriver.net), July 22, 2001.

Hello, hope it's not too late to join in. We lived in the Colorado mountains, off-grid, on 56 acres for over 4 years. Transport was by snowmobile in the winter when the snow got too deep, usually about 3 miles, sometimes more, sometimes less. Out of the blue, dh got a job offer which he accepted back down in C. Springs. We moved to this farm in November with all the animals (mostly fiber goats and sheep) and have added a few (horses) since then. Now, we are trying to adjust to too many bugs, too much heat, and not enough infrastructure (fencing, shelters, drives, etc.) It was bare farm land too close to what passes for a small river here. We have three kids, 17, 15, and 14, all homeschooled. Getting access to computers has been a real eye opener for them. Hard to get them off to let me have some fun. Good luck with your new forum.

-- Sandra in CO (ColoradoDaisyMae@aol.com), July 23, 2001.

Hi, Married, 1 daughter (7), 2-dogs, 6 puppies, 1 kitten that thinks she's a puppy. Live outskirts of rural town, 38 miles from "big city" Self-reliant attitudes prevail here on the homestead.

Thanks Sojourner for new forum.

-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), July 25, 2001.

Hello, We are Wanna-be-farm as in want to be a farm. We are Tom,Sherry and 3 kids. We raise various critters. Sherry does crafts,participates in (and wins) the county fair. We are debt free and live on 100 year old family land. I tried cs but it didn't work. We are to conservative. I never felt welcomed to the club. I would like to find a place where I can ask or answer a question and feel like you are interested. I don't have opinions anymore, they are not popular. Anyway I hope this can work we need a good homesteading site.

-- Tom (Calfarm@msn.com), July 28, 2001.

Hi-de-ho! there neighbors, Thumper here, I live in OKC right now we are looking for about a 100 acres, some where 'bout 20 miles from Asher OK,[any direction] have land between Dibble OK and Chichasha Ok but it too small for our needs. So far this forum reads great.

Lets see.......something a bit more personal to share......... uuummmmm......The most favorite remark I ever heard about myself [it was second hand at a homeschool meeting] was..... ....."she told me about you, she said your different"...... [then the lady got a funny look on her face and tryed to explain it wasn't in a bad way.} In fact I found it so complimentary, I could have cried. And I may be the most un-tipical christian you will ever meet.

-- Thumper (slrldr@aol.com), July 30, 2001.