Signal locations between Winter Park and Jacksonville : LUSENET : ACL and SAL Railroads Historical Society : One Thread

I am involved in determining where various signals are located on the SCL/CSX line from Winter Park, FL to Jacksonville, FL for the Microsoft Train Simulator. We are trying to make the simulation of the line as real as possible and it would save me a world of time if I had a better idea where to find the signals so I could photograph them. Then, our team member laying track will be able to accurately place the signals - hopefully. Does anyone know of any publications that might have such information? Thank you.

-- Bill Cline (, June 21, 2001


Bill, I have a copy of Wildwood/Sanford/Tampa/Miami Territory: Signals,crossings, permanent speed restrictions guide compiles by one of our UTU local chairmen, it comprises the above named territories showing milepost locations for all signals, crossings, DD's, overpasses, speed restrictions for each direction. It also lists bridges and distances between multiple crossings to help trains if necessary to stop.

If you give me a street address offline to my email, I will be glad to sent it off to you for your MSTS project. Any other help needed, just ask.

-- Walt Rogers (, February 07, 2002.

Would the ACL-SAL Historical Society have any track plans that cover the A-Line between Tampa and Jacksonville?

We have completed South Orlando and Taft areas pretty thoroughly but will need explicit track diagrams from Sanford North and from Orlando to Tampa. If the cost is relatively nominal, I would be happy to pay for copying them.

And the fellow running the show for our MSTS A-Line addon, it *will* be free to members of the Society who might desire it for their own computers.

Bill Cline

-- Bill Cline (, June 23, 2001.

Hi Carey,

I'll talk to my "boss". I'm sure he would be interested in talking to some of you about the A-Line. Incidentally, I'm pretty certain he plans on making the finished product available as freeware for MSTS. We have exciting plans for it and the initial track layout he has done is really extraordinary.

BTW, are most of your membership living in Central Florida?


-- Bill Cline (, June 22, 2001.

Bill, I think all of us with Microsoft Train Simulator would be very interested in your finished product. Please keep us advised if you should decide to make it available.

-- Carey Stevens (, June 22, 2001.


The courteous and very prompt response I got to my question really shows what a great group you have here!

Walt, if you can find a copy of those track profiles, my A-Line group would be very indebted to you. Please advise cost and how we could arrange pickup. If you prefer, you can send as an attachment to email. I'm on Road Runner cable so big downloads don't faze me.



-- Bill Cline (, June 22, 2001.

Bill, we have had several engineer trainees riding the s-line as well as the a-line and the UTU has provided them with track profiles showing the milepost, speed, siding locations as well as intermediate signals (very important). I will see if I can dig one up for you.

-- Walt Rogers (, June 22, 2001.

Bill, Go to for timetables of the CSX lines including siding locations (where there will be signals). Many of the signal locations will be in the "boonies" and not easily accessable by car and going along the line on foot will be tresspassing. I suggest that you get on Amtrak, stand at the back door with your camera and you will get all the signals you want. This will work well for the line through Orlando since the trains go this way in day light.

-- Jim Coviello (, June 22, 2001.

The ACL Condensed Profile, available from the Society, shows the approximate location of the signals as of Jan. 1, 1953. Based on 1" equals 4000 feet, you could scale them off. Bear in mind, though, that ACL or SCL may have respaced the signals after 1953. As trains got longer, the 50's style spacing didn't allow sufficient braking distance.

-- Harry Bundy (, June 21, 2001.

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