An issue has been raised regarding the timestamp of INP files. Is it illegal to accumulate a bunch of recordings (say over a period of weeks/months) and then upload them all at once?

For all tourneys we require INPs to be submitted within 2 days (48 hours). Should this same rule also apply to game recordings submitted to REGULAR MARP?

My thought is no change to this rule. Now let's here your opinions!

-- ***PL*** (laffaye@mail.com), June 19, 2001

Answers

Just to be clear, the tourney rule won't change. The question is whether to introduce this as a rule to REGULAR MARP...

-- ***PL*** (laffaye@mail.com), June 19, 2001.

I personally don't see how submitting a 4 month old inp is a problem. It's no different than one that was submitted four months ago. Otherwise, we might as well purge all recordings over a couple of months old... don't see that happening, do you?

I vote for no change.

-- Barry Rodewald (bsr@hnpl.net), June 20, 2001.

There's absolutely no reason to ban .inps that are older than their submission date... whenever a person wants to upload it, that's their business... as long as it plays back with the specified version, I don't see what the problem is.

-BBH

-- BBH (lordbbh@aol.com), June 20, 2001.

Given that there is no time limit in which to respond to a recording who really cares how long ago it was made as long as it plays back with the version it was recorded with.

In the good old days it was always interesting to see someone upload a whole lot of new scores to reclaim 1st place..... of course with the current lead that Matt has it's not likely to have that affect again for some time. :)

BeeJay.

-- BeeJay (mamester@i4free.co.nz), June 20, 2001.

When you compete on a game with someone, it's irritating if he holds hes submissions long after you've finished playing the game. Then suddenly, bang! You're dead. This seems a bit unfair approach to competition. That is the only reasoning I can see behind this Rule change. Anyway he could make a clean kill by just playing a month, and after that starting to record inps, how can you fight that?

I wouldn't like to check timestamps on my recordings, neither anyone elses. +I don't have internet connection availeble all the time. Keep it as it is.

Pat, a good rule vote would be to change leaderboard. Seems that everyone agrees lb doesn't currently have anything to do with playing skills. This "compound -15%" sucks, you get points even if youre 20th...or more.

I had a thought that 10,3,1 x percentage(average)would be nice: but that would lead to deleting scores that you're proud of(but lower your average). How about current points X average?? Or maybe like: Current system, but 1.) increasing 15% for example to 40% 2.)Give no points for places under 3!!!!

Then again back to 10,3,1 could be ok

Gotta go, haven't played mame for a week...

-- Tommi (tiihoto@hotmail.com), June 20, 2001.

There's no reason to delete a person's recording if there's a lag between when they played and when they submit. It might be irritating to the other player, as Tommi said, but that's just tough. I haven't found a game yet where a few plays after a long absence didn't bring back those old skills, and often a few new ones.

Brian

-- Brian McLean (bmclean84@hotmail.com), June 20, 2001.

Whatīs the diference if I send one record today,tomorow or next week. The inp no change, in tounament thatīs ok. but in regular marp this is no necessary. my vote is for change this rule. my opnion is that the peoples send your inp in one month to send the inp. 48 hours is a little time.

-- JLr (jlnovaes@unb.br), June 20, 2001.

I make the words of JLr my words too. ;)

-- INNUENDO (funit@bol.com.br), June 20, 2001.

I agree for what Jlr told...

-- Kale (angelo.salese@tin.it), June 20, 2001.

Let's keep it as it is. It doesn't matter how old the recording is in my opinion.

About all this leaderboard talk. Many months ago (in Mirc) I suggested to have 3 leaderboards. One with the points, one with the average and an overall leaderboard made out of both those other leaderboards. I would suggest giving points to the top 100 on both charts, like 100,99,98 aso. This would probably put BBH on top of the overall leaderboard with 200 points and would show who's the best overall players. That way crap players like me (call me lamer if you like) can enjoy and upload my personal best in all games I like.

It's just an idea, but I think it would solve the problem. Players can decide themself what they want to go for, many points, good average or the ultimate combination of both.

Of course there had to be some rules regarding the average leaderboard, that you won't enter it before you've made a certain number of uploads. Otherwise a player could make one unbeatable first place and be on top with 100%.

I think it would be worth thinking about this idea.

What's you guys opinion on this?

Bye.

-- Frankie (frankie@image.dk), June 20, 2001.

Keeping it as it is for tournament and regulation makes sense. In a tournament you are denied surprising someone else by uploading a bunch of old recordings in the last few days of the deadline because that isn't fair to other players who could beat those scores if they have the time to play (between when the recording was made and when the person uploaded them) and had known what the scores were. In regular marp, you don't have a deadline for beating newly uploaded scores; you have for eternity to beat them. So there should be no limit on when scores need be uploaded from when they are recorded.

-- Chad (churritz@cts.com), June 20, 2001.

I make the word of Chad my words. :)))))

-- JLr (jlnovaes@unb.br), June 21, 2001.

Keep it as it is

-- phil (plamat@club-internet.fr), June 21, 2001.

As long as there is not a tourney, I donīt see any reason with a time limit on the recordings.

-- QRS (qrs@telia.com), June 21, 2001.

Here's my idea of ranking:

1st: 100 2nd: 93 3rd: 87 4th: 83 5th: 79 6th: 76 7th: 73 8th: 70 9th: 68 10th: 66 11th: 64 12th: 62 13th: 60 14th: 58 ... 33rd: 20 34th: 18 35th: 17 36th: 16 37th: 15 38th: 14 ... 49th: 3 50th: 2 51st-100th: 1 101st-250th: 0.5 251st and lower: 0.25

This way, everyone gets points.

-- 76ersfan (dtaber@safeplace.net), July 19, 2001.