Jenna Bush Uses Fake ID to Try to Buy Alcohol

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Police: Bush's Kid Tried to Buy Booze

The Associated Press Wednesday, May 30, 2001; 12:50 p.m. EDT

AUSTIN, Texas –– President Bush's 19-year-old daughter, Jenna, tried to purchase alcohol at a restaurant using someone else's identification card, police said Wednesday.

Police were called to Chuy's Mexican restaurant in south Austin on Tuesday night as Jenna Bush was attempting to buy alcohol, police spokesman Kevin Buchman said. No other details were immediately available, but a statement was being prepared, he said.

The legal drinking age in Texas is 21.

Jenna Bush's attorney, William P. Allison, could not be reached, and White House officials had no immediate comment.

Mark Dore, a manager at restaurant, said he could not comment and referred all questions to the corporate offices. Messages left there by The Associated Press were not immediately returned.

Less than a month ago, Jenna Bush pleaded no contest to a charge of being a minor in possession of alcohol in connection with another incident.

The no contest plea stemmed from a ticket police issued while checking for minors in possession of alcohol at nightclubs along the popular East Sixth Street entertainment district on April 27.

She was ordered to pay $51.25 in court costs, serve eight hours of community service and attend six hours of alcohol awareness classes.

Jenna Bush is a student at the University of Texas in Austin.

Her twin sister, Barbara, attends Yale University.

© Copyright 2001 The Associated Press

-- Like father, like daughter (jenna@in.news), May 30, 2001

Answers

Damn. You would think she would have learned by now how much attention every mistake gets.

Still, I don't think this is her father's fault. Jenna Bush is nineteen years old and by all accounts capable of making her own decisions, bad as they might be.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 30, 2001.


I think it's time to put the blame for Jenna's misdeeds where it belongs - on rotten Bill Clinton. Where do you suppose she got the idea that members of the First Family could break the law.

-- Peter Errington (petere@ricochet.net), May 30, 2001.

What are we paying the Secret Service agents to do? Can't they, as adults legally charged with her safety, prevent her from being served alcohol?

-- helen (fire@the.ss), May 30, 2001.

Damn good question Helen.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 30, 2001.

"Where do you suppose she got the idea that members of the First Family could break the law."

Her Dad?

-- her Dad is an a-hole (she is rebelling @ to piss. him off), May 30, 2001.



Bush daughter used phony ID in new alcohol incident, police say

May 30, 2001 Posted: 1:29 PM EDT (1729 GMT)

AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- Jenna Bush, one of President Bush's 19-year-old twin daughters, attempted to buy alcohol Tuesday night at a restaurant here with someone else's identification, a police spokeswoman said.

"She was attempting to purchase alcohol with a valid identification that was not hers," said Laura Albrecht, the police spokeswoman.

She said police responded to a call at Chuey's Mexican restaurant but she could not say how the situation was ultimately handled.

"She wasn't cited. She was not arrested," said Sally Muir, another public information officer. "It's still being investigated. It's not a done deal."

In Washington, the White House declined to comment, saying it was a family matter. Calls to the restaurant and Bush's attorney were not immediately returned.

A senior administration official told CNN that a "not happy" President Bush called his daughter from California Wednesday morning to discuss the incident

Jenna Bush recently pleaded no contest to alcohol possession by a minor and was ordered to take an alcohol awareness class and complete eight hours of community service.

That citation stemmed from an early morning incident on April 27, when plainclothes officers witnessed Bush, a freshman at the University at Texas at Austin, and an unnamed friend drinking alcohol in the nightclub Cheers Shot Bar, located on Austin's popular Sixth Street.

The two girls were given a citation for possession of alcohol for someone under the legal drinking age of 21.

Austin Community Court Judge Elisabeth Earle ordered Bush to pay $51.25 in court costs, attend a six-hour alcohol awareness class and complete eight hours of community service.

Bush has until July 18 to complete the order. If she complies, the offense would be dropped from her permanent record. If she fails to comply, the prosecutor could issue a warrant for her arrest and the misdemeanor offense would go on her record, said Earle.

-- (this is a felony @ arrest her. now!), May 30, 2001.


This young lady must not be very bright to think that, as daughter of the former govenor of Texas and now president of the US, she wouldn't be recognized by someone.

She needs a good spanking and a dose of that old time religion to set her on the straight and narrow.

-- Polly Wanna Cracker? (polly@wanna.cracker), May 30, 2001.


I thought Dumbya said he was going to restore dignity to the Whitehouse!!

These repeated attempts by his daughter to break the law are certainly worse than getting a blow job. This is turning into a scandal worse than Monicagate, Dumbya had better get a handle on it quick!

-- (Dumbya's holier-than-thou image @ going down the shitter. fast), May 30, 2001.


"What are we paying the Secret Service agents to do? Can't they, as adults legally charged with her safety, prevent her from being served alcohol?"

While passed out on the floor Helen? Come-on get with it.

-- (bush@twofaced.scum), May 30, 2001.


Where do you suppose she got the idea that members of the First Family could break the law."

Her grandfather.

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 30, 2001.



Wait 'til the silly wench manages to get herself pregnant. Then we'll see daddy make a dramatic about-face on the abortion issue.

-- Wait (Just@Wait.com), May 30, 2001.

OK, lets see what we have here:

(1). Sitting President of the United States gets his penis sucked by a 21 year-old intern while in the Oval Office.

(2). 19 year-old daughter of a sitting President of the United States attempts to buy alcohol with false I.D.

Can there be even one person on this planet that would compare these two incidents?

-- Telinet (like@it.is), May 30, 2001.


I saw a Secret Service interview after the first incident and they stated that their job responsibility was to keep her safe, not to enforce local laws.

ie. it's probably out of their jurisdiction...

-- The Toner (the.toner@home.com), May 30, 2001.


I bet Ted Kennedy has never touched alcohol.

-- potty mouth (wash@with.soap), May 30, 2001.

"OK, lets see what we have here:

(1). Sitting President of the United States gets his penis sucked by a 21 year-old intern while in the Oval Office.

(2). 19 year-old daughter of a sitting President of the United States attempts to buy alcohol with false I.D.

Can there be even one person on this planet that would compare these two incidents?

-- Telinet (like@it.is), May 30, 2001."

Yes, I will compare them for you. They are not even close to being in the same ballpark.

Clinton was doing personal business in the Oval Office, but it was not a violation of the law. In fact it was very personal and presented no harm to anyone else, so the public should not even have found out about it, let alone be concerned.

The Bush family on the other hand, has a long-standing history of breaking laws and practicing corruption to the detriment of other innocent people. Dumbya has set an example for his children, and they are following it because it is what they learned by observing their so-called role models. Jenna thinks that she is an exception to the laws because she is a Bush. She thinks she can endanger the lives of innocent people by driving around under the influence as a minor, she can put establishments at risk of losing their alcohol license because she thinks she should be served as a minor because she is above the law.

Truly pitiful, pathetic behavior, but it is all that can be expected from the offspring of a crooked lying bastard scum.

-- (Bush Family @ sneaky, lying, crooked, rotten, filthy, scum. weasels), May 30, 2001.



Clinton was doing personal business in the Oval Office, but it was not a violation of the law. In fact it was very personal and presented no harm to anyone else, so the public should not even have found out about it, let alone be concerned.

No, it was not a violation of the law. It was a violation of the public trust. Clinton's acts could have led to blackmail, espionage or his own assination. Did he really know who was sucking his dick? (in the oval office with his family sleeping upstairs).

You can't blame GWB for his adult daughter's adolescent behavior.

-- (Paracelsus@Pb.Au), May 31, 2001.


WITNESS THE SCUMLINESS OF THE TYPICAL REPUGLIGOON HYPOCRISY. WHEN CLINTON HAS AN AFFAIR, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO KNOW ALL OF THE DETAILS. IN FACT THEY SPEND $50 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND SEVERAL YEARS OF WASTED WORK TIME TO INVESTIGATE HIS PRIVATE MATTERS.

BUT WHEN A MEMBER OF THE FIRST FAMILY IS CAUGHT IN REPEATED ATTEMPTS TO BREAK THE LAW, IT IS "A PRIVATE MATTER"!! NONE OF US ARE ENTITLED TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, IT SHOULD BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. HIS DAUGHTERS SHOULD NEVER BE ARRESTED FOR CRIMES BECAUSE THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW.

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Wednesday May 30 4:20 PM ET

Bush Daughters in New Underage Drinking Probe

By Hilary Hylton

AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s twin teen-age daughters are under investigation for allegedly trying to buy alcohol illegally, Austin police said on Wednesday, in the second such brush with the law for one of them in just a few weeks.

In the latest incident, police are investigating allegations that Jenna and Barbara Bush, both 19, tried to buy alcohol at a Mexican restaurant in Austin on Tuesday. Texas law prohibits anyone under the age of 21 from buying or drinking alcohol.

The allegations were made by the restaurant manager who called police to the premises, police said in a brief statement.

``As no offense was witnessed by (police) officers, following routine procedures, further investigation is required to determine if any charges will be filed,'' the statement said.

Earlier on Wednesday a police spokeswoman said Jenna Bush had tried to buy alcohol at the restaurant by using a valid identification card that belonged to someone else. The spokeswoman made no mention of Jenna's twin, Barbara.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) declined to comment on the incident, saying it was a ``private family matter.''

``I just don't talk about anything dealing with family, a private family matter,'' said Fleischer, who was in Sequoia National Park with the president at the end of a California visit.

It was Jenna Bush's second brush with the law in an alcohol-related incident in the space of a few weeks.

Jenna Bush, a freshman at the University of Texas in Austin, pleaded no contest on May 16 to the misdemeanor charge of being a minor in possession of alcohol.

On April 26, undercover police officers ticketed Jenna Bush after they found her drinking beer in a bar in Austin's popular Sixth Street entertainment district during a check for underage drinkers.

Municipal Court Judge Elisabeth Earle ordered her to perform eight hours of community service, take a six-hour alcohol awareness course and pay $51.25 in court fees.

Barbara Bush attends Yale University, in New Haven, Connecticut.

-- (PENISES ARE PRIVATE @ CRIMINALS. ARE NOT), May 31, 2001.


Hilarious!

The best that you Clinton suck-ups can do is to whine about possesion of alcohol by a nineteen year old daughter of the President. Not the President doing anything illegal (like perjury) mind you, but his daughter. That really burns you up, doesn't it? LOL!

The legal age to drink ought to be eighteen, anyway, not twenty-one.

By the way Clinton fans, I haven't heard much lately about Denise Rich's immunity deal. Calm before the storm? LOL.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 31, 2001.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation

Course Bill was the Prez. As such, he understood he had to be held to higher standards. Being a public official one expects more scrutiny, as it should be. Unfortunately balancing this situation has to be trust in the system and a respect by those holding positions of power. Judgements have to be made as to importance to the public good.

For eight years the Republicans waged a multifaceted assualt upon the President of the United States. The goal was simple, unseat a duly elected official of the people. They could not stop policies they did not like, so they resorted to destroying the man and anybody around him.

Having failed to unseat Clinton, they then chose to do everything in their power to make certain even a Presidential Election would not reflect the will of the People. These Republicans do not care one ioda about rights, the Constituion, or much of anything American. It is about THEIR agenda and to hell with the People and America.

Much has been made of late that the Democrats have no balls. That they should be attacking GW Bush openly. Many of the complaints are legitimate, many are not. While it maybe fun to attack a person, it should not become the guiding force for America.

Do we want a government run like this place?

Do we want Senator's leaders like a Trent Lott who openly whine against BALANCE created by the Jeffords move? Who instead of honoring the balance, attack the man as a whore, a defector against the Reich.

Well do we? I don't, how about you?

-- (joepublic@unks.board), May 31, 2001.


J,

You are clear this involved BOTH the Bush girls are you not?

And like you J, I share your concerns about this being rather silly.

I would lay blame at the feet of YOUR party. How does it feel to be wearing the shoes now?

-- (joepublic@unks.board), May 31, 2001.


"Clinton was doing personal business in the Oval Office, but it was not a violation of the law. In fact it was very personal and presented no harm to anyone else, so the public should not even have found out about it, let alone be concerned."

WRONG! This harmed not only his family, but, because of computers in the classroom, our children were exposed to all the hoopla and reporting of his "actions" while in office. I for one didn't appreciate my third grader knowing about the semen stained dress or the use of a cigar for something other than smoking.Just say "No" to drugs and tobacco works. To really make a statement though, you should have done "it" in a SUV and not the oval office. That really would have made a point.

Thank you, so much Bill and Al for making sure there was a computer in every classroom. Can't thank you enough.And thanks for saving our school districts money for sex education classes, I for one appreciate your economically sound decisions.How were the kids going to learn what constituted "sex" and the many different meanings of the word "is".

Yes, Mr. ex-president. I hope that life gives to you what you so richly deserve. You truly were a man of vision.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 31, 2001.


"Clinton was doing personal business in the Oval Office, but it was not a violation of the law."

Oh? Are you absolutely certain about that? Adultery is illegal in many jurisdictions in the US, and so's oral sodomy. I'm not making any value judgments either way about what our ex-president did, but you may be very, very wrong when you make that statement. Better do some legal fact-checking, troll.

On a completely unrelated matter, Jenna Bush is a dumbshit because she apparently hasn't gotten the message that Austin watering holes know all too well who she is and that she's underage. If I were serving drinks at an Austin restaurant or bar and I recognized her, I'd tell her "no way" right upfront. If she got pissed off and left, fine. We'd still have our liquor license. But if she's so set on getting liquored up, then maybe she needs to get some less-well-known friends to buy the booze, and then they can mix up their own drinks in one of their apartments. But Jenna should use a designated driver or a taxi. Don't want her to get a DUI like her daddy did.

Jenna's also a dumbshit because Chuy's is crap. The tourists think the food is neato-peachy-keen and the decor is ultra-cool-kitschy, but most of the locals know better. There are plenty of hole-in-the- wall places in Austin where you either have to speak Spanish or point to place your order, and the food's better and less expensive than Chuy's.

I would also like to observe that while Chelsea Clinton is not the best-looking mannequin in the window, at least her parents raised her right. She doesn't cause any stink, and she gets good grades, daddy's Oval Office blowjobs notwithstanding. Give me sober, studious Chelsea over drunken, dimwitted Jenna any day for a daughter.

-- You're Not Getting My Wallet (jennas.sister.barbara@is.better.looking.com), May 31, 2001.


Anoth er story on this issue

What on earth does Bill Clinton have to do with the Bush daughters? Good night, are you anti-Clintonites so intellectually bankrupt that you can't focus on anything else?

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.


"WRONG! This harmed not only his family, but, because of computers in the classroom, our children were exposed to all the hoopla and reporting of his "actions" while in office. I for one didn't appreciate my third grader knowing about the semen stained dress or the use of a cigar for something other than smoking."

You seem to be confused Marg, VERY confused. Clinton would have preferred to keep matters concerning his penis private. It was Ken Starr and the Repugligoon dickhunting squad that chose to turn this into an international media circus.

-- (Repugligoons love @ chasing. Dem dick), May 31, 2001.


There is all kinds of stuff on the web that's inappropriate for children. There was plenty of porn before Ken Starr's investigation and now that it's over, there's still plenty around. If you do a search on Google for the word "semen" you'll find millions of hits and very few will be about Clinton.

If you know of a third grader who found inappropriate information of any sort on a school computer, then your problem ought to be with the school who either failed to supervise that child or worse, allowed the child to access that inappropriate information knowing it was inappropriate. Blaming Clinton because a young child read up about semen on the school computer is like blaming Bill Gates for creating the browser they used to access that information.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.


This Jenna is obviously in the same league as her father when it comes to intelligence. A dim bulb, a VERY dim bulb.

To go back into a public restaurant and attemtp to buy alcohol again as a minor, only a couple of weeks after leaving a courtroom where she was penalized for drinking as a minor is, well, not REAL bright.

I can see why she was going to a Mexican restaurant for some food, because she is about 3 tacos short of a combination plate.

-- (stupidity @ runs. in the family), May 31, 2001.


If her family cares about her, they ought to cut off her college funding and force her to get a job at minimum wage. It might not keep her from trying to buy alcohol illegally, but it will give her a dose of reality when she can't make bail.

-- helen (b@n.m), May 31, 2001.

Tarzan, The school had CNN on every am in the classroom as part of a current events program. None of the children accessed the internet without supervision. It was on the NEWS and the children were subjected to this "info" through part of the curriculum of making our future citizens more cognicent of what was going on in the world around them. Admirable but, forced to be put on the back burner until the media stopped the rehashing every day of the whole scandal. Yeah, it sure took a village.Thanks Willy and Hilly.........

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 31, 2001.

This child is under great stress. Her father's enemies scrutinize her so as to to SCREWtinize him. She is just another adolescent enduring an identity crisis. Cut her some slack.

Besides, she is obviously the evil twin.

-- Lars (larsguy@yahoo.com), May 31, 2001.


Sorry Marg, I thought when you said, ...but, because of computers in the classroom, our children were exposed to all the hoopla and reporting of his "actions" while in office. I for one didn't appreciate my third grader knowing about the semen stained dress or the use of a cigar for something other than smoking. you were referring to information taken from the internet.

Your complaint however should still be the school which allowed the transmission of inappropriate information to children. You might also have a case against CNN which transmitted the inappropriate information.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.


I feel th eschool took appropriate action by shutting off CNN and discussing newspaper articles that were screened first. Thankfully my son wasn't exposed to much of what went on but, after the first time did have some pointed questions about oral sex. I was quite angry that our kids had to be exposed to that knowledge before it was necessary. According to my son the topic of conversation on and off the school campus was about the whole mess. I assume that the other kids heard more about it at home.

It's upsetting that the innocence that should go along with childhood was insidiously beaten down and left gasping for life in this young section of society. What will the ramifications be?

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 31, 2001.


I was quite angry that our kids had to be exposed to that knowledge before it was necessary. According to my son the topic of conversation on and off the school campus was about the whole mess. I assume that the other kids heard more about it at home.

Kids about eight years old and older start discussing sex. Usually someone with an older brother or sister will hear somthing about the mysteries of sex and pass it along in the form of rumor and misinformation. For instance, in fourth grade my sister was horrified to hear that someday she would start to bleed and she would keep bleeding until she got old, like 40 or so (which is old when you're nine!). Of course, the girl she heard it from forgot all about the monthly aspect of a period, so my sister thought that she would constantly bleed for the rest of her life. Come to think of it, I have heard similar stories from other women and may have read one like this on one of these boards. Not that it matters to you, but I think this is why my sister became an OB/GYN.

It's upsetting that the innocence that should go along with childhood was insidiously beaten down and left gasping for life in this young section of society. What will the ramifications be?

Oh, I think the world will keep turning. Little boys and little girls figure out early on that there's a big, interesting mystery in how babies are made and whatever that mystery is, adults turn all sorts of interesting shades of red when you ask about it.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.


Q - If storks bring babies, what bird brings "no babies"?

A - Swallows

-- (nemesis@awol.com), May 31, 2001.


It's upsetting that the innocence that should go along with childhood was insidiously beaten down and left gasping for life in this young section of society.

And you're blaming this on Clinton? Or did I misunderstand?

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), May 31, 2001.


...I feel th eschool took appropriate action by shutting off CNN and discussing newspaper articles that were screened first. Thankfully my son wasn't exposed to much of what went on but, after the first time did have some pointed questions about oral sex. I was quite angry that our kids had to be exposed to that knowledge before it was necessary. According to my son the topic of conversation on and off the school campus was about the whole mess. I assume that the other kids heard more about it at home. It's upsetting that the innocence that should go along with childhood was insidiously beaten down and left gasping for life in this young section of society. What will the ramifications be?

-- Marg...

Marg, get your head out of your ass! Your evil repug leaders are responsible for bringing the subject of Clinton's cock into the national mainstream news. (and they paid over $50 million to do it). If your angry about the information getting to your school age children its because of the stupid fucking repugs. Liberal's don't play that.

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), May 31, 2001.


Not sure, Partially, yes. I blame Clinton, for not being a good role model for children, for getting caught doing things he shouldn't and then lying about it, along with the push to put computers into every classroom, which exposed his "character" flaws.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 31, 2001.

along with the push to put computers into every classroom, which exposed his "character" flaws.

Wait a minute. Are you saying that the program to put computers in classrooms in and of itself exposed Clinton's character flaws? And if so, what flaws did it expose? Or are you saying that computers in the classroom enabled students to learn more about the Lewinsky matter?

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.


J--

If you were around in the 70s you must remember that the legal age to drink was 18 in many states. This experiment in Libertarianism did not last long because the automobile death rate soared do to teenage drunk driving.

-- Lars (larsguy@yahoo.com), May 31, 2001.


More whining heard down at penn ave

-- (too@funny.haha), May 31, 2001.

Re the link directly above -- I don't think there will be ANY "backlash" from the public. Remember, Clinton and his family were "fair game". Now that the tables are turned, it's quite amusing to see the hypocrites crawling out of the woodwork with "it's a private family matter". These are the same hypocrites who made truly base jokes about Chelsea Clinton's looks, Al Gore's kids; basically, any Democrat and his/her family were fair game. Now, it's suddenly a "private family matter"? Uh huh. "I don't fucking think so."

Marg: Surely you are joking if you blame ANY of this on Clinton. It was the Republicans and the media who made a veritable circus of it all ("Oh the HORROR!! Oh the IMMORALITY!! Oh the WICKEDNESS!! Hey, can I see that transcript again?"). And whatever happened to parental responsibility? I thought the mantra of the "right" was all about "personal responsibility". Isn't that why they want to do away with "entitlement programs"?

Or does this "personal responsibility" thing only apply to others?

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), May 31, 2001.


Tarzan, I am just saying that it is very ironic that it was Bill and Al that made more computers in classrooms an issue which our school district availed themselves of. If Clinton hadn't had his "fling" with Monica, than the republicans wouldn't have been able to parade his indiscretions in front of everyone.

TB are you trying to blame the republicans for Monicagate instead of where the blame lies? If Bill had kept his fly zipped, all of the publicity and money spent on investigating wouldn't have happened.

By your logic, I understand why you're blaming Bush, for everything that has gone wrong in this country recently, after he has been in office 5 months, when you overlook who, and what, was in office the 8 years before.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 31, 2001.


Tarzan, I am just saying that it is very ironic that it was Bill and Al that made more computers in classrooms an issue which our school district availed themselves of. If Clinton hadn't had his "fling" with Monica, than the republicans wouldn't have been able to parade his indiscretions in front of everyone.

Firstly, I still have no idea what computers in the classroom have to do with Lewinsky matter, especially considering the fact that you've consistantly referred to your own children being exposed to the scandal through television. I also think that blaming Clinton for the publicity the affair got is like blaming Howard Stern on Marconi. After all, if Marconi had never invented radio, Howard Stern wouldn't have a radio show.

TB are you trying to blame the republicans for Monicagate instead of where the blame lies? If Bill had kept his fly zipped, all of the publicity and money spent on investigating wouldn't have happened.

And if Bush didn't have children, he wouldn't have been embarassed by their brushes with the law.

Several presidents had affairs while in office. All of them, except Clinton, got a pass from the press until after they were out of office.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.


SL ACK

-- (Paracelsus@Pb.Au), May 31, 2001.

Marg, look who's calling it "Monicagate" -- YOU. Who "parade[d} his indiscretions in front of everyone"? The Republicans and the media.

As Tarzan said, Clinton was the only President who didn't get a "pass" for his indiscretion.

Please tell me what eight years and $50 million (of taxpayer money -- you know, the money you are all claiming is yours) resulted in ..... yep, a Lie about a Blow Job.

Why don't you see anything wrong with that? Instead, all you can focus on is Clinton's cock.

Yes, Marg, I solely blame the republicans and the media for the "circus" that was "Monicagate" because that's where the blame belongs. Clinton's personal life is just that -- PERSONAL. You know, much like the White House is blowing about now -- "private family matter".

Well you can't have it both ways.

So, why didn't you address the part I wrote about "personal responsibility"?

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), May 31, 2001.


For what it's worth, I think "first children" should get a pass on their own scandals as well.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 31, 2001.

.... because the automobile death rate soared do to teenage drunk driving.

Totally off-topic but I "owe" 'ya one, Lars, so here it is: the word is "due", not do. Okay, slate's clean. Please carry on. ;-P

-- snicker (doodle@scorecard.com), May 31, 2001.


I agree, Tarzan. And while "nyahh nyahh" schoolyard bullshit gets one nowhere, it's quite amusing to watch the little hypocrites turn tail now that the proverbial shoe is on the other foot.

I want to know where their "outrage" was when Rush (and several rather "prominent" republicans) mercilessly lit into Chelsea Clinton over her "looks". Where were the cries of "private family matter" then?

I want to know why "personal responsibility" is such a big thing -- only as it applies to OTHERS. I want to know why there is no outrage over the lies and spin of the Bush "administration". I want to know why it took 8 years and $50 million of "our money" to uncover a Lie about a Blow Job.

And I want to know why it's a really bad thing (e.g., evil, immoral, etc.) if a Democrat does it, but it's a "private family matter" if a Republican does it.

To wit, I want the hypocrites to accept responsibility for their hypocrisy and their lies and their spin. For eight fucking years that's all we've heard out of that camp. They were strangely silent for the twelve years prior to that, and they have become strangely silent once again.

Bullshit.

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), May 31, 2001.


Not sure, I agree with you on personal responsibility. Where was Bill's? I personally think it is wrong to screw around on your spouse. I think it is horrific if you are the president of the US and screw around, get caught, lie about it and keep acting as if you are whiter than snow.

There was a lot of respect for the US lost during Bill's residency in the oval office. It is my business and every other taxpaying american's business. The white House BELONGS to us. He was an elected official who had NO RESPECT for the office of president. Apparently he has no respect for himself, wife or daughter.(That reminds me, didn't Bill state that he had mumps when he was young and couldn't father children when he was trying to hump one of the other women that have come forward.So who is Chelsea's daddy?)Why do you insist that he shouldn't have to take personal responsibility for his actions. Double standard here don't you think?

When Bill was in office, I said NOTHING against him, because I have respect for the office. I did not appreciate all the media hypee but, He shouldn't have taken his position so lightly. Was it too much to ask that he act moral while in office? I really don't care what past president's did. More hype by dems to exonerate their sorry excuse for a human.

BTW The computers were set so the kids could watch CNN. Is THAT clear???? They weren't watching "TV" unsupervised.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 31, 2001.


Since Jenna Bush is not the president of the United States, I don't exactly understand why the puritanical element of the Democratic party is salivating of this story.

-- Tony Baloney in '04! (you@go.dude!), May 31, 2001.

Since Jenna Bush is not the president of the United States, I don't exactly understand why the puritanical element of the Democratic party is salivating over this story.

-- Tony Baloney in '04! (you@go.dude!), May 31, 2001.

Face it Marg, you would have been just as outraged if Clinton had come clean and just said it. Monica gave me a blowjob at the office. You fucking repugs disgust me. All you care about is Clinton's cock. I have a friend that sells life size rubber replicas of Clinton's cock if you want one. You know you want it! You sick fuckers! Thats all you could focus on for 8 goddamn years, and to what end?! So you could be right? Are you sure your an American? I wonder...

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), May 31, 2001.

“I have a friend that sells life size rubber replicas of Clinton's cock if you want one.”

Tony, you are one ignorant motherfucker. ‘REPLICA’? Stupid asshole.

-- Tiny (meat@tiny.mind), May 31, 2001.


Tony,

You make me so wet.

-- (DFD@WW.West), May 31, 2001.


Marg, do you even realize what you just wrote? You "don't care what past president's did", but Clinton (near as I can tell, a "past president") seems to really, REALLY bother you.

Are you serious? Did you mind when Reagan/Bush gave Stinger missiles to Iran (and then lied about it)? Or does that fall under the heading of "past president's"? Did you mind when they had the hostages held a "few extra days" so Reagan would "look good" (and then lied about it)? Did you mind the DUIs and AWOL and bilking of stockholders and taxpayers by GWB (and the lies about it)?

Unbelievable. This is useless.

One last thing. If you want to "blame" someone for what your kid saw, blame the school and/or teachers who ALLOWED the access to CNN. But it seems to me that it's just as I said it was -- "personal responsibility" only applies to OTHERS in the republican world. How nice.

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), May 31, 2001.


I have a friend that sells life size rubber replicas of Clinton's cock if you want one. You know you want it! You sick fuckers!

"Unbelievable. This is useless." Not sure, you said it! This sickie has a friend selling cocks and he calls *us* Clinton-haters sick fuckers! Makes you wonder. *sigh*

But not sure, when you write, "I want to know where their "outrage" was when Rush (and several rather "prominent" republicans) mercilessly lit into Chelsea Clinton over her "looks". Where were the cries of "private family matter" then?", I gotta think you don't have it all together. The press didn't report squat on Chelsea. And since when is "looks" a private family matter? Last I noticed, "looks" were something very public, unless of course you wear a paper bag over your head when you go out in public (something Pizza Face should do). Please try to understand the difference between jokes, "private matters" and "personal responsibility".

FWIW, I find jokes about a person's physical appearance not funny at all (except of course Tar's).

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), June 01, 2001.


How do you know what Tarzan looks like?

-- How do you know what he looks like? (did@you.finally.suck.him.off?), June 01, 2001.

Oh dear, I've been reprimanded by none other than Maria. What shall I do?

ROTFLMAO.....

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), June 01, 2001.


Get over it Maria! We know you repugs like Clinton's cock. Hell, the whole world knows it. Seems you like to salivate over Clinton's and like taking dumbya's up your butt. Stupid moronic repugs!

(hey, I am doing pretty good! didn't use the word fuck one time in this post...well, just once...)

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), June 01, 2001.


Lars,

I realize that there are consequences to freedom. Instead of restricting the rights of our 18, 19, & 20 year old citizens, maybe we should just change the age of majority to 21 for everything.

Of course, it would be much harder to fight wars without all of the 18, 19, & 20 year old men that we so eagerly send into harm's way, all the while denying them a beer.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), June 01, 2001.

"The press didn't report squat on Chelsea."

That's because the Clinton's have a lot more class than the white trash Bush family. Chelsea knows how to conduct herself like the mature, intelligent, sophisticated woman that she is. She applied herself at Stanford, graduated with excellent grades, and is now moving on to Oxford University. She certainly didn't waste her time hanging around Mexican restaurants and bars illegally trying to get alcohol like the low-class slutty Bush girls.

-- (dumbya's girls @ are. tramps), June 01, 2001.


"Of course, it would be much harder to fight wars without all of the 18, 19, & 20 year old men that we so eagerly send into harm's way, all the while denying them a beer.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), June 01, 2001."

Oh yes, real men must have several beers before we send them into harm's way, they don't have the balls to do it sober! ROTFL!!!

-- (spoken like a true alcoholic @ and. a wussy), June 01, 2001.


spoken - you need to get your head out of your ass. Your reply makes no sense. I think J was trying to convey the fact that as 18 to 20 year olds are old enough to go out and be responsible enough to defend our country but are told that they are not adult (responsible) enough to consume an alcoholic drink legally. You are way stupid. Stupid enough to be a fucking moron repug.

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), June 01, 2001.

Damn, I think I'm in agreement with baloney boy.....that scares me a little......maye him a little more.

Kids that have to go risk their lives for their country certainly ought to be treated like 'adults' all the way around.

Now about these 2 college age girls having fake ID's and trying to buy alcohol......PUHLEASE!!!!!

However, Miss Jenna getting caught twice in a couple weeks deserves the freakin' BONEHEAD award........

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), June 01, 2001.


Tony Baloney,

You are right as rain.

Now if we could only get you to see the error of your ways politically. : )

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), June 01, 2001.

June 1, 2001

Dear Diary -- It's even worse then we 1st heard -- both twins got sighted for alcohol. And as usual, the liberal media's makin a whole to do over nonsense. Writin bout the twins when they should be coverin my green speech. And they're still doin it, even tho Ari told the press to lay off or else! Not in so many words, but they knew exactly what he meant. I guess those vulchers are harder to squash than we thought.

I was gonna ask Dick fer some daughter rearin advice, now that he's done vacationin in Whyoming -- his just pretend home state. But then I remembered he raised a lesbo.

So instead I called the twins & told em I'm a Zero Tolerance Prezident. And that they'd better stop makin me look bad or I'll sick their Grandma on them. After that I tried to fire their SS agents.

Someone else I'd like to fire is "Coup of One" Jeffords. That guy's got people so riled up he's even gettin death threats. Ari gave me a great line to say just in case I'm asked. Somethin bout always bein concerned bout any threat to any Congress member. I wanted to add "even a quirky, wack job like Jeffords," but they won't let me.

-- Dumbya (daily@diary.com), June 01, 2001.


Tony and not sure, I lost my head. I actually thought you have something in yours besides trash. So sorry! (Hey Tar, what was that you said, anyone resorting to obscenities doesn't have any intelligence?)

And no W's girls, the press didn't report on Chelsea because of the parents' request. Oops, lost my head again. I'm trying to converse with an idiot. So sorry! It's Friday.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), June 01, 2001.


Maria not to worry you are obsessed with Tarzan's cock and Marg is with Clintons. ;-)

One might say you could qualify as cock hounds?

-- marg is the real cock hound (not@too.worry), June 01, 2001.


Time for your meds, dear Maria. You've lost it again. But because I really do pity the little ones in life, I'll try to explain this to you.

I wondered why Chelsea was "fair game" for the CONSERVATIVE PRESS (unless, of course, you don't consider that low-life scumbag who wrote the article that Chelsea should be killed due to her "heritage", as "press"), yet SUDDENLY.....an ACTUAL EVENT takes place (e.g., Dumbya's Dumber Daughters Get Caught Trying To Buy Drinks At The Ripe Old Age of 19, in EXACT DEFIANCE of a law their Dumb Daddy Signed), and the press isn't supposed to report it.

You, in your "infinite wisdom" (snicker), shoot back with, "Please try to understand the difference between jokes, "private matters" and "personal responsibility"".

I wrote that I had been "reprimanded by Maria" (sarcasm abounds). You come back with the ever-witty, "I actually thought you have something in [your head] besides trash".

*I'm* the ONLY one who should be wondering why I'm wasting my time, dear.

-- (not.sure.wh@tyou.mean), June 01, 2001.


Not sure, thanks for the chuckle. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), June 01, 2001.

It's obvious that Maria is jealous that Clinton did not offer her his cock. She wanted it bad, REAL bad!

-- cyber freud (Maria very frigid @ very. angry), June 01, 2001.

I try to reason with you Maria and you spew out gobbledygook like it is the latest fashion. Dumbya's daughters BROKE THE LAW, and you JUST DON'T GET IT. People like you make me want to scream. In fact I think I will scream. I AM THE WALRUS I AM THE EGG MAN KOOKOOKACHOO HELLO MRS. ROBINSON.

Its a good thing Dumbya doesn't have a thirteen year old daughter, or SHE'D BE LIQOURING IT UP with her sisters. You make me sick. I'm really not this way in real life. People actually say I'm a nice guy.

Stop wasting my time Maria!

-- (dumbya's_ policies@stink_to.high_heaven), June 01, 2001.


"I have a friend that sells life size rubber replicas of Clinton's cock if you want one. You know you want it! You sick fuckers! "

No thanks, Tony, I've got an eraser on the end of my pencil, so I don't need another.Thanks for asking though.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), June 01, 2001.


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