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-- The shadow (knows@gain.com), May 24, 2001

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The fundamentalist...The liberal Christian...

Shadow, thats because according to God's word we hail from different Church's. Laodicea & Philadelphia.

Laodicea

Revelation 3:15-16

15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

Philadelphia

Revelation 3:8

8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.

-- Atheist Corner (Truth or@Consequences.con), May 24, 2001.

end times church Laodacein,apostate. yup just visit the =jesus-seminars. you,ll get it.

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), May 24, 2001.

Quoth the idiot:

"There are always a few who find me after class and want to pin me down. They ask me point-blank: "Do you believe in God?"

And I tell each of them, "Yes."

Puzzled, they ask: "What kind of God?"

Over the years I have struggled to come up with a simple but precise answer to that question. And, eventually I found it. I believe in Darwin's God."

Yeah you and darwin and his god can all roast together; happy that you weren't 'taken in' by those ignorant religious idiots.

Bye-bye, suckers. Happy snap, crackle & pop!

-- (wh@t.idiots!), May 25, 2001.

Apparently, AC, we have found the man willing to cast the first stone. You. Personally, I think we learn far more from the life of Christ than the Book of Revelation.

While you might think PBS the handmaiden of Satan, you may learn something from the Frontline special on the Apocalypse and the Book of Revelation in particular.

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Of course, the essays are written by scholars, not fundamentalists.

-- The shadow (knows@gain.com), May 25, 2001.

i>Personally, I think we learn far more from the life of Christ than the Book of Revelation.

The word of God is not a buffet table where you pick and choose the parts you want and leave the rest behind because they don't fit your lifestyle. God's word is truth.

Proverbs 3:7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil.

Isaiah 5:21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.

Matthew 7:21 Jesus says: 21 "Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Of course, the essays are written by scholars, not fundamentalists.

Another way to say what you said is:

'Of course, the essays are written by the secular atheistic community, not Christians'.

-- Atheist Corner (Truth or@Consequences.con), May 25, 2001.

The Bible you read, AC, is the result of centuries of editing and translation. Some books have not been included in the Bible. Perhaps you are familiar with the Gnostic gospels? As I am sure you read, Revelation has been in, out and in again.

The books of the Bible are man's words, inspired by God, unless you happen to have the original stone tablets that Moses carried. Otherwise, we are discussing the imperfect writings of persons influenced by the divine.

The scholars I read are often devout believers, however, they study the scriptures with a broader mind than the fundamentalist who treats each word literally. I fail to see how you serve the scriptures by closing the door on any interpretation but your own. Just as the word of God is to be shared, so is its understanding.

-- The shadow (knows@gain.com), May 25, 2001.

wrong shadow. you should take time to lern how the bible was past down thru=time. God gave it and kept it, no counsel of trent or other manmade thing can determine what is or isn't Gods word. All 66 books of the bible have been accepted from the begining and were collected into one work as early as 170 AD. it hasn't changed since then.

-- (I@M.), May 25, 2001.

Some books have not been included in the Bible.

Due to errors contained within them. Your error is making excuses for treating the word we are left with as a fairytale and justification for your non belief.

Anyone can now obtain access to computer programs that give the original Hebrew and Greek words, and the only "changes" that have been made, have been made for clarity. For example, the old English says, "Unless ye repent, ye shall perish," while a contemporary version may say something like "Unless you repent, you shall perish."

-- Atheist Corner (Truth or@Consequences.con), May 25, 2001.

Screw Darwin's God, I want Tarzan's dick!!!!!

-- Maria (obse@ssed.com), May 25, 2001.

I recommend you both read "The Oxford Illustrated History of the Bible." It is available at Amazon.com and is a lovely book. You will learn that scholars (including Christian and Jewish scholars) see the origins Bible differently. Oh, and a computer program is no way to read Kione Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew.

I am not a fundamentalist and cannot take the Bible as the literal word of God. This does not mean I see the Bible on the same level as Grimm's fairy tales. I believe the Bible is divinely inspired, but like churches, full of the inevitable imperfections of man. You are free to disagree, but I think you diminish your position and your piety by suggesting my faith is suspect.

John 5: 39 You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These Scriptures testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

-- The shadow (knows@gain.com), May 25, 2001.