If it's Tuesday, this must be $120,000

Bill Clinton still has pulling power - and his European tour, which hits Britain this week, is earning him a fortune. Amazingly, he needs it...

Paul Harris and Ed Vulliamy in New York Sunday May 20, 2001 The Observer

Say goodbye to 'Slick Willie' - here comes 'Dollar Bill'. Bill Clinton's money-spinning travelling roadshow will arrive in Britain this week, earning the former US President more than $750,000 in speaking fees.

Since leaving office Clinton has shunned the usual low profile of former Presidents and embarked on a series of lucrative foreign tours. The latest saw him give speeches last week in Norway, Sweden, Austria and Poland. He pitches up in Britain on Wednesday and, in just 13 days, will pocket more than $800,000 (£556,000).

While in Britain, Clinton will visit his Oxford alma mater and the literary festival at Hay-on-Wye, earning fees for speeches that are expected to be around an hour long. Though Clinton's fees are shrouded in mystery, he is believed to charge a minimum of $100,000 a time - and often more abroad. That works out at at least $1,670 a minute.

Clinton will also pick up an honorary degree from Queen's University, Belfast, and give a speech there for a 'reduced fee' as a favour to his friend and university chancellor, Senator George Mitchell.

But Clinton's earnings in Britain are just a drop in the ocean of his recent money-raising exercises. Washington sources say his total earnings this month are expected easily to top $1 million. With a legal debt of $4m, that goes a quarter of the way towards explaining this burst of Clinton wisdom over after-dinner mints and coffee.

The Lewinsky scandal not only cost him his reputation, but also left him with hefty lawyers' bills. So far these have reached $11.3m - $7.5m of which has been paid off, a source at the former First Family's legal defence fund says.

But the level of contributions to the fund is shrinking - over the past eight months only $750,000 has come in. Yet the costs continue to accumulate as the federal grand jury investigates pardons granted on the day of his departure from the White House, notably to Marc Rich, the fugitive billionaire.

There are other ways Clinton could cash in without embarking on the lecture circuit. Robert Barnett, his literary agent and lawyer, said last week that Clinton was on the verge of signing a memoir deal for an advance of more than $8m. There have also been reports - confirmed to The Observer - that Clinton is negotiating with CNN television to host a chat show along the lines of Larry King Live. The news is the buzz of the station and has yet to be denied by any executive. The fee for such a show, with celebrity guests interviewed by the former President each week, could be $15m a year, according to one source.

'There is no doubt that he can make a lot of money and I am sure he will,' said Dr David Mervin, an expert on American politics at Warwick University.

Clinton's latest money-making tour has already sparked controversy in Britain. Clinton was in talks about giving a speech to the left-wing Fabian Society, whose members include Tony Blair, but his enthusiasm reportedly cooled after it emerged that there would be no payment. Officially the society says that his packed timetable - not money - was the stumbling block, but one source said: 'If we had been paying a fee, then we think he could have made the time.'

Authors and speakers at the Hay-on-Wye literary festival have also privately grumbled at the cash paid to Clinton, as they get free sandwiches only. But festival organiser Peter Florence defended the decision to book Clinton. His visit has generated huge excitement and provided a much-needed boost to a local tourism industry devastated by foot and mouth 'It is being seen as a state visit to Wales. It is a very big deal for the area,' Florence said.

Clinton has the crowd-pulling power of a Hollywood star, rather than a grey-haired politician. When he visits Northern Ireland on Wednesday and Thursday, tens of thousands of people are expected to turn out in Londonderry, Enniskillen and Belfast. 'Everyone is thrilled. It will be a wonderful day,' said a spokeswoman for Fermanagh Council, which is scripting every second of his 100 minutes in Enniskillen. His programme even includes one minute set aside for climbing a flight of stairs.

In Warsaw last week - where he picked up another minimum $100,000 fee - Clinton was mobbed by supporters. Such scenes explain why the trips are so lucrative. Before earning his fee in Poland on Thursday, he reportedly made $150,000 in Oslo on Monday, $120,000 in Stockholm on Tuesday and at least $100,000 in Vienna on Wednesday.

One man, however, who may not be pleased is Clinton's successor, George W. Bush. Former Presidents traditionally keep a low profile to allow the new man to come to terms with his role. While domestically Clinton has done that, on the international stage he has never been busier. 'There is meant to a period of grace and silence from the outgoing President. That hasn't happened. Clinton is simply incorrigible,' Mervin said.

But Clinton has not had it all his own way. In Warsaw he was hit by an egg thrown by an anti-globalisation protester. Unlike John Prescott, Clinton laughed it off, remarking: 'It is good for young people to be angry about something.'

Aside from the cash, there are other reasons why Clinton is spending so much time abroad. At 54, and fuelled with supercharged energy, Clinton is finding it hard to adapt to life as an ex-President. Stuck in either Washington DC or his new home in Chappaqua, New York, and waiting to move into his Harlem offices over the summer, he still hankers for the world stage and sees himself as a statesman.

'It must just kill him to wake up in the morning, see a critical world problem on TV and not be able to call Ministers, kings and queens to try to resolve it,' says his friend, Representative Pete King of New York. 'I've never seen anybody in my life who so has to be the centre of attention.'

Instead, when not traipsing around the world, Clinton finds solace in quiet small-town life, wandering around his Chappaqua neighbourhood in jeans and sneakers and eating at local restaurants. 'He's like a Fodor's dining guide to Chappaqua,' says Joe Lockhardt, his former press spokesman.

However, not everyone meeting Clinton gets charged. In March, 12-year-old twins Amanda and Jonathan Schwebel of the Robert E. Bell Middle Schoolin Chappaqua needed help with a school project on the impact of technology on daily life. They thought they'd write a letter to a neighbour - just to ask - and dropped it off at the rambling white colonial mansion on Old House Lane.

That very afternoon they got a reply, and one hour later found themselves in the former President's living room, Clinton sitting in a rocking chair discussing society's growing dependence on laptops and cell phones - as well as his own problems with a golf swing.

For the girls it was the thrill of a lifetime. But even for those paying to meet Clinton some of the old magic remains and he seems value for money despite the huge fees. At Hay-on-Wye all 1,200 tickets to his dinner speech, at £2,000 a table, have sold out. The publicity is likely to attract thousands more to the festival than the 55,000 already expected to turn up for the books. 'He is a major league star. He is great value,' Florence said.

Say goodbye to 'Slick Willie' - here comes 'Dollar Bill'.

-- Ain't Gonna Happen (Not Here Not@ever.com), May 21, 2001

Answers

The right wing media in this country refuses to speak against dumbya, but they proudly spew out this garbage. Notice how Republicans always have bad things to say about Democrats, but Democrats almost always never say bad things about Republicans.

-- Thins that make (you@take.notice), May 21, 2001.

>>>but Democrats almost always never say bad things about Republicans.

Good point. Ain't nobody in this forum ever used the word 'Dubya.' Ain't nobody ever accused the president of stealing the election.

-- InaGoddaDaVida (WeirdScience@Academy.The), May 21, 2001.

Jealousy will get you nowhere Ain't! Bwaaahahahaha!!

Clinton is brilliant, and the rest of the world knows it. That's why they pay him the big bucks.

It's too bad you Repugligoons became so obsessed with his penis, you would have learned a lot more if you listened to his words!

-- (repugligoons@are.morons), May 21, 2001.

I learned much about Mr. Clinton by listening to his words.

For instance, these words, "I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky", taught me that he was a liar.

The words, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is", taught me that he was an accomplished liar.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 21, 2001.

So, it's not the "sex" then, J, it's the "lie"? Tell us how you feel about Dumbya's at first avoiding the questions regarding his drug abuse and arrests and then chalking it up to "youthful indiscretions".

(BTW, he was 40 the last time..... I had no idea 40 was considered "youth".)

And tell us how you feel about Dumbya's, um, "stories" (or shall we say, lack of truth?) about his missing year or so from the National Guard (you know.....the National Guard of Texas that his Daddy got him into so he wouldn't have to dirty his hands in Viet Nam).

And I'm sure we'd all love to hear how reprehensible he was for not "debunking" all the FALSE stories about the trashing of the White House and stripping of Air Force One by Clinton and Company.

Yep, sooooooooooooo glad that "honor and integrity" are being "restored". ROTFLMAO.....

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 21, 2001.

LOL! J is still trying to figure out why he and his wife can't have any kids. He thinks they're having sex when she gives him a blow job!

-- (J's wife gave up on him @ now. having real sex with the mailman), May 21, 2001.

Looks like someone else isn't sure what the meaning of "is" is!

-- (Dumbya@dumber.than.dumb), May 21, 2001.

"Damn! Forgot what they told me to say again! Gonna have to turn on my earphone and have them talk me through it."

-- (all 3 brain cells @ are. overloaded), May 21, 2001.

All 3 brain cells - Wenedy's just called and said your fired. Now you can spend all of your time showing us your "brillance"!

-- ain't and cherri (trolls@ofDifferent.stripes), May 22, 2001.

That's a lot of money Aint. Kinda glad its being spent on someone historical instead of a comer. Political Viagra for dreamers and losers. Hope he gets a million next time.

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), May 22, 2001.

You Clinton supporters are so predictable; not quite unlike moths to a flame you are drawn when your draft-dodging, perjuring, philandering, rapist hero is brought to task.

Of course, no defense do you offer, for defense there is none. Instead, you attack me, or Bush, or any other nearby target in a shallow attempt to deflect the stinging truth that your hero is of low class, very low class, to be exact.

I really must know; just how is it that you are so uncannily able to pull yourself away from WWF every time that some disparaging truth about Bill Clinton finds its way onto this board?

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 22, 2001.

"nstead, you attack me, or Bush, or any other nearby target in a shallow attempt to deflect the stinging truth that your hero is of low class, very low class, to be exact."

LOL!! Look at this thread you moron! It was a feeble attempt by Ain't Too Smart to attack Clinton! Except it backfired... the article explains how brilliant Clinton is!

"He is a major league star. He is great value,"

It's clear that you Repugligoons in love with Dumbass are the lowest form of life on Earth - SCUM!

-- Dickhead Cheney (J is a major league asshole @ big. time), May 22, 2001.

J, show me where I defended Clinton. Then please be so kind as to address the questions I asked you regarding the "draft-dodging, perjuring, philandering, rapist* hero" of YOURS who currently occupies the White House. Remember, YOU were the one who said it was the LIES that bothered you. I gave you MORE lies, but by a different person, to address.

(*Unless one is in certain parts of the country, when one is over the age of 18 and has sex with a 15 year old girl, that's Statutory Rape. And the Broadderick accusations were found to have no basis in fact. I believe she was paid by part of the funding for the Arkansas Project.)

-- runnin' in circles..... (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 22, 2001.

Are all of the liberal left inept at reading comprehension, or just the select few that frequent this forum?

Reread my last post. No, better yet, have someone read it to you. Then have them explain what it meant.

I never claimed that you defended Clinton. On the contrary, I said that there was no defense of the man. I said that you instead offered attacks on other targets to try and change the spotlight from Bubba of the Backwoods.

Like clockwork, in your latest post, you did it again. Predictable. Oh so predictable.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 22, 2001.

J you are a self-proclaimed oxymoron. (an intelligent repug) Why don't you answer the questions regarding the liar that dumbya is first? It bothered you so much that Clinton lied. Why doesn't it bother you that dumbya lies too? Your tactics are to NOT answer a question straight up and then reply with the same tactics that you claim the liberals use. (btw - what the hell is the WWF?) As for Clinton's lies...It bothers me that you cock loving repugs spent in excess of 50 million dollars trying to get rid of Clinton. No one would have ever known about Monica if not for you scandal loving repugs. If you were having a woman give you blow jobs (not your wife) would you want to go on national television and proclaim it? Normal people try to hide their embarrassing problems (whether its right or not). Face it J. You are a major hypocritical stupid fucking repug. Your brain is so small it can't even see that dumbya is a moron and a bigger crook than Clinton ever was. You fucking repugs are all the same. What a bunch of stupid asses.

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), May 22, 2001.

Tony,

Love is blind. J will never see Dumbya for what he really is because he is in love with his cock. He loves to suck it and take it up the ass.

-- (J loves being reamed @ by. Dumbya), May 22, 2001.

So, J; are you going to answer the questions or simply comment (ad nauseum) on the reading comprehension disability you perceive?

Once again (because apparently YOU have a reading comprehension disability) ..... YOU raised the issue of LIES. I gave you examples of LIES by someone you seem to admire. I asked you for your opinion of those LIES.

If you're not going to address the issue YOU raised ..... you leave the reader no choice but to believe that you are a hypocrite.

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 22, 2001.

Tiny Baloney,

It is fascinating to watch foul-mouthed cretins such as yourself spout off about how intelligent you are, and how stupid Republicans are. Evidently you have never learned that gutter language, while incredibly effective if used in the right setting and at the right time, quickly paints the user as one of lower standing and of little or no education when it is used too frequently. Ah well, you and your brethren have difficulty with simple ballots, so what should I expect.

To try and placate you and your ilk, I will try to make these points painfully clear. George W. Bush, to my knowledge, has NEVER:

1)Dodged the draft.

2)Perjured himself.

3)Cheated on his wife.

4)Raped Juanita Broderick, or anyone else for that matter.

Bill Clinton, on the other hand, has done three, if not all four, of those things. Considering his known encounters with Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, and Kathleen Willey, I would put much more credence in Juanita Broderick's story than in that of Bill Clinton.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 22, 2001.

You don't consider Daddy's getting Dumbya into the Texas National Guard (from which he was AWOL at least a year) so as to avoid Viet Nam as "draft-dodging"?

You don't consider his hemming-and-hawing over his cocaine abuse and arrestS as lying? What about his outright LIES about his DWIS?

You don't consider sex with a 15-year-old as rape?

As to whether or not he cheated on his wife, there was a rumor..... and the republicans have kind of set the standards for rumor-facts over the past eight years. (You get what you give. Sucks, doesn't it?)

You are a hypocrite, J. You claim to be a "born-again christian". You shame true Christians.

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 22, 2001.

monkey moron,

It is incredible how you people think.

Serving your country in the National Guard is not draft dodging. Going to England to protest the war and then disappearing into the communist Soviet Union for an undisclosed amount of time is draft dodging.

Choosing not to disclose information to a reporter is not lying or PERJURY. Giving false and misleading testimony while under oath is PERJURY.

Would you care to substantiate your statutory rape allegation? Before today, I had never heard such a claim. And IF it is true (which I highly doubt at this point), sex between two consenting teenagers is not FORCIBLE RAPE. Using your superior physical size to have sex with a woman against her will is FORCIBLE RAPE.

Lastly, the best that you can do is to cite some false rumor. Some false rumor that the Democrats conjured up out of thin air is not cheating on your wife. Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, et al. is cheating on your wife.

Your view of me as a hypocrite and as a shame to true Christians is actually a very clear sign that I am doing the right thing.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 22, 2001.

MEANWHILE-BACK AT THE RAAAANCH!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), May 22, 2001.

You stupid fucks who supported and now support the bloodless right wing coup deserve the gutter language. You cretins deserve to have your collective asses nailed to the cross. This is the United States of America and the majority of us VOTED, and it wasn't for that stupid fucking moron George W. Bush. So, FUCK YOU J and the rest of you brainless ugly people known as Repugs! I know you like it but I for one want dumbya's repug dick out of my ass!

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck you@repugs.com), May 22, 2001.

Juanita Broaderick maintained that Clinton hadn't raped her for several years. Then she changed her story to say that he had. And you believed her? Good god man, clean the shit out from between your ears!

-- J Luvs Timmy McVeigh (bwa@haaaaaa.haaaaaa), May 22, 2001.

J-man.....GWB was **over the age of 18** (did you GET IT that time?) which makes it **STATUTORY RAPE**.

Had he actually served his term in the National Guard, I'd agree with you. But he didn't. He was AWOL for **at least a year** (and probably closer to two). Further, he was grounded thanks to his alcohol and substance abuse (which he then LIED ABOUT on at least one application form).

Oh, and you gotta love the SPLITTING HAIRS!!!! You agonize over "the definition of 'is'", yet state CATEGORICALLY that "Choosing not to disclose information to a reporter is not lying or PERJURY".

What a hypocrite!!!

As to "false rumors", as I said above, the republicans have set the standard for those over the past eight years. Live with it ;-)

Now crawl back into your hole, hypocrite. ROTFLMAO!!!!!

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 22, 2001.

Tiny Baloney,

You make my point far better than I ever could.

You should audition for a bit part in the Sopranos. Of course, that would entail working.


anonymous coward,

I would guess that there are many people around the Clintons who have lied to protect themselves from harm. Juanita Broderick may have been one of them.

Regardless of what your cowardly, anonymous, little brain thinks, I put much more stock in her rape allegation than in Bill Clinton's denial of same. Once a perjurer...


monkey moron,

Ah yes, once again with the UNSUBSTANTIATED statutory rape allegation. Care to cite a source there, monkey?

And the ever popular, however false, AWOL accusation. Care to prove that accusation? You know, with DOCUMENTATION. While you are at it, care to prove your accusation that he was grounded for alcohol and substance abuse?

Evidently you can't grasp the difference between choosing to avoid a nosy reporter's probing questions and choosing to lie under oath. See if you can guess which one is against the law, monkey boy?

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 22, 2001.

No court in the world would convict Clinton of raping a woman who for over twenty years maintained that he didn't rape her. All you have is a damn rickety allegation yet you take it as gospel truth. How fucking sad is that?

-- J luvs Timmy McVeigh (bwa@haaaaaa.haaaaa), May 22, 2001.

Give it to them J! I can't believe the rabid demonrats believe their EX fearless leader. Talk to some of Clinton's friends......ooooppppps I forgot, they are all dead. Too bad.Clintoon is a bad soprano's episode.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 22, 2001.

I like Clinton.

-- Dr. Pibb (dr.pibb@zdnetonebox.com), May 22, 2001.

"...You make my point far better than I ever could..."

You mean the part about liking it up the ass? bwaaaahaaaa bwaaahaaaa

You walked right into that shit! bwaaahaaaa bwaaahaaaa

Stupid fucking repug!!

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), May 22, 2001.

Marg,

Thanks for the support.


Tiny Baloney,

No, imbecilic one, my point, not your point. You see, my points are the ones that I put forth, your points are the ones that you try to put forth. The point about your foul-mouth showing your lack of class and education was my point, not yours.

The more that you post, the more glaringly obvious it becomes that you aren't just dumb, you are cinder block dumb.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 22, 2001.

At least he doesn't think the people who died at Oklahoma City got what they deserved. That alone makes Tony a bigger man than you J.

-- Afraid of J's Militia (not.telling@dont.wanna.die), May 22, 2001.

J,

Thanks for enlightening me. I get it now. Your point - not my point. How could I have been so blind? Thanks buddy!

P.S. Your still a stupid fucking repug!

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), May 22, 2001.

Was wondering how long it would be before a brainless one brought up The Clinton Body Count.

You two are made for each other -- ROTFLMAO.....

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 22, 2001.

J, A CHRISTIAN?????

HAAAAAH! THAT'S A LAUGH!!

After years of bashing and lying about Clinton, he still doesn't understand the meaning of "do unto others, as you would have them do unto you"!!

-- (don't you DARE call yourself @ Christian. you fucking hypocrite), May 22, 2001.

Tiny Baloney,

You wrote, "P.S. Your still a stupid fucking repug"!

The irony of your idiocy is incredibly funny. Of course, you are too dumb to get the joke. If all of the Democrats were as stupid as you are, they would not even be able to find their voting places, let alone botch simple ballots.


monkey moron,

No source. No documentation. No proof. That's just what I expected from you.


just another anonymous coward,

I am so hurt by your words. Whatever will I do? Oh yes, now I remember. I will completely disregard you because you are "just another anonymous coward".

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 23, 2001.

Talk about cowards! J doesn't sound like a real name to me! Post your REAL name and address, otherwise you are just another coward hiding behind the bullshit facade that you are a "Christian". Uuuugh! You shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with Christianity!

-- (you are spiteful, hateful @ and. evil like Satan), May 23, 2001.

LOL!

With nut cases like you around, I would never consider, even for the slightest of moments, posting my REAL name and address on the internet. I do, however, always use this handle, and no other. That way, I am accountable to the rest of the regular forum posters for the words that I write, and yet, I don't have to worry about some psychopath showing up at my door.

You, on the other hand, use an ever-changing handle because you are ashamed of that which you write, and you are too cowardly to keep one handle and be accountable for that which you say.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 23, 2001.

I rest my case. You are an anonymous coward. But much worse than that, you pretend to be a Christian. Give me a fucking break. You "Born-Agains" are a real piece of work. You go through your life spewing vile and hatred upon others, then when you realize that you are going to burn in hell, you suddenly claim you are "saved", and this somehow makes all your sinful behavior disappear. Talk about a coward!! Worse yet, you seem to think that now that YOU call yourself a "Christian" (Hah! How pathetic!), this gives you the right to preach to others, as if your actions are SO much more virtuous than everyone else! How truly filthy and disgusting you are. You need to learn how to practice what you preach, you sinful bastard.

-- (J is @ born again. evil bastard), May 23, 2001.

LOL!

An anonymous coward saying that I am an anonymous coward. And resting his case, no less. So sorry old chap, but you have no case.

Your words are meaningless to me, and you are just another anonymous coward too ashamed of that which he has to say to put a lasting moniker to it. Unfortunately, your kind are a dime a dozen around here.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 23, 2001.

Nobody is judging you morons.........what scripture teaches us, shows your actions to be what they are, the path to hell.

J, Pearls before SWINE.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 23, 2001.

Is anyone surprised that the moral majority (talk about oxymorons) is in bed with the repugs? Hypocrites to the core! How can you so called christian right wingers be against abortion and support capital punishment at the same time? You repugs are all the same. I'll say one thing for you repugs....nahhh forget it!

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), May 23, 2001.

Marg,

Yes, pearls before SWINE, indeed. The proof is in how they turn and try to tear you apart.


Tiny Baloney,

See if this helps:

Unborn babies = innocent

Convicted murderers = guilty.

See the difference? I won't hold my breath.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 23, 2001.

J-man, if you had half a brain you'd......well......have half a brain. You'd be a sanctimonious hypocrite with half a brain. As it is, you're just a sanctimonious hypocrite.

Marg dear, I wouldn't talk too much about SWINE if I were you.

barf.....

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 23, 2001.

monkey moron,

It has been a long time since I have heard an insult of such magnitude.

I believe that it was the second grade.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 24, 2001.

What a sharp wit you are -- as opposed to, say, "monkey moron"?

For someone who says that others' words are "meaningless" to him, you sure take great pains to respond to them ;-)

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 24, 2001.

Mr. monkey moron,

Is that better? : )

When someone's handle is purposefully chosen to speak badly of some group with which I agree, then I try to change that handle so that I am not furthering said someone's agenda every time that I respond to them.

The anonymous posters who flit in and out of here with a new handle every post mean nothing to me. Sometimes I choose to post in their direction, but often I do not. To ignore a post of a regular forum member that was directly put to me would be rude. To ignore a post of one of the many anonymous cowards, on the other hand, would be quite acceptable. I do, however, reserve the right to respond to said anonymous cowards at my whim. : )

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 24, 2001.

Marg dear, I wouldn't talk too much about SWINE if I were you.

barf.....

-- (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 23, 2001.

Why??? Will yo'momma get her feelin's hurt???

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 24, 2001.

Wow -- a "yo mama" joke ..... I lie mortally wounded from your rapier-like wit. Did you think that up all by yourself? You should be proud.

Thank God we have 'Muricans like you two to save us from ourselves.

ROTFLMFAO.....

-- they prove it every time they post ..... (dittomonkeys@re.morons), May 24, 2001.

Talk about cowards! J doesn't sound like a real name to me! Post your REAL name and address, otherwise you are just another coward hiding behind the bullshit facade that you are a "Christian". Uuuugh! You shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with Christianity!

-- (you are spiteful, hateful @ and. evil like Satan), May 23, 2001.

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LOL!

With nut cases like you around, I would never consider, even for the slightest of moments, posting my REAL name and address on the internet. I do, however, always use this handle, and no other. That way, I am accountable to the rest of the regular forum posters for the words that I write, and yet, I don't have to worry about some psychopath showing up at my door.

You, on the other hand, use an ever-changing handle because you are ashamed of that which you write, and you are too cowardly to keep one handle and be accountable for that which you say.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 23, 2001.

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The name is Dennis J. Olson, lives in Michigan somewhere. Ask Anita, she knows more about his whereabouts.

Hobbies are trading newborns on the internet, worshipping Timothy McViegh as god's chosen one and trying to impose his will on the rest of the free United States. Oh, he also thinks harmless children's fantasy books are some form of devil worship, will not loan out any of his automatic weapons to people to use in duels with him and is in general smug and overbearing in his demeanor.

I didn't think he was a born again christian because at one time he professed a belief in Mormonism. How about it Dennis/J? What's your view on polygamy and the temple? Marge one of your wives?

BTW, it's nice to see you again. I thought you had left the board.

Marg,

Speaking of Bible quotes wasn't there one about the jawbone of an ass?

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), May 25, 2001.

Yup, JBT, there is and for all you non-believer's the proof that the bible is not just fairytales is Jack Booted Thug. He is proof positive that a jackass CAN speak.

-- Marg (okay@cutaway.com), May 25, 2001.

Jack Booted Thug,

You have it almost all wrong. I am seriously considering buying a couple of AK-47s for our little match. Just don't blame me if the firing pin is missing on yours. : )

I have never been a Mormon, but in my pre Christian days, I did entertain the whole polygamy idea. Mrs. J, however, did not. Marge is not one of my wives, although I think that Homer is one lucky guy to have a wife with such tall blue hair. It's an incredibly sexy look, don't you think? : )

I have been hanging around the board as always, it just takes the right conversation to entice me into posting. As always, it's been great trading shots with you...metaphorically, of course!

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 25, 2001.

"You have it almost all wrong. I am seriously considering buying a couple of AK-47s for our little match. Just don't blame me if the firing pin is missing on yours."

Threatening someone's life is a serious crime, we will be keeping a close eye on you.

-- FBI Carnivore (you are now @ being. monitored), May 25, 2001.

Just like an anonymous coward to leave out an important part of a quote.

-- J (Y2J@home.comm), May 25, 2001.

JBT: J is NOT Dennis.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 25, 2001.

O.K. if you say so. But you have to admit there are moments.

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), May 26, 2001.

I know what you mean, but I'm confident that there are times when SOME weirdo even agrees with MY thoughts. [Yeah...the concept of THAT boggles MY mind, as well.]

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 26, 2001.

Let's not get carried away now. Nobody could be that dysfunctional could they? Just Kidding ;)

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), May 26, 2001.

Someone could be and that someone would be our resident hypocrite. AKA Marg. She is using many handles these days, right Marg? Now remember it is a sin to lie.

-- (show@us.thetruth), May 26, 2001.