Hurray for Phoenix:She rises from the ashes(FMD) : LUSENET : Countryside : One Thread

Just heard a report on ABC that a farmer in England found a calf among the carcasses of his slaughtered animals(a heifer:) They made it a joyous publicity event, lots of photos of the family with the (now) bottle calf, made the headlines. Of course, officials showed back up to slaughter the one they missed, but the family demanded they get a court order first. Because of all the publicity, not only did this calf get a reprieve, but the government has changed their policy, and say they will no longer kill healthy livestock neighboring infected. I say Hurray Hurray for this brave family who managed to change the system! This could make a difference in the way our country responds should the problem make it here. What do you think?

-- mary, texas (, April 27, 2001



Not quite that simple. Policy change applies only to cattle and any cattle near an infected site will be very closely monitored. Does not apply to either sheep or hogs. They still fall under the kill zone.

Phoenix probably appeared at the right time and the right place, but Britian had already said they were over the hump on F&MD and were already relaxing some restrictions.

Will this make a difference if F&MD comes to the U.S.? My SWAG is absolutely not. USDA recently announced it would pay fair market value for any livestock killed at their demand and were open to additional payments for disposal costs.

-- Ken S. in WC TN (, April 27, 2001.

This is a step in the right direction. Too bad millions of animals (that did not even have the disease)have had to die before this, and that several rare breeds have already been irrevocably destroyed, all to preserve their 'golden calf' of HMD disease free status. Although Phoenix may be just one saved among so many others that were slaughtered, she is a precedent, and that's why she's so important. I hope and pray that we're intelligent enough to learn something from the consequences of Britain's reaction to this crisis, BEFORE it comes here and we do the very same thing.

-- Chamoisee (, April 29, 2001.

We have learned from the British experience. That lesson is their methods work.

-- Ken WC TN (, April 30, 2001.

Ken, it's hard to imagine that we saw and heard the same reports. To me it was horrific, a complete fiasco.

-- mary, texas (, April 30, 2001.

oops! this just could be interpretted as a potentially offensive religious-oriented post, because as you know, Phoenix rising from the ashes is a myth of ancient religions. Please, no offense is meant by this post, I am only pointing out that people who are offended by religious posts should be equally offended at ALL religions, and not just at Christianity.

-- daffodyllady (, May 04, 2001.

Don't worry daffodyllady. I'm still trying to recover from a lovely computer virus that someone on the forum sent to me after I made some statements regarding my Pagan religion. There's enough prejudice here for everyone to share in it!

-- Sherri C (, May 04, 2001.

The farmers named their calf Phoenix for obvious reasons; I don't think they intended it as a religious statement. I certainly did not. When you read mythology in school did it seem religious to you? To me they were only stories. No offense intended.

-- mary, texas (, May 04, 2001.

Though I have Norton and a new computer, I hadn't updated my virus protection in awhile. New virus is badtrans it is all over the and some other forums. It hits your email with a post from somebody you know, in fact in my case the person was a friend. It had some forwarded goat material I had written than an open attachement to click on. Knowing the person of course I clicked on it, it wouldn't open. The virus does nothing at this point. It waits for you to log back on than 5 mintues later sends the virus it has stored to everyone in your inbox and sent files. Which if you are many forums and not on digest could be a bundle. I don't know anybody who would intentionally send a virus. With the above URL I found the virus used the patch, and was lucky enough to be able to use my Gateway Go Back to delete it. Lots of folks have been hit with this. Vicki

-- Vicki McGaugh TX (, May 04, 2001.

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