Big Brother is at it again! : LUSENET : Countryside : One Thread

Please read the article at this web address. Quite scary!

Take care!

-- Judy L (, April 01, 2001


Kind of has a familiar ring to it.

It looks to me like Kroger's and other retailers need to understand that they need me (the customer) a lot more than I need them...

-- Ed Copp (OH) (, April 01, 2001.

The average American shopper will go along with this new device. Remember most are ignorant of their rights and probably couldn't care less if they are violated. Like gun control they will trade a promise of bogus security for most of their rights under the Constitution.

-- Lynn Goltz (, April 01, 2001.

I agree, too many will just let this breeze by them. I've had to give my fingerprints for military service and certain jobs I've held, but felt "violated" in a way doing that. I don't want a neighborhood food chain having my prints on file...too many things can happen with them in this hi-tech world. I do cash. I don't have enough of it to worry about....but I find it's the best way to keep track of it and keep nosy people out of my business.

-- Deborah in WY (, April 01, 2001.

We don't have any Kroger's stores around here (that I know of), and haven't heard of our local stores talking about....yet! Guess I wont be writing checks anymore if they do. Hopefully the banks wont start, since I do lots of banking (we have a home business). It's a definite invasion of privacy! George Orwell would be proud.

-- Marcia (, April 01, 2001.

One nice thing. Unless it gets changed, Both visa and master card dont allow a merchant to ask you for ID when using plastic. Some may ask but cant refuse you if you dont wish to.

-- gary (, April 01, 2001.

It's time to buy more seeds, folks. Make sure they are open- pollinated. Also time to learn more skills that will make it less necessary to go to the store for anything.

-- Green (, April 01, 2001.

Our little chain store...Texas chain Brookshire Bros. has digital thumb scanners for cashing paychecks in it. Green's suggestion is a good one.

-- Doreen (, April 01, 2001.

Have any of you gotten Giant's bogus er Bonus Card? No discounts unless you use it.They are the only chain nearby that stocks the goodies I like.I have simply been paying full price cash only and/or spending my money at a the Mom and Pop down the road even though they have less selection and higher prices.I have also been doing without the goodies and treats.Ben and Jerry's is not worth my privacy.Definatly will be growing more of my own veggies this year as well as buying up more canning jars at yard sales and such.sadly we are such a small minority that the stores implimenting these programs won't miss us and don't care if we are alienated.And I am what they call a 5 percenter.(one of those that buys 80% of the high profit items)As much as the lefties like to slam her.I'm begining to think Ayn Rand was on to something.Big chains look at us as livstock to be manipulated into giving up what funds we have.We are only one more commodity to be traded or utilised.Reading the ingredient lists of what now pases for food I think I am better off without them or the games they play.

-- greg (, April 01, 2001.

Friday night at the round table discussion was about 'cash'. Some of those in the group, believe that the day when 'cash' is considered 'black market' (ie: big brother) is not long off. I ride the fence on this one, I'm just not sure. I have been asked, when cashing a check why I wasn't depositing, and what I intended to do with the money! I told the teller a) I don't have an account, and b) I'm going to Atlantic City. I once met an elderly woman who had survived the concentration camps in Germany, and she scoured the actions for pure gold and silver. She swore that it was the only way to secure one's future.

-- Kathy (, April 01, 2001.

Well, you could always screw the system up by wearing latex surgical gloves and say, "I'd really like to help, but i have excema (or dermatitis or whatever) and I can't take these gloves off. See what they do then to get round the ID problem, and then insist on using that method from then on.

-- Eric J Methven (, April 01, 2001.

Not to lengthen this any more but if any of you have store cards stop using them or going to that store for three months.You will get a letter from the store wanting to know why you don't shop there anymore.Some chains actually list what you normally buy in the letter."Mr.Jones we are concerned that you are running low on cheerios.Are you feeling well?Perhaps you ran out of heart medication.We have a full time pharmacy as well as an extensive line of over the counter remedys." Some chains have gone as far going to a persons house to find out why they are not buying.Wish they would stop here......... send more marketers!The last ones were delicious.

-- greg (, April 01, 2001.

The shoe store at our local mall REQUIRES that you stamp your fingerprint on the back of the check if you intend to write a check to pay for your shoes. They have an ink pad behind the counter, and they whip it out and expect you to give them your thumbprint. It is not required if you use a credit card or pay cash (obviously). I was shocked the first time they asked me to do that....kinda made me feel like I was a criminal being fingerprinted in jail! Needless to say, I ripped up my check and paid cash......

-- Tracey in Alabama (, April 02, 2001.

How typical.... The sheep that need everything RIGHT NOW are getting taken again. Glad I don't do anything but cash!!! Soon as I can get my land I'm off to the never-never land of self-sufficiency. Of course that will require getting rid of my bad habit of drinking coca cola!!!! (And smoking Marlboros....)

-- Sue Diederich (, April 02, 2001.

Does anyone really think that those who sell "big ticket" self sufficiency items (tractore, feed, photovoltaics, etc) won't also go to this hig-security method, once they realize that not only can they ensure their customer's fiscal security, but also track customers at the same time? Self sufficiency is only that if you never buy anything - not matches, not feminine hygene, not medicine, nor ever have to pay land taxes (the govt. is really big on security, in case you hadn't noticed), or literally anything ever purchased anywhere. Sleep tight!

-- Soni (, April 05, 2001.

At a former job, I had to fingerprint applicants for jobs with any of the local schools so they could get a background check. I can tell you it is VERY difficult to get a good, readable print, and if you want to mess them up, just roll your finger to make the print, then back again over the print, and it will not be legible. The clerks won't know the difference, and your print will never be traceable back to you. Jan

-- Jan in Co (, April 06, 2001.

Thanks for that tip Jan. Our bank requires a thumbprint when you cash a check. I'll be using your method now. Thanks again. :-)

-- Granny (, April 08, 2001.

why should this bother you? what have you got to hide? they are tring to help you? so just stick you little thumb on the reader. don't worry soon enough you will just have to wave your hand under a sensor, so you identity can be verified and we can sell you your carrots. it won't take long and that is just for your own protection. then when the technology exists we can look forward to that little chip to save us all the time and hassles of the thumb print. remember bb loves you!

-- stephen (, April 11, 2001.

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