Positional-----Grace

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salvation is a legal[done] action--growth-is another matter. ''whoever BELIEVES[entrance] and takes CHRIST as there=personal-saviour becomes a child[baby] of GOD.then starts the maturing process [spiritually]a =renewimg of the mind-new desires-battles to be won- ''WHOEVER HAS THE SON-HAS[NOW=ETERNAL LIFE'' IT,S all A WORK OF GOD-all HE demands is=believe. but know this 1 thing you will have 3 enemies-at work at ALL times.

1.satan-----2.the world of unbelief--------3.self[old] nature a humble[childlike faith] is the entrance to the=KINGDOM OF GOD. yes THERE ARE=HYPOCRITES-BUT SO IS THERE THE REAL 1'S THE plan of GOD is awesome.JESUS [messiah] is the=ANSWER.

-- al-d (dogs@zianet.com), March 31, 2001

Answers

Oga booga=hata bseda: gef tadsuc=muktas guikma[judta] ob gulab chic ma doka.= no answer

-- Oga Booga (Oga@booga.mok), March 31, 2001.

Hi al-d. Ps 103

-- (bygrace@thru.faith), March 31, 2001.

HI BY/GRACE,YUP PSALM 103 1 OF MY FAVORITES...

-- al-d (dogs@zianet.com), March 31, 2001.

Oga Booga - stop sprouting your right wing nonsense to the whole world. We all know that Reagan stole the election. Jimmy Carter won and should have been our rightful president.

-- Oga Booga is in denial (really@really.bad), April 01, 2001.

oga booga, there ain,t no-politics in GODS-KINGDOM. IT,S a family thing!!!!

-- al-d (dogs@zianet.com), April 01, 2001.


What a trooper you are! Might take a few years and a colapsed economy before some of the more hard hearted are ready to hear you though. Your writing style is somewhat mad, but your connection to God is deep.

Would you agree that the process of sanctification [that is, gaining in holyness and therefore gaining in the power of the Spirit (for those nonbee's out there)] begins and is ever dependent upon the foundation of Grace? Seems some who understand Grace go no further into obedience, while others want holyness and giftings without submitting to, and abiding in Grace. Or not. What do you think?

-- timphronesia (politicus@webtv.net), April 02, 2001.

HI politic,my personal understanding is that[ALL] is of GOD. INCLUDING SANCTIFICATION-holiness=everything!! PAUL said we are to consider ourselves dead'' and=HIDDEN in HIM. the [old] adam can,t do it---the new adam[CHRIST] will. so all I see to do= is chill. I think paul gave the clue->''CHRIST [in] us the hope of glory!!

-- al-d (dogs@zianet.com), April 02, 2001.

Without doubt, friend. Sanctification is ONLY an act of the Lord. And positionally, that is ultimately, all who are saved are sanctified. But here in time and space, some allow the Lord to 'set then apart' faster than others. That is to say, some allow the Lord to remove the sin and mere flesh from there lives very quickly, while others cling to 'egypt' or vaccilate between His grace and their own efforts for quite some time. My understanding is that that is why the New Testament calls us to 'Holyness' and 'obedience' hundreds of times. Or not. Do you see it otherwise?

-- (politicus@webtv.net), April 03, 2001.

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