How does a person learn the old traditional skills of building with logs(?)greenspun.com : LUSENET : Countryside : One Thread
We recieved an e-mail stating there was much interest about our school and hands-on classes in the traditional craft of building with logs and were unable to follow up with no address, so we thought we would see if anyone knew more; We go where ever arrangements are made by someone wanting to build a handcrafted log home from scratch and conduct an intense 14 day hands-on course where the students are not only learning to do for their own, but the project is for a worthy cause and helping, generally, a family to get a big start on building their own log home or log cabin. This is our schedule this far !
A 320 acre Camp located just to the NW of Fort Collins, Colorado is hosting a class in which some participants will enroll for the two weeks and others for the four week hands-on training in log home building! The Camp is providing lodging and meals to the students without charge. The camp, as our host, recieve a log building to house staff out of the class! See below!
We are doing a two week and a four week class in the Rockies in Fort Collins
area of Colorado at the "Buck Horn Camp" ......... we will build a cabin for
staff lodging there, the "shell" in its entirety!
www.buckhorncamp.org. Buck Horn Camp Web Site firstname.lastname@example.org Gregg Kernes, Camp Manager
Meals and lodging will be provided free for all the students participating
by the host!
The best way to learn this is to single out someone that knows the craft and
bird-dog him. Probably the fastest way to learn too. You will be lodging, eating and working with me for four weeks with Sundays off. You will be exhausted and ready to go home, but a proficient log builder, ready to build
yourself a project!
As a member of the Great Lakes Logcrafters Association and the Canadian Log Builders Association, I know many of the builders in the US, or know of them. We get requests for trained entry-level log builders from these Professional Custom builders .......so, if employment is a goal we can help you with that too!
You will need to be willing to relocate for the duration of your employment and they will likely ask for a one year commitment. The reason for that is they don't want to lose good help in the middle of the jobs they have planned. A trained log builder at the "entry" level is in high demand and enough are'nt available to go around! Entry Level because they will have a few things they want to be able to teach you them selves and Trained because you will have shown and invested yourself in learning the craft. Being paid $14.00 to 17.00/ hr is not uncommon with your abilities demonstrated.
The month long class is going to be coming up in June .........You can do the first two weeks at the two week tuition rate, or the four week class and see the project through to a completed "shell"!
We are being "Hosted" and going to Vermont in August (5th-19th), Tennessee in September (8th-22) and Georgia in October (6th-20th). We may be going to Arizona in November and plans are being made now for a tentative two week class in Anchorage, Alaska in June 2002!
You need to decide if this is a career or the opportunity to learn to build a log home from scratch for yourself! .......it gets in your blood ! After you see it and do it, you won't look at it like its "work" ...... I have'nt for 18 years!
So, . . . what are you doing this summer?
All the best!
Bill & Amy
Hope to see you there!
This is the William M. Lasko School of Log Building @ LogSmithy@AOL.com Log Building School URL: http://www.wmmLaskologschool.homestead.com/laskoschooloflogbuilding.html
The Vermont class is a two week class in which we will build a 1500 square foot log "shell" with 12 coners in the plan. The host resides in Burlington, VT. John Rowell, 5 Knoll Circle So. Burlington, VT 05403 E-mail; email@example.com and phone is ; 802 864-5430
-- William Lasko - School of Log Building (LogHomeRaisings@AOL.com), March 09, 2001
Looks like more commercial advertizing.
As stated, "The month long class is going to be coming up in June .........You can do the first two weeks at the two week tuition rate, or the four week class and see the project through to a completed "shell"! "
COURSE THEY DON'T SAY HOW MUCH TUITION IS REQUIRED. Sounds like the ol' hook um' first, then tell them what it costs.
-- Lynn Goltz (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 09, 2001.
The tuition for a two week class for an individual is $750.00. If that person brings along a relative, ie. wife, husband, brother ,dad, grandpa, son, or daughter - its just $250.00 for the accompanying studdent. For a four week class it is $1250.00 for an individual, and still $250.00 for the relative. At the class in VT - the first ten students to register deduct $100.00 off the regular $750.00 for an individual, and there will be a drawing on the last day for a new STIHL O26 chainsaw. The class in Colorado is at a camp, as the information explained, and all the meals and lodging are provided by the hosts. A host generally pays a fee of $4500.00 to host a 2 week class. This guarantees we schedule the time for the class and promote it - and show up no matter how many students register. Thats for locations East of the MIssissippi - West is a bit more to offset the travel expenses. The fee also covers cost for advertising as well and helps make sure we are available to come to your site and conduct a course in traditional craft of full scrobe to fit log construction to owner builders and get a great start on your log home. So, you see-- the costs can vary a little, and the arrangements can sometimes make a big difference in the overall costs to the school and the students. NO slick salesmanship or underhanded dishonesty here. You can attend a class for $750.00, bring your son, another $250.00 - then make plans to host a class with in a six months to a year, $4,500.00 and in a two week hands-on class have a pre-assembled log "shell" in approximately a 1500 SF size range 60 to 75 percent complete, even with only 6 students, and - if you opt for the full-round scribed log corner "chinker", we can all but gaurantee the shell will be completed in the two week course. We generally require a host to have been a student before they engage in planning to host, this way they get to meet us and work with us and then decide later, and so do we. They may decide they can do it alone or not at all. Its a great opportunity to have some people come to your site and help with your log home, and for $5,000.00 you have something worth far more than what is invested when it is done. That four wall "shell", with log timberframed truss and purlin roof support system and a loft would be worth 35 to 45 k. Nice. This is something we thought would be informative and benefitial to the homesteaders here and would have wanted to know about it before hand, and maybe possibly attend one of the classes and/or at least find the web site for the school of log building. Anytime you will see that much contact information, it usually deserves the time and effort to explore the content before assuming its a bad thing. (Yes, we do earn a living doing this and it does cost time, energy and resources - but it comes back ten times just in the relationships started when eating, sleeping, and working alongside some of the most motivated, hardworking down-to-earth people get together and finally participate in a course and lesrn those skills by doing them!) Ohhhhhhhh the lord of the flies! William Lasko - President & Chief Instructor 1 800 222-6000 ext 765 339 000 if you would like to leave us a message - let us know how you see it now with all the details! Thanks, and thanks for the feed back!
-- William Lasko (LogHomeRaisings@AOL.com), March 09, 2001.
Hello William, Those tuition prices maybe competitive but, for the price of tuition I could build my own house here in the Ozarks. Why would anyone take a course on log home building in the first place? There are dozens of manuals and how to do books that can show you a-z on log consturstion. Besides, all one needs is a detailed picture and few common tools a muscles. Sincerely, Ernest http://communities.msn.com/livingoffthelandintheozarks
-- Ernest in the Ozarks (email@example.com), March 10, 2001.
Good Morning Earnest!
Can a log home be built for $750.00? That is what the tuition is. To Host a class at your home and have a group come there for two weeks and learn how to do their own has a fee with that. We go anywhere (nearly) and since its primarily meant for former students I don't think anyone is being 'mis-led'! : ) The books and manuals are an important tool in doing your own log home, and we issue one to the students - but is it enough? We work in the 1500 year old style of Scandinavian full-scribe-to-fit tradition. This is where each log is scribed or marked to the contour of the one below it and there is no chinking material required. In Missouri, the Hewn Log Style with dovetail corner knotches is probably the most common. We're gonna do something about that! We have purchased land near Climax Springs, MO 2 miles from the Lake of the Ozarks for a permanent site for the School of Log Building! : ) There are people that could take the time and muttle through figuring their own cabin out, (we give them 20 years of experience onsite actually working on a project)we don't see many of them coming to the classes though. Maybe thats why we have'nt met you yet! I took a class over 17 years ago and never regretted it.We can send you a free color brochure and schedule if you would like, just send a current mailing address and we can call a number with a time to call also designated. Thanks for the questions and input! Love an opportunity to explain what we do and helping get them cabins built and dreams of having one realized! Bill Lasko
-- William M. Lasko (LogHomeRaisings@AOL.com), March 10, 2001.
Earnest! I tried to visit you on your web site you posted on the above responce you left and it does not come up. I'd like to see it and wondered if you could check the URL for me ........
-- William Lasko - School of Log Building (LogHomeRaisings@AOL.com), March 10, 2001.
Try the Foxfire Books. They're old, but have lots of information on log cabin building and "other affairs of plain living".
-- Ruth Freeburg (firstname.lastname@example.org), November 16, 2001.