Convicted of drunk driving. Bush Lied repeatedly to cover up his arrest.

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Convicted of Drunk Driving, and Lied to Cover It Up

George Bush now admits that he was convicted of drunk driving. On September 4, 1976, a state trooper saw Bush's car swerve onto the shoulder, then back onto the road. [The Bush camp spin that he was driving too slowly is simply a lie.] Bush failed a road sobriety test and blew a .10 blood alcohol, plead guilty, and was fined and had his driver's license suspended. His spokesman says that he had drunk "several beers" at a local bar before the arrest. Bush was 30 at the time. He now says that he stopped drinking when he turned 40 because it was a problem.

More troubling, Bush lied in denying such an arrest, and still won't take responsibility for his actions. His first reaction was to blame Democrats and Fox News -- the only openly conservative TV network -- for reporting the story. "Why [was this reported] now, four days before the election? I've got my suspicions." He refused to say what his suspicions are, though. Bush admits covering up the story, but seems to think he has no responsibility for the failure of his cover up.

In fact, just like Clinton with Monica Lewinsky, Bush has brazenly and repeatedly lied to cover up and minimize this arrest.

1. Bush Lied at his Press Conference, 11/3/2000

Bush said he paid a fine on the spot and never went to court. That is clearly a lie, as you can see on this court document showing his court hearing a month later. In fact, it was a man also in court for DUI the same day who revealed Bush' arrest. Here is exactly what Bush said in his press conference:
Bush: "I told the guy I had been drinking and what do I need to do? And he said, "Here's the fine." I paid the fine and did my duty...."
Reporter: "Governor, was there any legal proceeding of any kind? Or did you just -- "
Bush: "No. I pled -- you know, I said I was wrong and I ..." Reporter: "In court? "
Bush: No, there was no court. I went to the police station. I said, "I'm wrong."

2. Bush Lied in Court, 1978


Bush got a court hearing to get his driving suspension lifted early, even though he had not completed a required driver rehabilitation course. He told the hearings officer that he drank only once a month, and just had "an occasional beer." The officer granted his request. But Bush continued drinking for 8 years after that date and has said publicly that he drank too much and had a drinking problem during that time. Presumably Bush was under oath during the hearing, though we haven't been able to pin down that detail. The Bush campaign refuses to comment on this contradiction.

3. Bush Lied To "The Dallas Morning News", 1998


"Just after the governor's reelection in 1998, [Dallas Morning News reporter Wayne] Slater pressed Bush about whether he had ever been arrested. 'He said, 'After 1968? No.'" Dallas Morning News, 11/03/2000 [Before 1968, Bush was arrested for theft and vandalism in college.]

4. Bush Lied On 'Meet The Press', 11/21/99


Tim Russert: "If someone came to you and said, 'Governor, I'm sorry, I'm going to go public with some information.' What do you do?"
Bush: "If someone was willing to go public with information that was damaging, you'd have heard about it by now. You've had heard about it now. My background has been scrutinized by all kinds of reporters. Tim, we can talk about this all morning."

5. Bush Lied to CBS, 1999.


"Bush has often acknowledged past mistakes, but CBS News Correspondent Lee Cowan reports that in a 1999 interview with CBS station WBZ in Boston, he denied there was any so-called smoking gun." CBS TV news

Bush also evaded countless questions and gave Clintonesque half-truths. For example, while struggling with how to answer charges of drug abuse, he said that he would have been able to pass FBI background checks during his father's administration. But those checks include the question "Have you ever been arrested for any crime?" So either he was directly lying, or he has some Slick explanation like "I could have explained the circumstances of the arrest and still passed the FBI check."

In another evasion, Bush decided to serve jury duty in 1996, during his first year as governor. On his questionairre, he simply left blank the questions about prior arrests and trials. Then he found himself on a trial for drunk driving, where every juror is eventually asked about prior convictions for drunk driving. The night before the trial, Bush's lawyer asked the defense attorney to dismiss him, because "it would be improper for a governor to sit on a criminal case in which he could later be asked to grant clemency." It's a silly argument, because that problem exists with any criminal trial and Bush had already decided to serve on a jury, but the defense attorney obliged and excused him before direct questioning of jurors began.

Bush now justifies covering up his arrest "to be a good role model for his daughters." How does he figure that? Lying to cover up your crimes is not what I call being a good role model. Taking responsibility for your actions, admitting fault honestly and warning people of the consequences you suffered, THAT would be a good example. But Bush prefers the Clinton route of bald-faced lying, then blaming your enemies and the press when you get caught.

Bush is now the first person to be elected president after being convicted of a crime.

Bush had several other drunken incidents, as well. In December, 1972, Bush challenged his dad (the ex-president) to a fist fight, during an argument about Bush's drunk driving. He had taken his little brother out drinking, and ran over a neighbor's garbage cans on the way home. Bush's atypical public service job, working with inner city Houston kids, appears to have been an unofficial community service stint set up by Bush, Sr. Apparently the governor didn't learn his lesson, because his drunk driving conviction occured almost four years later.

In another incident, he started screaming obscenities at a Wall Street Journal reporter, just because that reporter predicted that Bush's father would not be the 1988 Republican nominee. The reporter obviously was wrong, but a drunken Bush Jr. walked up to him at a restaurant and started yelling "You fucking son of a bitch. I won't forget what you said and you're going to pay a price for it."

In fact, Bush' running mate Dick Cheney now admits he had two drunk driving offenses in 1962 and 1963, giving the Bush -- Cheney ticket a new world record of 3 DUI's on one ticket. No wonder they seem so relaxed.

The conviction is bad enough, but the real question is, what other revelations are going to come later, about his drug use (which he won't deny), failing to show up for a year of his National Guard service, or sexual escapades in his swinging single days?

There is evidence that Bush has more to hide involving his Texas driving record. Soon after he became governor, he had a new driver's license issued with the unusual ID number of "000000005", an action that destroyed the records of his previous license. His staff could only say, weakly, that this was done for "security reasons" but there is no record of any previous Texas governor having done so. Now we have at least of hint of why Bush wanted his records obscured, and a dark foreboding that more might be lurking, still covered up.

Drunk Driving Sources

Drunk Driving Sources

George Bush's Arrest Record, Fox News Website, November 3, 20000

Bush's Driving License Suspension Record, The Smoking Gun website, November 3, 2000

"No arrests after '68, Bush told paper", By Wayne Slater and Pete Slover , The Dallas Morning News, 11/03/2000

Bush lied about his arrest, a reporter says", by Jake Tapper, Salon Magazine, November 3, 2000

Court hearing: "Bush downplayed drinking", by Stephen A. Kurkjian and David Armstrong, Boston Globe, 11/4/2000 pA11 "Bush Admits 1976 DUI Arrest; Dem Delegate Made Disclosure", Fox News Website, November 3, 2000

"Bush Admits He Drove While Drunk", The Oregonian, November 3, 2000 pA19

"Bush Still leads, but Key States Buoy Gore: Disclosure of DUI for GOP Candidate is Late Disruption", by Jackie Calmes and Jeanne Cummings, The Wall Street Journal, November 3, 2000 pA22

Interview with Thomas Connolly, (the lawyer who revealed the conviction), Fox TV News, November 3, 2000, 12:00 PST

"What Is George Dubya Hiding?", by Linda Starr and Bev Conover, The Online Journal, June 4, 1999

Yelling at reporter -- from The Economist, July 29, 2000 p21



-- Cherri (jessam5@home.com), February 27, 2001

Answers

smell a rat?



-- (bush@smells.pu), February 27, 2001.


But those checks include the question "Have you ever been arrested for any crime?" So either he was directly lying, or he has some Slick explanation like "I could have explained the circumstances of the arrest and still passed the FBI check."

I'm no Bush fan, but just because you have been arrested (or tried and convicted I might add) does not mean you cannot pass the FBI check. The investigators are more concerned with the severity of the offense, and your honesty in relating it to them.

-- (@ .), February 27, 2001.


I'm no Bush fan, but just because you have been arrested (or tried and convicted I might add) does not mean you cannot pass the FBI check. The question is, why lie? Why all the cover up and vague answers if they were not an attempt to hide things?I have a security clearance, I remember some of the questions. I didn't lie about anything. Did he lie? Did he lie to the government? If getting a DUI is not a reason to prevent a clearance then why not tell the truth in the first place? It appears that he has a history of lying and believing it is ok, such as in the "Funeral-gate" situation. He denied any involvement in the entire thing, later when others told about his involvment he admitted involvement, with excuses. He hasn't gotten where he is through honesty.

-- Cherri (jessam5@home.com), February 27, 2001.

“I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO ME! I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!”

William Jefferson Clinton, well known ‘sitting’ President to a TV audience of MILLIONS of Americans. Now friends, THAT is some major league lying from a real pro!

-- Barry (bchbear863@cs.com), February 28, 2001.


Barry, I STILL don't consider a blow job sex. Neither did Lewinsky. I know that you may consider that "nit-picking", but there are 20 years of people in public office behind this guy who felt the same way and wouldn't do the penis in vagina thing EXCLUSIVELY so they could say, "I never had sex with that woman."

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), February 28, 2001.



Notice how quickly Barry AKA scumbag "Ra" changes the subject back to Clinton.

"Mommy, Mommy, it's not my fault! I saw that other boy throwing a rock first and I was just imitating him! It's not fair Mommy! He did it first!"

ROTFLMAO!

-- LOL! (Ra.is.such@fucking.WUSSY!!), February 28, 2001.


Anita, how would you define the word "is"?

And here's Cherri's comment:

The media today not only make up things and/or exaggerate the truth, they print out-right lies without any possibility of being held responsible for their actions.

The claims that Hillary had registered at that high priced store was an out and out lie, written by one person in the press which was picked up and built up even more by other members of the press. Not one of them printed a retraction or wrote the truth after it was told to them by the representatives of the store. "The News" is no longer the news as it once was. They are nothing more than scandal rags.

-- Cherri (jessam5@home.com), February 23, 2001.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), February 28, 2001.


Gee Anita, you ever get out to Southern California? :>)))

-- Barry (bchbear863@cs.com), February 28, 2001.

I STILL don't consider a blow job sex.

ROFLMAO!

I've never been able to keep a straight face when anyone says that in front of me. Please do define your version of sex for us.

-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), February 28, 2001.


Buddy:

Sex [as defined by Webster] is a penis entering a vagina. Fellatio and cunnilingus are forms of masturbation, albeit masturbation with a partner. Many heterosexual couples engage in these forms of masturbation as a prelude to sex, and see them as foreplay.

Politicians, CEO's, and men in power of all kinds have engaged in these sorts of behaviors for decades, KNOWING that they could state under oath that they hadn't had sex. Newt Gingrich was the most famous, which accounted for all the jokes at the time saying, "He used the Gingrich defense."

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), February 28, 2001.



How does Clinton's sex life impact Bush's DUI and whether or not Bush lied?

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), February 28, 2001.

Has anyone ever heard major TV media use the terms fellatio and/or cunnilingus when referring to acts by public figures? I ask because I have not. My theory is that the word sex is used in the media to denote any form of genital contact between two (or more) people because they - the media - refuse to use the correct terminology.

Yes? No?

Today must be definition day.

-- Rich (howe9@shentel.net), February 28, 2001.


Hey dumbasses, the word sex originated as an abbreviated form of "sexual reproduction", so tell me how is it possible for reproduction to occur during a blow job? Masturbation, yes. Sex, no.

-- Dr. Ruth (i know @ what. sex is), February 28, 2001.

No, Webster says nothing of the kind.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Main Entry: 1sex Pronunciation: 'seks Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sexus Date: 14th century 1 : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male 2 : the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of living things that are involved in reproduction by two interacting parents and that distinguish males and females 3 a : sexually motivated phenomena or behavior b : SEXUAL INTERCOURSE 4 : GENITALIA

Note definition 2 which refers to "the sum of...behavioral characteristics...", 3a which refers to "sexually motivated phenomena or behavior" and 3b which cross references to "sexual intercourse" as a distinctly different term.

So, my reading of Webster is that the term sex encompasses behaviors including intercourse but not exclusively.

Note to faux Dr. Ruth, sex comes from the Latin sexus.

-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), February 28, 2001.


Rich: "Perhaps" back in the day? When tv was moral, such words were exchanged? Maybe? Nahhhh I doubt it.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane tho, I havent heard them there words in quite some time :-)

Lets have cunninglus or felatio? Nope, lets have SEX instead.

Blow job is still a BJ and Sex is still Sex to me. IMHO sex IS sex regardless, but it is differently defined by those in power.?

Damn, there IS the IS thang going on again.

-- sumer (shh@aol.con), February 28, 2001.



opps, my bad....spell check on cunninglus :-)

-- sumer (shh@aol.con), February 28, 2001.

How many hairs can you split on a fly? When someone has been accused of sexual abuse, or more directly to Clinton's case, sexual harassment, his or her sexual behavior comes into question. Masturbation is a sexual act. Clinton lied about being alone in the office with Monica; Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman because he used a cigar instead of his dick. Did he receive sexual pleasure from these acts, of course he did. He had plenty of opportunity to come clean (sort of) and lied about it, making her out to be some kind of "groupie", even psychotic. Ok so he didn't have "sex" (iontercourse) with that woman but he sure did engage in sexual activity with that woman. A stained dress is proof.

Rich, I think the media does not want to be explicit in describing sexual behavior. What is the *legal* definition (where Webster doesn't play)? In the case of an abused child, I'd make the definition as broad as possible.

Tar, sex is much more fun than driving (drunk or otherwise). Unless of course you're having a sex (intercourse or BJ) while driving.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), February 28, 2001.


Well Ape-Man, the very idea of ‘lying’ is just so forever associated with the Clinton’s that it is difficult to discuss the subject without mentioning the all-time champs. Are you suggesting that Bush’s denial of a 20-year-old DUI is comparable in scope to a sitting President lying to the American people on TV? GWB was a young man holding no office of public trust. Clinton was getting his horn blown in the Oval Office by a young intern. Hellooooo! I’m beginning to feel ‘extra’ sorry for you my friend.

-- Barry (bchbear863@cs.com), February 28, 2001.

Tar, sex is much more fun than driving (drunk or otherwise).

Fun or not, what does Clinton's sex life have to do with Bush's DUIs or alleged lies about them?

Are you suggesting that Bush’s denial of a 20-year-old DUI is comparable in scope to a sitting President lying to the American people on TV?

I'm suggesting that Clinton's sex life has nothing to do with Bush's DUI or alleged denial thereof. It's as though you are trying to absolve Bush of whatever taint he may bear by trotting out Clinton's indiscretions, either that or maybe you just like wallowing in the details of Clinton's sex life.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), February 28, 2001.


Fun or not, what does Clinton's sex life have to do with Bush's DUIs or alleged lies about them? Nothing but lies (as you so appropriately called them) "have to do with" Clinton's sex life and Bush DUI[s]. Are you alleging more than one? The difference, Clinton lied under oath and Bush came clean during the final days of his campaign.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), February 28, 2001.

Maria-

Since you freely admit that Clinton's sex life has nothing to do with Bush's DUI, then why on earth do you keep talking about it? Is it that you feel Clinton's misadventures somehow excuse other presidential scandals, or is it perhaps something deeper that drives you to spend so much time and energy on thoughts of what the former presidents turgid member was doing during the last eight years?

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingignthroughthejunglewithouta.net), February 28, 2001.


off

-- (messy@ht.ml), February 28, 2001.

off

-- (stubborn@nd.messy), February 28, 2001.

Tar, I was the fifth (I think, I might need to recount) one on this thread to comment on sex and lies. Right behind Barry, Anita, Rich, and Dr Ruth. Show me the last post I had regarding Clinton's BJ. The last conversation I can remember was with Bemused.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), February 28, 2001.

Shutup you stupid bitch! You're too stupid to turn your tags off, let alone lecture anyone else.

-- (maria is @ dumber. than dumb), March 01, 2001.

Show me the last post I had regarding Clinton's BJ. The last conversation I can remember was with Bemused.

Your memory is as poor as your reasoning skills. On this thread, you wrote:

Clinton lied about being alone in the office with Monica; Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman because he used a cigar instead of his dick. Did he receive sexual pleasure from these acts, of course he did. He had plenty of opportunity to come clean (sort of) and lied about it, making her out to be some kind of "groupie", even psychotic. Ok so he didn't have "sex" (iontercourse) with that woman but he sure did engage in sexual activity with that woman. A stained dress is proof.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), March 01, 2001.


Short term memory loss is a sign of stress.

I KNOW this. :-)

-- sumer (shh@aol.con), March 01, 2001.


Tar, that's it. You are offically of the doomer mentality. Sorry, I meant outside this thread and I didn't write it out. Thought that would be understood but now I know that for you (especially for you) I will type out every single word so that your little brain can comprehend the complexities on a single thread. NOTICE my dear, that my first post was only regarding Cherri and the definition of the word is.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), March 01, 2001.

Tar, that's it. You are offically of the doomer mentality.

Actually I was a polly, so chalk up one more lie from Maria. You seem to use lying as a way out when you get backed into a corner. I wonder why that is?

Sorry, I meant outside this thread and I didn't write it out. Thought that would be understood but now I know that for you (especially for you) I will type out every single word so that your little brain can comprehend the complexities on a single thread.

Hey, if you can't articulate yourself clearly, the fault lies with you, not me. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a mind-reader. Moreover, this convenient excuse of "You misunderstood me," is wearing a little thin, not that it wasn't transparent enough to begin with.

NOTICE my dear, that my first post was only regarding Cherri and the definition of the word is.

And notice that all you said was "Show me the last post I had regarding Clinton's BJ." YOU set the rules of engagement. Losing the argument does not mean that you can go into the way-back machine and amend your original statement.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), March 01, 2001.


Tar, I was the fifth (I think, I might need to recount) one on this thread to comment on sex and lies. Right behind Barry, Anita, Rich, and Dr Ruth. NOTICE the words *on this thread*. As Diane would say... * sigh *

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), March 01, 2001.

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