Dumbya's tax deal is horseshit

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Dumb fuck wants to give another $1000 per child to welfare mommas who squeeze out puppies for this very reason. What is this guy, a fucking liberal??

All of my tax money goes toward paying for other people, especially people with kids for schools etc. The only thing I use is the roads and those are paid by my license fees and gas taxes.

So why the fuck do people with more kids get more of a break than I do??

-- dumbya (has.head@up.ass), February 09, 2001

Answers

Can anyone here translate Idiot into English?

-- what is he trying to say? (may@never.know), February 09, 2001.

I have a masters in Idiot, so I will hereby offer my services. What this poster is trying to say is: I'm too stupid to understand anything on the news, and $1000 is more than I will ever legitametly earn in my lifetime, so why doesn't President Bush give the money to me instead of people with children. I'm so stupid I can't even figure out where children come from. I suspect the stork, but I don't see very many of them flying overhead.

I don't have a job, so therefore I don't pay taxes but if I did I would be making different choices in my life as those who do pay taxes are footing the bill for my consistently recurring drug rehabilitation stints as well the many times I have been incarcerated in the local jail as well as federal prison.

So why do people who contribute more to society than I do complain that I'm wasting they're tax money??

-- Glad to help (thisGuy@needs.help), February 09, 2001.


Dumbya certainly does not like the President's tax cut, so I suggest he either a) Take the dems' meager tax cut proposal, which is even more skewed to those not working in the first place and popping babies like rabbits (it's called the Earned Income Tax Credit). or b) refuse his tax cut as a protest that it came from Bush and continue to pay the confiscatory rates that have made the rest of us glad to even be getting a tax cut

-- this guy has a real problem (moreinterpretation@ugly.com), February 09, 2001.

Hey ugly-get your facts straight-you can qualify for Earned Income tax credit and not have any children:

Q. Who can claim the credit?

A. To claim the EITC on your 2000 tax return, you must meet all of the following rules:

You must have earned income during the year. Your earned income and modified AGI must each be less than: $10,380 if you have no qualifying children, or; $27,413 if you have one qualifying child, or; $31,152 if you have more than one qualifying child. Your investment income cannot be more than $2,400. Your filing status can be any filing status EXCEPT married filing a separate return. You cannot be a qualifying child of another person. If you are filing a joint return, neither you nor your spouse can be a qualifying child of another person. Your qualifying child cannot be the qualifying child of another person whose modified AGI is more than yours. Additionally, to claim the EITC, you must have a Social Security Number (SSN) for you, your spouse (if filing a joint return), and your qualifying child.

A SSN is a number issued by the Social Security Administration to a U.S. citizen or to a person who has permission from the Immigration and Naturalization Service to work in the United States.

You cannot get the earned income tax credit if the SSN was issued solely for use in applying for or receiving federally funded benefits.

You cannot get the credit if, instead of an SSN, you, your spouse, or your qualifying child has:

An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), which is issued to a noncitizen who cannot get an SSN, or;

An Adoption Taxpayer Identification Number (ATIN) which is issued for a child to adopting parents who cannot get an SSN for the child being adopted until the adoption is final.

http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/ind_info/eitc4.html#Who

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), February 09, 2001.


gray,

You proved my point - the EITC shows $10K limit with no children (you'd have to be making LESS than the minimum wage to manage that), but jumps to $27K with just one child. My bitch is that there is never any tax relief for families making between $100K and $200K, which with two working adults is not to be considered wealthy in my opinion (but the dems sure believe they are). A family making under $30 effectively pays little or no fed taxes now and the EITC actually provides not tax relief but actual subsidized income above and beyond in many cases.

-- just give us back our money, the Fed does not need it (moreinterpretation@ugly.com), February 09, 2001.



Families earning between $100K-$200K are not wealthy?

Please.

Anyone with that kind of income itemizes deductions and probably pays less as a percentage than most.

-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), February 09, 2001.




-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), February 09, 2001.

Buddy,

Two UAW workers in a family make more than $100K; two teachers make more than $100K; two college graduates working after just a few years make more than $100K. I do not consider those people wealthy, but I guess when you are playing the envy game then that's your reality if YOUR family makes anything less. You are just the kind of dupe that the dems just LOVE.

-- -- just give us back our money, the Fed does not need it (moreinterpretation@ugly.com), February 09, 2001.


Two UAW workers in a family make more than $100K; two teachers make more than $100K; two college graduates working after just a few years make more than $100K. I do not consider those people wealthy, but I guess when you are playing the envy game then that's your reality if YOUR family makes anything less. You are just the kind of dupe that the dems just LOVE.

I can't comment on the UAW workers--don't know any. But two teachers? What city is that in? Maybe I'll apply. After 9 years of teaching I was making 35,000. That was about 7 years ago. Starting salary for a public school teacher in Washington, DC, is about 24,000 right now. Two college graduates? Maybe, if they are both programmers or engineers.

Maybe they aren't wealthy, but they certainly aren't hurting. A lot of people in that situation are bitching because they live beyond their means--two SUVs in the driveway, probably leased; a nanny or all-day child care, which in itself probably cancels out one of the incomes, it did in my case; too much credit card debt; more house than they need; etc.

Envy? Dupe? Hardly. I don't envy that lifestyle.

-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), February 09, 2001.


LMAO Glad to help!

-- (cin@cin.cin), February 09, 2001.


Hey, what's the prob? Don't like the tax cut? Just donate the proceeds of the tax cut back to the US Government. THey'll gladly take it.

But you won't do that, will you?

-- Sgt Hooker (SMHooker@real.net), February 10, 2001.


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