Dumbya is very predictable. He is a puppet for the New World Order. Just listen to what he says, and it is guaranteed that the result of his actions will make the exact opposite become the reality. Absolute power will be accomplished by absolute deception...

""My administration will look first to faith-based and community groups," he said. "We will not fund the religious activities of any one group, but when people of faith provide services, we will not discriminate against them."

Discriminate against most religions is PRECISELY what they intend to. Over time, as religions become more and more dependent on government for funding, they will eventually be weeded out until there is only one government-controlled religion.

The insecure and helpless who seek religion will have only one choice... The Religion of the New World Order and the One World Government. Ultimate mind control over the masses. Put all of your faith in The Government and they will provide for your needs, as long as you allow them to have total control. Right now they are only taking the first steps, building the foundation. But make no mistake, this IS what is coming.

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Bush signs order opening 'faith-based' charity office for business

January 29, 2001 Web posted at: 7:47 p.m. EST (0047 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After devoting his first week in office to education reform, President Bush opened his second week by concentrating on more controversial issues, including his proposals to allow religious groups to receive federal funding for the provision of vital life and social services to the needy.

The new president announced Monday morning the creation of a new White House office focused solely on helping religious or "faith-based" groups obtain federal tax dollars. The office was founded with the late-morning signing of an executive order at the White House, following Bush's morning meeting with a host of religious leaders.

The new White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, Bush said after the meeting, will report directly to the president.

"This is one of the most important initiatives that my administration will implement," he said. "There are deep needs and real suffering in the shadow of America's affluence. We are called by conscience to respond."

The legislative portion of the president's plan -- which would allow religious groups to compete with secular organizations for federal dollars to pay for after-school programs, drug treatment counseling, meal assistance and other programs -- will be sent to Capitol Hill Tuesday, Bush said.

The documents sent to Congress will include broader tax deductions for Americans who make regular charitable donations.

The president also signed an executive order directing five Cabinet-level federal agencies to investigate how faith-based groups could effectively participate in a variety of government aid programs.

Bush said the Justice Department, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the Education and Labor Departments will be charged with drawing up lists of federal regulations that stymie private groups from cooperating with the government to provide social aid.

Those regulations, he said, would then have to be rewritten or eliminated.

"We will look for greater cooperation between the government and the independent sector," Bush declared. "And we will remove regulatory barriers."

Private and faith-based charities, Bush said while surrounded by those who attended the morning meeting, will be the Bush administration's first line of defense against poverty, addiction and homelessness.

"My administration will look first to faith-based and community groups," he said. "We will not fund the religious activities of any one group, but when people of faith provide services, we will not discriminate against them."

Those in attendance Monday included representatives of Christian, Muslim and Jewish organizations.

"This is a collection of some of the finest America has to offer," Bush said. "These are people who lead with their hearts."

The new White House office will be charged with distributing billions of federal dollars to a variety of religious groups and charities over the next 10 years. In essence, the groups would be competing with a number of established organizations -- including federal agencies -- for a set amount of tax dollars.

"There are so many people in need that the federal government is not getting the job done," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said Monday afternoon.

Bush has appointed University of Pennsylvania political science professor John J. DiIulio Jr. to head the office.

Former Indianapolis Mayor Stephen Goldsmith will chair a new advisory board -- the Corporation for National Service --, which will work hand-in-hand with Dilulio and his staff.

To build support, Bush planned to meet throughout the week with leaders of a number of spiritual and charitable groups, and he planned to attend the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday -- a presidential tradition.

Despite the intent of the president's plans, critics said Monday that Bush's wide-ranging proposal would violate the Constitutional separation of church and state.

"For the purpose of the state and the church, and the principle of separating the two with a decent distance, this is a very bad idea," said Barry Lynn of the advocacy group Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Bush anticipated such criticism last week, and sought to mute a number of voices whose objections will likely grow as the legislative portions of the proposal wend their way through the Congress.

Bush aides said safeguards would be in place to make sure the religious groups do not use the money to proselytize.

"This will not be funding religion," Fleischer insisted. "It is not the religious aspect of what they that is getting funding, it is the community service aspect. These are not going to be programs that preach religion, these are faith-based programs that help people improve their lives."

Aides said some faith-based groups already receive federal funding under the 1996 welfare reform law, and that these groups have not violated the constitutional separation of church and state.

Health reform in the works

Bush may also be close to unveiling his plan to give grants to states to provide prescription coverage to the poorest seniors.

The proposal is expected to be similar to the "Immediate Helping Hand" plan Bush touted during the last months of the 2000 presidential campaign. As a candidate, Bush advocated providing $48 billion over four years to pay full drug costs for seniors with incomes below 135 percent of the poverty line, which is less than $12,000 for an individual.

Bush aides said the president's plan would serve as a "bridge" until Congress passes a full Medicare overhaul bill, but Democrats said Bush's proposal may not go far enough.

"If he focuses only on low-income people, then there are a lot of middle class folks struggling to pay their prescription benefit," said Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Indiana.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/29/bush.faithbased.01/index.html

-- Dumbya fans (blind@as.bats), January 30, 2001

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They're practicing the system that you claimed didn't exist on another thread.

Collectivism, which is confiscation and redistribution; with them occupying the top of the pyramid.

And I'll bet you wouldn't have it any other way.

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), January 30, 2001.

"If he focuses only on low-income people, then there are a lot of middle class folks struggling to pay their prescription benefit," said Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Indiana.

No you dumbfuck, I am a middle class folk, and I struggle to pay my taxes, so that you can give OTHER people a prescription benefit. Asshole.

And yes, I will agree that I find this development troubling. On the one hand I see the wall that seperates church and state falling, which is bad for both the church and the state. On the other hand I know that private charities do a much better job of providing these types of services than does government. Just one more reason to give me back my taxes so that I can decide who needs my support.

KoFE,

Agreed. Funny how they cannot see where the government teat leads until it is too late, eh?

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), January 30, 2001.

Watch out for Maitreya, he's the new World Order anti Christ!

Do a search and you'll be amazed!

-- ... (...@aol.com), January 30, 2001.

Unc,

As usual, you said it best! Let's use our money as WE see fit, in our own communities first and foremost.

-- Concerned Citizen (Liberty.and@justice.for.all), January 30, 2001.

No you dumbfuck, I am a middle class folk, and I struggle to pay my taxes, so that you can give OTHER people a prescription benefit. Asshole.

Echoing the above sentiment. Especially since I just found out the gov had taken over 10,000 in taxes from us now and I STILL OWE.....

WTF?

-- sumer (shh@aol.con), January 31, 2001.