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[ECON] Folks, time for TSHTF ! Posted By: Dennis Olson

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this crowd of jokers are gonna start gettin UGHLEEE...

Got preps? You'll wanna give these folks a wide berth; time to hunker/bunker down soon!

A thought - if'n folks start askin' ya 'bout all your "silly Y2K" preps, I might suggest sompin' vague 'bout donations to local soup kitchens, you made some sales on eBay, howzabout those Cubbies, did'ya catch that new CeeDee Rom Release of SplatterHeadz? Change that topic real quick, let them's that knows your situation be the ones you trust the most, or you may have an army of "friends" on your doorstep real soon.

Peace and Love,

Don

PS: FWIW, I was in a local gun shop recently, placing an order on ammo(you can NEVER have too many preps ); the place was PACKED, especially around the pistola counter. Made me wonder; just how many folks out there planned on their ONLY prep purchase to be gunz and ammo?

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Heck, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we suddenly found one of the 84 missing 10 kiloton Russian suitcase nukes, right about Jan. 20th.

Stay out of the cities if you can. Maintain a low profile and be prepped if you can't.

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Hamilton...I think we're on our way to a place that makes the dark ages, mad max and terminator look like a Saturday in the Park.

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and THAT folks is the reason i'm bout to take the baseball bat and smack in some anus's...There is a LOT i can do to help out a lot of people with it. Including myself. I know one thing...if TSHTF...I got some people i'm visiting. no one here on this board. Sorry-but payback is a mofo and they been 'warring' with me long enuff. My peaceful streak is gonna end when the bell tolls.

i think a good comparative movie will be 'Dawn of the Dead'.

with the preppers being the uninfected. Unfortunatly the 'zombies' aren't just going to mass against the glass doors they will be shooting and looting.

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Hamilton, have you tried the Stagg Chili mixed with macaroni and cheese? It makes a meal for two adults and two small children. Tastes ok and gives you a break from beans and rice. Even made with powdered milk and margerine it still tastes ok (some cayenne would help the adults enjoy it a little better).

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-- (loonies run rampant! @ we're all. gonna die!!!), January 11, 2001

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During a time of high debt, falling demand and rising prices, the idea that we will enter a recession is not exactly far-fetched. Recessions are painful.

Once you start an economic contraction it is hard to say exactly where it will stop. Just ask Japan.

Also, deep recessions in the USA seem to recur on a 60-70 year cycle. It has been 71 years since the last one. So, it is not unthinkable that Dennis Olson and the other "lunatics" will prove to be like the blind squirrel that now and again finds an acorn.

Their reasoning may not be too sharp, but luck doesn't require reasoning skills. It could happen. But anyone who says they know what the economy will do in the next year is kidding you. They don't.

-- Blind Squirrel (blind_squirrel@finds.acorn), January 12, 2001.

A mild recesion is no reason to go out and buy an arsenal and contemplate killing your neighbors. Sheeesh, get a grip!

-- (life@goes.on), January 12, 2001.

Well, it just might be if the entire reason you "prepped" in the first place was a major-league bust (Y2K). After all, one DOES have to "justify" spending thousands of dollars on ..... rice and beans and ammo :-)

But does anyone one notice the similarities to the "debate" of Y2K? The references to "TSHTF" and "zombies.....looting" and "preppers" and all the other trash talk that was acceptable on the original TB2K? I guess history DOES repeat itself (heh -- and they obviously weren't paying attention because they are doomed again).

My guess: Get used to hearing "we told you so", even though it's past most of their "Y2K deadlines". LOL.

-- (PatriciaS@lasvegas.com), January 12, 2001.

"Also, deep recessions in the USA seem to recur on a 60-70 year cycle. It has been 71 years since the last one."

We had a deep recession in or around 1860, 1870???

I don't remember hearing about that one......

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 12, 2001.

There was a panic/depression/recession in 1857 I believe.

-- BuddyDC (buddydc@go.com), January 12, 2001.

Interesting.

I must have missed that day in history class.....

Ya learn somethin' new everyday whether you want to or not.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 12, 2001.

Don't hold me to that date, but I've been reading about the Civil War a lot lately. It seems there were quite a few panics/recessions in the period from 1800-1860. Not to mention that in the Confederacy there was inflation during the war on the order of 1000%.

Not that I think that the loonies are right about "preparing" for a situation "that makes the dark ages, mad max and terminator look like a Saturday in the Park." LOL!

-- BuddyDC (buddydc@go.com), January 12, 2001.

Deano,

Maybe they were referring to The Great Depression, eh?

Buddy,

We had a doozy of a recession starting in 1895 {I believe it has been reclassified as a depression}. It wiped out luxury developments in my area at the time & has left us with priceless parkland today.

-- flora (***@__._), January 12, 2001.

flora

I realize that's what the dude was refering to (71 yrs ago), however to have a 'cycle' it had to have happened prior to that also.....

The only 'depression' I remember hearing about was The Great Depression.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 12, 2001.

Please forgive Flora.

Maybe she ain't real bright, eh?

-- Teacher (helping@"slow".students), January 12, 2001.

Deanster,

I figgered you were funnin' - just had to wade into the mudpit anyway.

Pardon me while I hop onto a small soapbox: many folks only think about the Great One when it comes to depressions, although they have been a recurring part of business cylces in the past. The general naivete about this gives me pause, 'specially when the average stars-in-the-eyes 'talking head' interpreter comes across as understanding the 'new economy'.

Incoherent rant mode off.

-- flora (***@__._), January 12, 2001.

There have been other depressions, Deano.

I don't know why anyone is surprised by the ex-doomer reaction to recessionary indicators. I'd go so far as to say that they need a recession, psychologically.

One of the wackos in the examples did touch on something that's always worried me, though - the suitcase-nuke idea. They do exist - not many available exactly suitcase size, but small enough and portable enough to conceal. They would bring a lot of money to someone who was looking to sell, and we all know there are people who would be willing to destroy a Western city for "God".

It's a legit threat, not likely to happen, but legit.

-- Bemused (and_amazed@you.people), January 12, 2001.

Uh, that would be the "Panic of 1873"... Stock market crashed, money devalued, "the whole nine yards"... Check your American history...

chewin' on a book...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), January 12, 2001.

So I tiptoes on over to da site.

WHAT the hell are they preppin for now?

Serious question, did I miss it?

Thanks, sumer who 'used to be a GI' now a dgi.

-- sumer (shh@aol.con), January 12, 2001.

Here's a student's quick rundown on the cycles & terms:

http://cobweb.washcoll.edu/Student.Pages/Gus.Pappas/chart1.html

-- CA dimbulb (***@__._), January 12, 2001.

Good Dog! =)

-- (cin@cin.cin), January 12, 2001.

I must say I'm thankful for Y2K in that it got me to prepare for emergencies; living in So. Cal. with the earthquake threat it is always at least a potential concern.

So let's see: beans - check, rice - check, water - check, propane - check ammo - check. I'm set :-))

Frank

P.S. I broke my wood bat at the batting cages recently, and have replaced it with an aluminum one (which I don't like btw) so I guess I have something for inserting " in some anus's." as well.

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), January 12, 2001.

Whoa Teach!

No need to be like that with flora. It looks as though everyone BUT ME knows about the hundreds of depressions in our history.

What got me the most in the above discussion was reference to stocking up on ammo and guns (for a depression??)... I guess I'm a little naive in the "we've got to protect ourselves because they'll kill us and take everything we have" mentality. I just don't get it. I could see stocking up on things like that if WAR were imminent. But for a "possible" little downturn in the economy??? That's just a little paranoid where I come from.

But that's just me.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 12, 2001.

Deano,

Seems like they think that WAR is also just round the corner. Try reading some of this Link to see what else is going on over there in their minds.

-- (look@again.now), January 12, 2001.

Yes, they need a recession, a depression, an Armageddon. Just look at the glee they take in the news of an economic downturn.

Frank-

I'm sort of surprised that you live in So. Cal and needed Y2K to prepare. I grew up in the south and as long as I can remember we've had supplies on hand for tornadoes and hurricanes. Personally, I like MREs for that purpose since you don't have to restock them as often. We didn't do anything special for Y2K, we just threw a theme party.

Of course, it's one thing to keep a week or two of extra food and water around, it's another thing to buy two years of lima beans, ammunition, and dry cat food because you expect roving packs of pollies to come to your door demanding your precious, precious supplies of tampons (nod to Zoobie). Not that you did that, Frank, but we all can think of at least a couple of people who fall into that category.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), January 12, 2001.

Tarzan,

Yeah, I know. I could rationalize that with draining the water heater and toilet tanks for water and having what we usually do in the pantry, I'd get by, but the truth is it was just laziness. With Y2K I made sure that not only will we "get by" in a disaster, we should do so in comfort. Sometimes I just need a good kick in the ass to see the light.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), January 12, 2001.

I take it you weren't living there in '94.

Once, when I was a kid, we spent the whole day in the hallway of our school because of a long train of tornadoes that had swept through our town. This was in the mid-70's I believe and was a highly unusual weather system. Amazingly, no one was killed in our town. It made a huge impression on me.

Tornadoes are weirdly unpredictable and can come with little or no warning (though you usually get at least some warning). A few years ago we had a string of tornadoes in Atlanta. I woke to hear the sirens going off and to hear that characteristic traing sound coming toward our house. We got in the basement, expecting that to be the end of our house and maybe us. Amazingly, the tornado skipped over our house and our neighbors house to drop onto the church across the street. The church was totally flattened, but since no one was inside, no one was hurt.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), January 12, 2001.

look,

No doubt about it my friend. Those folks are scary as hell......

Ya gotta love that worldnutdaily though!! Real investigative journalism there!!

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 12, 2001.

A mild recesion is no reason to go out and buy an arsenal and contemplate killing your neighbors. Sheeesh, get a grip!

-- (life@goes.on), January 12, 2001.

On the bright side, there were no reported cases of Y2K doomers shooting their neighbors a year ago. I don't think "life@goes.on" needs to worry about the EZBoard folks shooting him or his neighbors anytime soon.

There's no need to panic about the panickers...

-- A (voice@of.reason), January 12, 2001.

LOL. Ya gotta love some of those "EZ loonies". From what I can piece together after reading that thread, it would seem there are some sure signs of an impending doom lurking just over the horizon...

* There was a gun shop with a number of customers looking at pistols.

* A local eatery ran out of a number of items they offered on their menu.

* A convenience store ran out of kerosene.

* A post office had no shipping labels on hand.

* A "very dear friend" had been unjustly accused of a crime and was commited to a state mental hospital on the words of a nazi sheriff.

* Local businesses aren't minding the store because they are online checking out TB2K, RunningOnEmpty, dieoff.com, etc.

* Dreams and prophecies - Women running through the looting streets being chased by cops with their arms full of hamburger. Russian invasions and massive deaths in the spring.

Proof-positive that we're on our way to a place that makes the dark ages, mad max and terminator look like a Saturday in the Park.

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), January 12, 2001.

CD

That is hillarious!!! Most certainly signs of the coming Apocalypse. Any idiot who can't see that is......well, he's an idiot!! :-)

Too funny! Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 12, 2001.

CD, you forgot:

* There was a brown dog on the corner. The dog had "shifty" eyes.

Proof positive that a band of roving drug-addicted pollies are going to break in to the doomer bomb shelter and eat all the MRE's. With white wine, no less (because they're liberals.)

-- Bemused (and_amazed@you.people), January 12, 2001.

When you are looking for a rain storm, any cloud will do....

The 50 to 60 year economic "long wave" theory was first proposed by Nikolai Kondratieff in the 1920s. This (and most wave theories in economics) are controversial and generally rejected by neo-classical economists.

There is a technical definition for an economic recession, but not a "depression." Economists disagree as to what constitutes a depression, but most people associate the term with economic collapse of the 1930s. There have been economic downturns since the 1930s, but nothing has come close to the devastation of the Great Depression.

It is also important to understand that the Great Depression was the economic "Perfect Storm." The right combination of events, structural weaknesses in the economy and wrong-headed policy decision combined to make an economic downturn into a decade long nightmare.

"Doomers" are social hypochondriacs. Every twinge is a sign of terminal cancer. Sure, a pain in the stomach could be a malignant lump the size of a cannonball... but chances are it's just indigestion.

-- Ken Decker (kcdecker@att.net), January 12, 2001.

The 50 to 60 year economic "long wave" theory was first proposed by Nikolai Kondratieff in the 1920s. This (and most wave theories in economics) are controversial and generally rejected by neo-classical economists.

Most of the people who really had a feel for what happened in the 1920s and '30s are now either dead or no longer running the country, Ken. For years, memories of what happened then kept speculation from getting out of hand.

In my opinion, the repeal of the Glass-Stegal Act a couple of years ago -- passed in the 1930s to prevent the excesses of the '20s from ever happening again -- is a sign of just how much we've forgotten.

-- History may or may (not@repeat.itself), January 12, 2001.

I didn't spell that right. It's the Glass-Steagall Act.

-- History may or may (not@repeat.itself), January 12, 2001.

Doomers" are social hypochondriacs

LMAO, good one Ken :-) social hypochondriacs....still LMAO.

-- sumer (shh@aol.con), January 12, 2001.

looking@again.now

For the heck of it I went to the link you provided. Man! How do people keep finding things to scare themselves half-to death? Imagine always looking for the next war, the next disaster, the next chemtrail poisoning.

(Thinking about y2k wiped me out and now they’ve gone on to things like this? Stop The Madness!!! ;-)

Definitely my favorite quote (and there were *so* many) was: "Those in power are going to have their New World Order at all costs! It is going to happen in full scale! Be warned and get spiritually prepared; for many are about to exit the Earth."

BOO!!!!

Yikes, how can you read this stuff day after day after day without going completely insane? (Although I suppose that’s *exactly* your point ;-)

Mar.

-- Not now, not like this (AgentSmith0110@aol.com), January 12, 2001.

With all due respect, "History," we understand more about the Great Depression now. The reason the Great Depression last over a decade was that people did not understand the underlying economics.

Insofar as the repeal of Glass-Steagal, I think we'll have to wait to find out what happens. Please note that Glass-Steagal emerged from the idea that bank failures were related to speculative stock investing. In fact, the bank failures of the Great Depression were an effective lack of any banking regulation. The banking system of the 1920s was a sprawl of local banks, often undercapitalized and poorly managed. Even without Glass-Steagal, banks and financial institutions are much more closely regulated today than in the 1920s. Oh, and many financial institutions had been exploiting Glass-Steagal loopholes for years before the change in legislation.

When I was a boy, I had a savings account in the local bank tracked by a heavy, clothbound passbook. Today, I float money between banks, brokerages and other financial services firms with the click of a mouse. The local bank can no longer count on my business because they are the local bank. They have to compete with other firms for my money... and I think this is a good thing.

-- Ken Decker (kcdecker@att.net), January 12, 2001.

Mar,

That was my point exactly. I sometimes pop over there to get a few chuckles. Wonder what the next "BIG" thing will be?

-- (look@again.now), January 12, 2001.

MY GOD!!!

If Gateway and Hewlett Packard aren't selling as many computers as they did last year, that surely means the entire World is going to come unglued! This has been prophesized in the Book of Revelations!

-- Nostradufus (end@times.here), January 12, 2001.

>Wonder what the next "BIG" thing will be?

Mass speculation as to whether Clinton is going to leave office and what to do if he doesn't.

-- (dis@enfranch.ised), January 13, 2001.

Next weekend, the EZ-freaker-outers will be convinced that Jesse Jackson got a hold of a nuke suitcase and he is going to set it off at Dubya's inaugauration.

-- (hee hee @ bet. ya), January 13, 2001.

looking@again.now

I don't know what their next "big" thing will be, but definately keep me posted... This stuff is like no other!

Mar. ;-)

(I bet the "Freemasons" will come around sometime soon)

-- Not now, not like this (AgentSmith0110@aol.com), January 13, 2001.

Hey, give them a break! After all, they can give you some much needed information such as;
" By the way, Goddess Venus is not technically or otherwise a "spirit Being". She is a 144th dimensional Divine Creator Being. There is a BIG difference."

and

"The rain won’t hurt the rhubarb if it is in the can."

-- Cherri (jessam5@home.com), January 17, 2001.

Cherri: "She is a 144th dimensional Divine Creator Being. There is a BIG difference."

LMAO...!

Mar.

-- Not now, not like this (AgentSmith0110@aol.com), January 17, 2001.