updates and questions (shallow water hand pump)

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I have been so busy and lazy I have not kept up w/ the posts I wrote. So I figure I'll do it all in one.

The well...thanks for all the great ideas We received, so far it is just capped. We have had a hard time finding a hand pump that will go deeper then 25 ft. any idea?

the children....the twins are getting better but I have a feeling the other 2 maybe getting it,they both took naps today,not a good sign!

The cool stuff we found....our total find is 1 skillet ,1 pot/lid and 2 sad{sp}irons. I still cant figure why they were there or how old they are.

the neighbor from hell...cant say to much about her right now except she has finaly backed off!!

the sunroom...we have passed 2 inspections so far 2 to go.

Christmas stuff...all the packages went out today so be looking for them.

e-bay...I filed all the "paper work" waitting to hear back.

The in-laws...well lets not go there! Anyone else think we should postpone Christmas ? maybe for a month? I do

The time limit I put on myself for finding my dad has just about ran out,so I will be closing that chapter in my life soon. Thanks to everyone who helped and gave ways to help the search continue.

well thats about it for now,the sleet has started and they are calling for it all night, love those ice storms{haha}.

-- renee oneill{md.} (oneillsr@home.com), December 13, 2000


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I forgot the big one!!! thanks to all who helped bring Christmas the "countryside}kids who's families needed alittle help this year!!! I know I could not have done it all!!!!!

-- renee oneill{md.} (oneillsr@home.com), December 13, 2000.

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There are basically two types of hand water pumps.

The typical pitcher pumps, such as you see in a kitchen, can only lift water for up to 20 feet since it works through a suction action. Think of it this way. You can suck water through a straw since the vacumm action is high and the distance short. However, say you drop a garden hose out of a third-story window and try to manually suck up water. At some point the weight of the water overcomes the draw of the vacumm. You can somewhat extend this a bit by doing what Jay did and reduce the draw pipe size to 3/4". Here you have the same vacumm draw, but a reduced water weight in the pipe. One problem with these is even a pin-hole in the gasket will allow water to drain out of the pipe. When this happens you have to prime the pump by pouring water down the uptake pipe until it is full. This can be overcome by putting an anti-syphon valve at the end of the pipe.

Over 20' you would need a deep well pump, such as was typically used in yards and for windmills. Here the lift pump cylinder is at the bottom of the uptake pipe and is activated by a rod which operates inside the pipe between the handle and lift pump cylinder. The water is not drawn up the pipe, but rather forced up it. The lift pump cylinder is, in itself, an anti-syphon valve. For the pump- head, pipe, rods and lift pump you are looking at something under $200 for everything you would need.

Yet another type of hand pump had two pumping cylinders and was used to pump water from shallow wells or cisterns into upstairs storage tanks, normally in the attic, or into storage tanks often seen next to windmills. The water then was gravity fed to inside plumbing.

See the Lehman's catalog or website.

-- Ken S. in WC TN (scharabo@aol.com), December 14, 2000.

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Hang in there! Trying to live a "simple" life sometimes gets complicated!!!

-- Suzy in 'Bama (slgt@yahoo.com), December 14, 2000.

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