Bush Says He'll 'Soon' Be President
By Terence Hunt AP White House Correspondent Saturday, Dec. 2, 2000; 8:59 p.m. EST George W. Bush flatly asserted Saturday, "I'm soon to be the president" and met with GOP congressional leaders as if to prove it. Al Gore sought a recount before a Florida judge as both candidates awaited a U.S. Supreme Court decision that could untangle their election impasse. All nine Supreme Court justices were at work, a day after hearing arguments in the case. There was no indication when the high court would rule. Florida's Republican-controlled Legislature was poised to meet in special session Wednesday to consider naming a slate of 25 electors for Bush to protect against any court decision erasing his victory, House Majority Leader Mike Fasano said. However, Senate President John McKay said he still had not reviewed a committee report recommending the session. "I will not call a special session on Monday," he said. Despite the legal challenges, Republicans continued to prod the vice president to abandon his challenge. "George W. Bush is rightfully our president-elect," Ohio Gov. Bob Taft said in the GOP's weekly radio address. "We should not prolong a constitutional impasse that could prevent the timely transition of presidential power." Gore spent a quiet day in Washington, chatting over lunch with actor Tommy Lee Jones, his college roommate and longtime friend. Meanwhile, the vice president's lawyers tried to persuade a judge in Tallahassee to count 14,000 disputed ballots from South Florida. Attorney David Boies said the contested ballots in heavily Democratic Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties could "place in doubt" Bush's 537-vote victory margin certified by Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris. Gore previously has predicted he would win if all the votes were counted. Bush's attorneys filed counter motions and said any recount should be expanded to include all votes cast in Volusia and Broward counties, where Gore benefitted from recanvasses shortly after the election. Bush's lawyers also sought to negate a Seminole County lawsuit filed by Democrats to throw out about 15,000 absentee ballots, which would cost Bush a net of 4,797 votes. Kimball Brace, an election expert called by Gore's side, said a hand count is the "only way of finding out exactly how many votes were cast" for each candidate. Brace, president of Election Data Services, tried to show various ways Floridians intending to vote for Gore could have failed to fully punch their ballots, instead creating impressions called dimples. Under cross examination by Bush lawyer Phil Beck, Brace acknowledged that indentations could also have resulted simply the handling of the ballots. "If I were to rub my finger across it, that could create an indentation and that obviously should not be counted as intention to vote," Brace testified. Gore's lawyers also presented testimony from a statistician, Nicolas Hengartner of Yale University. Saturday's hearing in Leon County Circuit Court stretched over nine hours before being recessed until 9 a.m. Sunday. The day ended with testimony by an expert in rubber and plastics, Richard Grossman, who was called by Bush's attorneys to talk about material used in voting machines. Bush retreated to his ranch, meeting with House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott to discuss Republican legislative priorities for the new Congress. The meeting appeared intended to project an aura of inevitability of a Bush presidency, court cases notwithstanding. The governor expressed concern about a "potential slowdown" in the economy, citing concerns about auto sales and rising energy prices. He said he would work with congressional leaders to "prepare a plan that will keep the economy going." Lott said that he hoped to be able to move on Bush appointments quickly. Lott noted, however, that "in the Senate, we've got a very delicate situation" with a 50-50 split between Republicans and Democrats. Lott joked that Cheney, who could cast the tie breaking vote as vice president, might be needed a lot. Later, in an interview with The Associated Press, Hastert said he hopes Congress doesn't have to become involved in selecting the next president, but "if we have to do our constitutional duty we'll certainly do that." Sitting before the fireplace at his ranch house, Bush unabashedly declared, "I'm soon to be the insider. I'm soon to be the president." He promised to reach out as president to Democratic leaders, saying he already had talked with Sen. John Breaux of Louisiana. Breaux is among a number of Democrats that Bush advisers have suggested for a Bush administration slot. But Bush said he recognized that "it might put him in an awkward position" to be directly discussing a role for Breaux. In new polling, a declining majority of the public says it is most important to come to the correct resolution. A new Newsweek poll found that 52 percent said all reasonable doubts should be removed, down from 72 percent who felt that way immediately after the election. Forty-four percent of those surveyed said it's more important to get matters resolved, compared to 25 percent right after the election. Twenty-five days after the election, the legal battle inched forward in Florida a day after two setbacks for Gore. The state Supreme Court on Friday refused to order an immediate hand recount of the 14,000 ballots, sending the case into a hearing that stretched through Saturday. In another decision, the court refused to order a new election in Palm Beach County, rejecting a plea from voters who contested the design of the county's "butterfly ballot." Forced to argue their case, Gore's lawyers staged a courtroom demonstration of how the election count could be skewered by ballot problems. Bush attorney Barry Richard said no more recounts should be allowed, calling Gore's request "contrary to the long-standing and clearly established law of the state." He accused the Gore team of trying to get the court to alter the course of the election to reach "a destination that he must arrive at in order to win." Circuit Judge N. Sanders Sauls, a registered Democrat appointed by a Republican governor, presided over the hearing. He has the power to order a correction to Florida's official results which gave Bush the 537 vote margin. In Palm Beach County, officials announced a final adjustment to their recount total, reducing Gore's net gain of votes in the recount from 188 to 174. The state has refused to accept those recount numbers because they weren't completed by last Sunday's 5 p.m. deadline. © Copyright 2000 The Associated Press

-- Uncle Bob (unclb0b@aol.com), December 03, 2000

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Oh Boy!! We can't wait! He is our hero! Americans are jumping with joy!

-- John (Q.@Public.Idiot), December 03, 2000.

"I'm soon to be the president. (Poppy's friends fixed it allllllllll up for me.)" He may be right, but I think I'd go light on the chutzpah until after the swearing-in.

-- I'm Here, I'm There, (I'm Everywhere,@So.Beware), December 03, 2000.

Under cross examination by Bush lawyer Phil Beck, Brace acknowledged that indentations could also have resulted simply the handling of the ballots. "If I were to rub my finger across it, that could create an indentation and that obviously should not be counted as intention to vote," Brace testified.

Although Bush looks weak not wanting to hand count all of the votes, this does lend credence to his position.

-- Dr. Pibb (dr.pibb@zdnetonebox.com), December 03, 2000.

Dr.:

"If I were to rub my finger across it, that could create an indentation and that obviously should not be counted as intention to vote,"

I read that, too, but I don't remember Brace saying that, and I watched the entire testimony yesterday. I remember him being asked if fingers could leave indentations, and demonstrating how many times fingers were involved in putting the ballot into the "throat" of the machine, etc., but even he noted that his finger NAILS were nowhere near the ballot, and that it would take a VERY, VERY, VERY small finger to poke out a chad, and [my inference here] a VERY tiny finger nail to produce a dimple that would resemble the impact of a stylus [which, regardless of type used had a tip no larger than a pinhead.]

I'll check the transcripts for this one.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 03, 2000.

I hope I'm not closing tags by starting a new one.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 03, 2000.

Kimball Brace, an election expert ... president of Election Data Services...

"Expert..." "Ex" = has-been. "Spurt" = Drip under pressure.

Doc, I've worked with these things "in the field" -- not from what some company CEO says on the stand. They're fragile, but not that fragile (my experience with them goes back a few years, so I admit that along with the general Cheapening-Down of America, they may be made with thinner stock than they used to be). I've never seen a circumstance where merely running your finger across the card will cause an indentation -- unless you're really trying for that result.

-- I'm Here, I'm There, (I'm Everywhere,@So.Beware), December 03, 2000.

Just another comment, but I've found these legal proceedings VERY interesting. This morning, Phil Beck [attorney for the Bush side] introduced Mr. Ahmann as a witness on these voting machines. Throughout Mr. Ahmann's testimony and Phil Beck's questioning, I had to wonder whose side Phil Beck was on. This witness was certainly a straight shooter, and cross-examination [which just ended] proved my thoughts on that. The guy tried and tried to get some Florida counties to go with voting devices that were more reliable [as in HIS patented devices], but they chose to go with what they had. I don't see how the judge could have come out of that testimony with a different impression than I...which was...these devices suck, and should have been upgraded YEARS ago.

On another topic, the statistician introduced today to counter the statistician produced by the Gore team yesterday is, apparently, the one used to counter statistics in many legal cases, including one wherein he disputed that lead paint chips were hazardous to the health of children. Of course the court refused to include his prior court testimonies, but not until after the general watching public learned this about him. I'm sure that the judge [who is deciding this case] has a mindset wherein he can dismiss this, but as an interested observer, I saw this statistician as the hired Flint. [grin] The guy is hired to dispute whatever the other side's statistician said.

Y'all can be as impatient on this election as you like, but I feel I'm, personally, benefitting from the opportunity to see what's going on behind the scenes in the Florida Judicial System. I'd like to see that "sunshine law" throughout the U.S.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 03, 2000.