Devoted seekers of the light should meet tomorrow (Saturday) at noon at 6th & Howard in front of Defenestration (The big building with all the furniture flying out the windows. You can't miss it.) If you don't see us downstairs, go to the Howard St. side of the building and knock on the door LOUDLY.

There we will prepare for the event, imbibe sacred beverages, and at about 2 pm we will depart to make our religious pilgrimage to the sacred Microsoft Store in the Metreon at 4th & Mission.

We have procured monastic robes for the flock. All you need to bring is a reverent attitude and any holy relics you may possess (Windows installation disks, manuals, laptops, etc.) Wear sandals if you like.

The event will be filmed for a documentary which will be aired on Ch. 4 in Britain.

(If this event goes well, we may plan to stage another pilgrimage, to the Microsoft SF Sales Office on Dec. 9th to bask in the radiance of their Grand Opening party for their new headquarters at 1 Market St.)

-- Mike Kupietz (junkmail@greentortoise.com), December 01, 2000

Answers

WTF nothing happened at 2pm ?

Cops were there.

Security was there.

Cameras were there.

-- Godot (schoppenhauer@nietzsche.org), December 03, 2000.

Not sure if you are asking or telling here -- but yeah, we got stopped by a plainclothesman and asked to leave the property (=arrest if we don't comply) before we could get in the door. Don't recognize your email address... were you with us, or inside watching?

-- Mike (junkmail@greentortoise.com), December 04, 2000.

I was inside. TV crew was also waiting :-)

Of course you got stopped - your mail list is PUBLIC. People read it.

(you really thought that "nietzsche.org" exists ? :-)

-- Godot (schoppenhauer@nietzsche.org), December 04, 2000.

At 5:21 PM +0000 12/4/00, schoppenhauer@nietzsche.org wrote: Godot (schoppenhauer@nietzsche.org) responded to a message you left in the Cacophony bboard:

Subject: Response to Microsoft Pilgrimage event (Sat. 12/2)

> I was inside. TV crew was also waiting :-)

Yeah, they were with us; just went in a few minutes ahead.

Did you say the COPS were there, too? How many cops/security were there? We sent in an advance scout a few minutes before us, and he there was only the one security guard. (Be aware the Metreon guards' badges look like cops'.)

> Of course you got stopped - your mail list is PUBLIC. > People read it.

Right, but you have to subscribe to be on it... there's only 300 people, and we know who they are. Usually it takes posting to the Squid List or something of that stature for our target to be aware of what we're doing beforehand; and then, usually it's a two-way street and we find out that they are aware. Hmmm... maybe they saw it on this forum, which is much less secure in my opinion than the egroups list (no registration required, fake email addresses can be used, etc.) I guess posting events to this forum is a bad idea.

Personally, I had thought that they got clued in because we waited around too long in the nearby vicinity with our robes on before approaching and someone tipped them off. But if it was cops you saw waiting for us, that's a different picture.

> (you really thought that "nietzsche.org" exists ? :-)

No, I figured it was a fake name, that's why I asked. Do you work there or something?

-- (junkmail@greentortoise.com), December 04, 2000.

>> Of course you got stopped - your mail list is PUBLIC. > People read it. >Right, but you have to subscribe to be on it... there's only 300 people, and we know

Is this SF Naivety Society ?

You *don't* have to be subscribed.

I mean, really, you didn't know that your list (and on e-groups, too) is available to anyone with a web browser and that you have no means of finding who reads it ?

God !

Ot.

-- Godot (schoppenhauer@nietzsche.org), December 04, 2000.

Well, I was there, and there were no cops, and the only camera crew was ours, and there was no extra security. The only reason security stopped us was because there was one guy on a smoke break - who hadn't been there 5 minutes before when the camera crew went in.

Go troll somewhere else.

-- Booger-head (purple@thoughtpolice.com), December 05, 2000.

> Is this SF Naivety Society ?

No, and I don't like your attitude.

> You *don't* have to be subscribed. I mean, really, you didn't know that your list (and on e-groups, too) is available to anyone with a web browser and that you have no means of finding who reads it ?

Yeah, I knew, and come to think of it, you're right... the Metreon probably does keep someone on staff to constantly monitor sf-caco to make sure we're not planning anything involving them (that's the only way they could know it was there, since the page with the message giving the date & had not been spidered yet for the search engines.)

Anyway, I realized they hadn't been expecting us, because they didn't ask us to leave until they had thoroughly checked our story ... if they were expecting us they wouldn't have bothered - they would have known off the bat.

You're over-paranoid (which would jibe with using a fake email address.) Fortunately caco is still pretty much "under the radar". If there was anyone monitoring our list, there's no way we would have gotten away with some of the stuff we've gotten away with recently. They weren't forewarned. This particular one we simply flubbed on the spot.

-- (junkmail@greentortoise.com), December 05, 2000.