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Back to Ruby Ridge,
Here are a few links,
This is the Department of Justice report on the Ruby Ridge incident. Link
An NRA article with some sensationalizing is here Link
FBI Section Chief's guilty plea for trying to destroy evidence of their report, to keep it from the Idaho P.D. Link
-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), November 20, 2000
Ruby Ridge is a dark spot on the FBI's record. The agents involved operated without a conscience, like the Nazis of WW2. Clear they all should be prosecuted for murder. And the FBI needs some new policies on deadly force. Weaver was never a danger to anyone.
-- johnn littmann (email@example.com), November 21, 2000.
The part that gets me is that the "rules for engagement" for the FBI were changed to allow them to SHOOT any armed male who appeared outside of Weaver's cabin (regardless of whether or not they were doing anything threatening). Standing on your own land in the wilderness, having your wife who's inside your house killed by an FBI bullet. Is this what the founders had in mind for us? In the words of the Department of Justice,
" We also found serious problems with theterms of the Rules of Engagement in force at Ruby Ridge. Certain portions of these Rules not only departed from the FBI'sstandard deadly force policy but also contravened the Constitution of the United States.
-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), November 21, 2000.
Yeah, what kind of world is it when a white supremecist can't kill an agent on his own property without being shot at?
Sounds like it's time to go blow up some more daycare centers!
-- The Lessons of Ruby Ridge (firstname.lastname@example.org), November 21, 2000.
What kind of a world is it when fatigue clad commandos can come onto your property and provoke a firefight by killing your dog?
It must be a world where Americans are persecuted for their politically incorrect views of believing in racial separation.
It also must be a world where idiots like you can't even spell a simple word like, "supremacist".
-- J (Y2J@home.comm), November 21, 2000.
Spelling flames are lame.
-- Tarzan the Ape Man (email@example.com), November 21, 2000.
Tarzan is much lamer.
-- Too many (firstname.lastname@example.org), November 21, 2000.
For a lame treeswinger, he sure does seem to kick a lot of ass around here.
-- March For Bullshit (email@example.com), November 21, 2000.