JESUS/GOD said love your enemy!! then comes preacher fatstuff & tell,s IGNORANT soul,s,that GOD is going to burn all his enemies forever in torment'yada yada yada! and JESUS say,s on cross to FATHER in heaven->father forgive them for they know NOT what they do!!HE [JESUS] also said''GOD IS LOVE'' SO WHERE DID THIS-MEAN OLD GOD IN THE SKY-COME FROM??

THE TRUE[FATHER GOD] IS WELL ABLE TO CHANGE A HEART!! and he doesn,t do it by TORTURE!! *HE WILL IN HIS TIME-RESTORE HIS ENEMIES,BY THE POWER OF LOVE*

-- a-d. (dogs@zianet.com), October 25, 2000

Answers

ok. I,LL TAKE A LEAVE OF ABSENCE!! GONNA SPEND SOME QUALITY TIME IN HEAVEN!! see ya when i get back!!

-- 1 of his kids (dogsRsmart@zianet.com), October 25, 2000.

Al-d,

You go boy....

And regarding the question... No, but he hasn't spoken to us in awhile...

"I don't have a problem with God, it's his followers I have a problem with..." (my new mantra) (hee, hee, hee...)

(snicker)

watchin' the rain...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), October 25, 2000.

Al...since you insist onj spreading these false truths all over, I am forced to repeat what I stated in an earlier thread.

I will post my previous reply on my next post below here.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 25, 2000.

Al...A belief does not constitute or replace the word of God. If you have scripture to back up your statements as I have in refuting what you have been saying, bring them forth. Lets see what Gods word has to say.

1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 Peter 2:1-3

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Gods word is eternal. Mans changing of Gods word is Prideful and blasphemous.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 25, 2000.

Al-D you said: *HE WILL IN HIS TIME-RESTORE HIS ENEMIES,BY THE POWER OF LOVE*

Satan and his fallen angels (demons) are God's only enemies. No where is the bible does it say Satan will be restored to his previously held high position in God's kingdom. In fact, it says quite the opposite.

Scriptur says that Satan is a liar and the father of all lies.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 25, 2000.

mr. I believe, your carnal-interpritation-is why the world has a major-dislike for [your brand of christianity] even they have enough SENSE to realize=REALIZE tha if they can love =LOVE there kids un- conditianally how much MORE does GOD love lost-souls,that HE birthed! PLEASE do YOURSELF a study on fire-throughout scripture!! on the day of PENTECOST ,they we,re baptized with FIRE. hmmmmm fire of the holy spirit hmmmmmmm! and they had more spiritual- understanding -bro. you need some fire to get rid of satanic- deception! FIRE=PURIFIES!! GET IT! ST. PETER SAID OUR FAITH WOULD BE TESTED BY fire=GET IT?? *JESUS died for the sins of the WORLD[all mankind]those that deny him now & those that lived selfish-life-will be purified-not annihilated!!

-- just al (puppie minded@zianet.com), October 25, 2000.

There is no substitute for God's word. My 'brand' is Gods Holy living word. I add nothing to it for it is perfect.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 25, 2000.

Wow. I sense a holy war is about to break out 'tween Al-d and "I believe in Him".

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), October 25, 2000.

CD, the correct word would be JIHAD...

You ever notice that no one else ever "cross-examines" these two anymore??? They have to "cross-examine" each other....

"I don't have a problem with God, it's his followers I have a problem with..."

hikin' the leg on the crystal cathedral...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), October 25, 2000.

"I don't have a problem with God, it's his followers I have a problem with..."

hikin' the leg on the crystal cathedral...

I agree with you. Organized religion is a lie and a shame. Jesus did not make denominations...he made His church. One chuch not 100 denominations!

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 25, 2000.

Damn Dog, put yer leg down and BEHAVE....

Besides, there's a Jihad a fixin to happen and its not polite to pee in public.

-- consuemr (shh@aol.com), October 25, 2000.

SOUNDS GOOD I-BELIEVE, chew on this-> JESUS[SAID] MANY will say LORD ,LORD [ON THAT DAY] & HE WILL SAY,DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU!! NEVER KNEW YOU-GET IT!! HEY the pharisees said they understood the WORD OF GOD & they killed JESUS/GOD! think,think JESUS CAME TO SAVE,THAT WHICH WAS LOST-HOW MANY ARE LOST?? and he [jesus] left the ninty-nine & went searching for the last lost sheep!! just because many don,t believe now[lost] doesn,t mean they won,t be found!! oh by the way-those cast into outer darkness-where theres weeping & wailing & gnashing of teeth!! [mind darkened by religion] weeping endures for the night-but JOY comes in the morning!!get it?? JESUS said ->no flesh can enter heaven [carnal-mind]the bible must be illuminated by HOLY-SPIRIT->not- >carnal-mind] NOW do you get it?? too many carnally minded preachers!!-do you get this ->ALL DIED IN ADAM-ALL SAVED BY CHRIST! if we we,re ALL born sinner,s because of adam[not our fault]then GOD would be very cruel to destroy ANY soul/spirit FOR SOMETHING THEY ''can,t'' change!!HELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO! OH & BY THE WAY MR. SELF-RIGHTEOUS ''JESUS SAID no man can come- unless the SPIRIT ''draws them!! get it! so what are un-believer,s?? why UN-DRAWED ONES DUMMY!! & I,M NOT TALKING ABOUT UNDERSHORTS!! JESUS said he,s coming for a church-without spot or wrinkle-man the church has so many spots & wrinkles it,s spooky!! until the church GROWS UP-what do you expect from the poor lost- world??---but praise GOD -HE has his hidden ones,that HE is maturing in HIS presence! not in a building-listening to a anti-christ - apostate -PREACHER!!selling book.s & tapes & t-shirts!! GOD is NOT in program,s of[get rich] preachers! JESUS said->freely i have given-now go & give freely!! *GOD WANT,S =SONS--NOT FEAR RIDDEN-SLAVES!! so what if some lost ones-love sin-hey little kids eat doo-doo! p.s. mr. self-righteuos 1-GOD does not have maalox-moment,s just because everyone,doesn,t get it yet!! >the end of the story hasn,t happened yet!! and by the way-GOD said be led by the SPIRIT--not carnal-theology!!!

-- LIE-BUSTER!! (DOGS@ZIANET.COM), October 25, 2000.

read youe post again mr/ms i-believe, you use the scripture refering to false prophet,s who deny the LORD,who decieve for $$$-HEY I AIN,T ASKED YOU FOR JACK-SQUAT HOMIE!! & my shameful way,s? er um tell me ALL about my shameful way,s?? you don,t even know me!! p.s. i,v e never denied my loving LORD! next[out-of-context] zinger please!! YEEEHAW!!

-- crackin-up!! (dogs@zianet.com), October 25, 2000.

Rapper Al.

Hip hop, to the hippy hippy hop and bang bang da boogie to the tune of the reverend D...

Scoobie boobie he bop do, guess what al, Alla loves you!!!

Now my name is sumer and dont think i'm a bummer cuz I can rap with the best of you, so tell us Al, how do you do?

Say, I believe you are to cool, dont fret our al, cuz hes the rude dude.

Keep on jammin there I believe cuz you da bomb, In that we believe.

Ok, so now i'm off dont just sit come on off your doff, see you too can rap right on, consumers off and now ALL GONE.

hee hee

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), October 25, 2000.

Oh Lord, peyote's easier on the body than this thread.

Say goodnight Gracie...

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), October 25, 2000.

Nite Bingo :-)

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), October 25, 2000.

GOD would be very cruel to destroy ANY soul/spirit FOR SOMETHING THEY ''can,t'' change!

All sin. All MUST accept that Christ died in in our place for our own sin.

Romans 3:23

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Not by how hot the flames of the lake of fire get..but by Christ Jesus and Christ alone.

Romans 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death, (THIS MEANS YOU HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO DEATH) but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (THIS MEANS ,BY ACCEPTING JESUS AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR, YOU CHEAT DEATH AND HAVE ETERNAL LIFE)

Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven. No other way!

Al...Gods word says in John 3:55 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

John 3:16-18 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, [6] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. [7]

John 3:18 does not say some are condemned until purified by flame it says comdemned and whoever believes in him IS NOT CONDEMNED.

Al I put on the Armor of God and use the sword of the spirit which is the word of God for the truths I post and God speaks here.

Ephesians 6:13-17

13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Al you also said:OH & BY THE WAY MR. SELF-RIGHTEOUS ''JESUS SAID n

Al, my righeousness is but filthy rags. I use the word of God to bring forth His truth..not mine.

Thats all for me tonight Al. May God Bless you and give you peace.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 25, 2000.

nuthin personal bro. i used to believe the lie too!

Gods word is truth. Man changes Gods word...that is the lie!

Matthew 24:35

35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Luke 13:23-28

23 Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?" He said to them, 24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house (GOD) gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, `Sir, open the door for us.' "But he will answer, `I don't know you or where you come from.' 26 "Then you will say, `We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.' 27 "But he will reply, `I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!' 28 "There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.

Al, show me in the word of God, not mans word (your word) where the fire from the lake of fire will purify all for admittance into heaven.

Fire purifies, providing there is good mixed with the impurities=SIN within us. Jesus=the good. His purifying fire cleanses our sin. Good is within us IF we accept Christ NOW. If we are exposed to fire without the good of Christ we are simply burnt up...nothing is left.

Think about it.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 26, 2000.

BUT_>ALL ALL ALL WE,RE MADE ALIVE IN CHRIST

All were made alive IN CHRIST=ACCEPTING HIM

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), October 26, 2000.

poor i-believe, you still DON,T GET IT!! jesus SAID =NO-ONE CAN COME unless DRAWN BY SPIRIT!! TRYING TO force SALVATION DOWN THE THROAT IS =RELIGION!! YOUR GOD IS TOO SMALL! GET REVALATION BRO. REVELATION!! many things JESUS said ,we,re spiritual-concept,s-the carnal-mind doesn,t GET IT!!hence the doctrine of a mean un-bending god! please try to get it,'what isn,t finished on this side of physical- life=WIIL BE FINISHED IN HEAVEN!!let GOD BE GOD and all men liars! what all men??the ones who don,t =GET IT!! the PROMISE given to abraham-that in his SEED=CHRIST ''ALL nations would be blessed!!all died in adam---ALL are=will be made alive in CHRIST!!---GET REVELATION--OF THE MASTER-PLAN!! you say''i only go by GODS WORD!! SO DID THE PHARiSeeS=blind=guides!! do you LOVE your=unbelieving neighbor'as yourself?? pray & get out of the way!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), October 26, 2000.

P.S. the heavens & earth'that will pass away-is the wrong thinking of religion!! heavens=mind---earth--body!! so is GOD gonna destroy his heaven where he lives?? duh??? gee JESUS said ASK=PRAY thy kingdom come-thy will be done=ON EARTH!! WHY WOULD HE DESTROY=EARTH IF HE WANT,S HIS KINGDOM HERE?? ST. PAUL said we shall be kings & priest,s unto GOD!! SOME ARE KINGS & PRIEST,S NOW!!PRAYING THY WILL-BE DONE!! WHAT IS GODS WILL-THAT ALL BE SAVED!! GET IT?? if you don,t LOVE ALL MANKIND-THEN YOUR NOT LIKE JESUS!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), October 26, 2000.