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CNN AIRS ALLEGATION: BUSH INVOLVED IN ABORTION

All-news channel CNN on Friday aired allegations that Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush was involved in an abortion in the 1970's.

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"We've found out in the early 1970s Bush was involved in an abortion in Texas," HUSTLER publisher Larry Flynt reported on CNN.

Flynt did not offer specifics.

CNN stunned the jounalistic community by airing the claims without evidence.

The Bush campaign immediately blasted the network.

"CNN's standards have hit a new low, if that is even possible!" slammed one senior Bush source from Austin. "It appears the liberal media is becoming desperate as Election Day nears."

-- sorority girl (told@you.so), October 21, 2000

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So what? Dr. Laura says it is okay to tell other people they are wrong to do something, even if you did the same thing in the past, like posing nude for magazines. The important thing is that she and Bush have changed, and become better than everyone else. That doesn't mean they are hypocritical, it's just that they are better than the people they criticize.

-- (Bush is @ good man. now), October 21, 2000.

Ah, yes...neither confirm nor deny the allegations but be sure to immediately cast aspersions on CNN as the morally reprehensible Bad Guy while you scramble behind the scenes to mobilize the Damage Control Team. It would be funny if the twisted transparency weren't so sad.

-- Politics (Gotcha@SelfRighteousness.com), October 21, 2000.

Wasn't he married then? Uh-oh, his wife Laura is going to be even more pissed about this than Hillary was about the Monica hummer.

-- (Dubya.in@deep.doodoo), October 21, 2000.

"I used to involve children in satanic practices and eat them afterwards. But, hey, I stopped doing that ten years ago -- it was just a youthful indescretion. I'm a really good person now. Really. I'm compassionate, and what's more, I'm better than you are. Vote for me."

-- Dr. Laura Dubya (Better'n'You@You.Bet), October 21, 2000.

CNN cites vague innuendo from a pornographer as the source of breaking news? Larry Flynt, the moral conscience of the Establishment. What's next, asking for investigative reporting on Republican candidates from the weird fat kid you knew in school, the one who had all the dirty pictures?

-- Scarecrow (Somewhere@over.rainbow), October 21, 2000.

You know things aren't going well when they bring Larry Flint and his dirt out ;)

I wondered how long it would take until this was posted here. Will we be seeing the links to Gore's early involvment with the guy who created the "God Hates Fags" website next, including the photos?

The last days of the election, and things are starting to smell a bit....

-- David (David@bzn.com), October 21, 2000.

Heck, Bush was so high on drugs and alcohol in those days, I doubt he even remembers all the girls he knocked up and all the abortions. Wouldn't be suprised either if some of the girls chose to forego the abortion, and he has several illegitimate bastards running around.

-- (Shrub Junior @ the party. animal), October 21, 2000.

It would be truly refreshing if any of you idiots would offer any concrete proof whatsoever that you have any clue what the hell you're talking about.

-- Chicken Little (y2k@whatajoke.net), October 21, 2000.

Hey, Larry Flynt was right about Dan Burton the hypocrite wasn't he???

-- Larry's got big bucks (money.talks@bullshit.walks), October 21, 2000.

Scarecrow said "CNN cites vague innuendo from a pornographer as the source of breaking news? Larry Flynt, the moral conscience of the Establishment."

Scarecrow...even more proof that CNN is liberal bent, with a heavy accent on BENT. Excellent reply..btw.

-- Scarecrow is Right (Toto@the.sidelines), October 21, 2000.

My guess is that the full information will break the last week of October. Whatever you have to say about the man, he is the master of these things.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), October 21, 2000.

CNN didn't know what Flynt was going to reveal. He simply said that he wanted to say something about politics. Then again, I don't know if "Crossfire" is live or taped. If it's taped, CNN could have cut it.

OTOH, the liberal internet media has been waiting for Flynt to reveal this story for MONTHS. He was on CNN's internet chat after the show and had this to say:

"When I said that we had the proof, I'm referring to knowing who the girl was, knowing who the doctor was that performed the abortion, evidence from the girlfriends of hers at the time, who knew about the romance and the subsequent abortion.

The young lady does not want to go public, and without her willingness, we don't feel that we're on solid enough legal ground to go with the story, because should she say it never happened, then we've got a potential libel suit. But we know we have enough evidence that we believe completely. One of the things that interested us was that this abortion took place before Roe vs. Wade in 1970, which made it a crime at the time.

I'd just like the national media to ask him if abortion is okay for him and his family, but not for the rest of America. We're not looking at it as a big issue, we're looking at it as a situation of people not being told the truth. I think the American people have a right to know everything there is to know about someone running for President." -- Larry Flynt, in the CNN chat room Friday night.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), October 21, 2000.

Anita:

Mr Flynt has made a fortune hyping stories. He is a master. Remember, he brought down the speaker. If he has this information, my guess is that it will be released just before the election. Long enough before to allow it to sink in; but short enough to prevent spin from working. He has learned well from the Republican leadership in the area of sleeze.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), October 21, 2000.

Z:

I agree that Flynt is a master of hype, but I don't think he'll reveal ANYTHING unless he gets a signed statement from the woman. He's NOT stupid, and doesn't want to face a law suit.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), October 21, 2000.

Anita:

Flynt [not to be confused with our Flint] is an older man. After the attack he is not that well. What better end to the career than to bring down the leader of his enemies. Law suits, he has been there. Perchance, you underestimate him. Just my guess [not totally].

We will see.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), October 21, 2000.

"Mr Flynt has made a fortune hyping stories."

What part of revealing truth do you consider "hyping"?? Do you even know what that word means? It comes from "hyperbole", which is an exaggeration.

How can an abortion be exaggerated? It either happened or it didn't, and Larry Flynt has too much integrity to make up something like that. He puts up an offer, say $1 million, to anyone who has evidence that Bush was involved in an abortion. Then he decides whether it is important enough to destroy the lives of the guilty party by revealing their hypocrisy, but it is not hype or exaggeration, it is truth.

During Monicagate, Flynt had names of at least 12 other congressmen who had cheated on their wives, but he decided it wasn't necessary to destroy all of them to make his point. He chose only the loudmouth Burton because he was the one who had the nerve to call Clinton a scumbag, after he himself was guilty of worse. He never imagined anyone would find out.

I am very thankful to Larry Flynt for putting up his own money to reveal the hypocrisy of these sleazy corrupt Republicans. From now on, they're going to have to be a lot more careful about the lies they tell.

-- Get 'em Larry (you@da.man), October 22, 2000.

Get'm Larry:

The way I used hype dealt with the method of presentation not the content of the message.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), October 22, 2000.

I would bet that the details of Bush's former girlfriend's abortion is not the only piece of information Larry Flynt has that is enormously embarrassing to the Bush family. It'll be interesting to see if he releases more information in the next few days.

It's also most interesting that this procedure was performed pre-Roe v. Wade.

-- Just a feminist (democrats@whitehouse.gov), October 22, 2000.

Get 'em, Larry:

I agree with Z on the hyping. As I recall, Flynt only had to allude to information on all those Congresscritters before folks started worrying that the information would actually be published. It's kindof like that "I know what YOU did last Summer" line. There's no real evidence presented, but the guilty KNOW they're guilty and start squirming and eventually decide that they don't want to take a chance on the facts coming out.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), October 22, 2000.

I am very thankful to Larry Flynt for putting up his own money to reveal the hypocrisy of these sleazy corrupt Republicans. From now on, they're going to have to be a lot more careful about the lies they tell.

So journalism-for-pay is good journalism? How much does Flynt pay for his "news"?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), October 22, 2000.

"So journalism-for-pay is good journalism?"

Of course! Isn't ALL journalism, journalism-for-pay? Since most journalists are not paid enough to get the truth, they end up publishing rumors, heresay, and outright lies.

"How much does Flynt pay for his "news"?

Not sure, but I seem to recall a figure of $1 million to burn Dan Burton. That's okay, he's still got plenty left. Real truth is a difficult thing to find, so it is expensive. Flynt insists that the source is 100% credible and there is substantial evidence to verify that it is the real truth, BEFORE he makes his news announcements. Good for him!

-- (truth@is.expensive), October 22, 2000.

The wealthy and privileged have had access to safe abortions before Roe vs Wade and they will continue to have access to safe abortions if Roe vs Wade is overturned. This is a fact of life.

IF this story is true it will make alot of people very angry but the people who will become angry are already NOT supporting Bush. IMO the Bush supporters will overlook his involvement in an abortion and continue to support the pro-life platform of the Republican party. They know they can't stop ALL abortions so they will be satisfied to stop MOST of them.

The shame of it is that the women who truly need to make the hard decisions based on their financial situations will be the ones denied while those who don't have to make the decision based on their financial situation will still have access. Said another way - when the wealthy and privileged choose abortion it is usually for convenience.

Maybe... IF the story is true the people who didn't plan on voting will come out and cast a vote for Gore. That would be a good thing.

I say: Good job Mr. Flynt and I hope the woman in question realizes the opportunity she has to help ALL women. (I have a suspicion she didn't quite 'measure up' to the Bush's standards.)

-- Debra (Thisis@it.com), October 22, 2000.

"Truth is expensive"--

Sorry, but journalism for pay is NOT good journalism. Ask any J-school graduate.

For a million dollars, I will tell Larry Flynt whatever he wants to hear. What do you recommend?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), October 22, 2000.

Lars, did it ever occur to you that there are medical records to prove such a thing?

-- (duuuuh@not.2brite), October 22, 2000.

Debra,

I noticed you keep saying "IF" the story is true. IT IS. If it weren't, Bush would have filed a lawsuit against Flint for slander, false accusation, and defamation of character (lol, WHAT character?).

Instead, Bush attacks the media as being "liberally biased" and tries to sweep the whole thing under the rug.

Whether or not people want abortions to be banned is not the issue here. The issue is hypocrisy, and Bush leads the pack in that skill.

-- (shrub@self.righteous.hypocrite), October 22, 2000.

Shrub, Shrub, Shrub!!!!

Bush would have filed a lawsuit against Flint for slander I have pointed this out before. Flint is a long time resident of this forum. You are referring to Flynt. Now Keep it straight. 8^)

Best wishes,,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), October 22, 2000.

Z,

Shrub has a bit of a problem with people and names. He would have sued "Flint" first, then sued "Flynt", after his staff informed him he made a mistake. LOL

-- (shrub@brain.damaged), October 22, 2000.

I thought men had no say in whether a woman got an abortion or not? Make up your minds people.

-- -x- (NotSaying@like.youes), October 23, 2000.

I wonder where sorority girl (shrub and all the other little handles it has) was when women came forward and accused Clinton of aggressive sexual advances (one even used the r word). Oh that's right, the women lied; it's a right wing conspiracy!

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), October 23, 2000.

The big difference is that unlike Shrubya, Clinton knows the difference between right and wrong. When his advances were refused, he left the women alone, whereas the Shrub got them drunk and raped them. The abortions are proof of that.

-- sorority girl (maria is @ dumb. shit), October 23, 2000.

Idiot, Clinton was accused of rape. But let's believe that Larry has the feminist interests at heart here. Go Larry!

-- all the other handles (sorority@dumb.and.dumber), October 23, 2000.

Of course he was ACCUSED Maria, by idiots like you. Has anything been proven? NOT!

On the other hand, we have lots of proof that Shrub is a sexually deviant hypocrite traitor, all we have to do is dig up all the abortion records.

-- (maria@dumber.than.shit), October 23, 2000.

LOL, ACCUSED. I love it, Larry isn't accusing is he?

-- Why Does (sorority@like.it.both.ways), October 23, 2000.

For the record, Juanita Broadrick denied that she had been raped several times before the latest round of accusations. She made an inital accusation five years after the alleged incident, then denied it for fifteen years. Clinton denied the rumors, Bush has not done so.

There are no medical records in the Juanity Broadrick case. I'd be curious to see those in the Geoge Bush/Jane Doe case.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), October 23, 2000.