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A Palestinian screams as he mourns a friend who was shot in the head during Palestinian clashes with Israeli soldiers on the outskirts of Ramallah in the West Bank, October 10, 2000. Intense world efforts to halt a spasm of Israeli-Palestinian violence were followed by a rare lull in unrest in the strife-torn West Bank. (Yola Monakhov/Reuters)

-- (, October 11, 2000


-- (why.can't.we@be.friends), October 11, 2000.

Anyone watched the Israeli/Palestinian town meeting with Ted Kopel last night? It was unreal to watch. At times heartwrenching (especially when the 2 women on the panels from each side spoke), and at times a crazy circus and shouting match that would be funny if people's lives weren't being lost over this.

Religious zealotry at work. I came out feeling that there might be some hope with the children on both sides to stop this madness. If they have access to the net, they have a chance to see a balanced view of the world and conteract the brainwashing from their parents and leaders, educate themselves and throw the bums out in Israel's case, and uprise in Palestine. The mayor of Jerusalem, what an ass! I felt that if he was taken out of the picture, the talks could resume and a final agreement reached.

-- (, October 11, 2000.

Do you blame God for all killing and hatred and evil in this world?

We have the choice to follow our conscience, or to follow the wrongdoings of other people. The choice is ours. No one can make you kill and harm others. Only YOU can.

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

cin, I agree, but I don't think the poster was talking about "God", he was talking about "religion". IMHO, in this case, one has nothing to do with the other. I think many of these people who would kill or maim or however harm others lost sight of "God" a very long time ago.

-- Patricia (, October 11, 2000.

Yo Cin, read the subject line again. Nobody's blaming God.

-- (, October 11, 2000.

Actually, maybe people should blame God. After all, according to theists, God is responsible for everything that happens here on earth. If there were a god(s), and s/he/it/they created everything and are omnipotent and/or omniscient (as most religions say), then all this fighting must occur at his/her/it's/their fiat.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (, October 11, 2000.


But the loophole is "free will", which everyone has, and is entitled to excercise (with the price to be paid at an upcoming "judgment day").

Gawd, I love Jane in those jungle outfits!!!

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), October 11, 2000.

Tarzan, I would have thought that your recent experiences had changed your heart.

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

Why would you think that, Cin? The thought of a diety never even entered my mind the whole time I thought I was a goner anymore than the thought of illegal immigration did. Both are topics I have opinions on and enjoy discussing, but neither topic has much impact on my day-to-day existance.

I do have cancer, I'm just not nearly as likely to die from it. I think this is cause to celebrate and question the competitence of my primary care physician (the one who misdiagnosed me) rather than an argument for the existance of a diety.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (, October 11, 2000.


Keep your eyes to yourself, buddy, or I'll send you to the Sacred Elephant Burial Ground!

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (, October 11, 2000.

The Sacret Eliphant Burial Ground is MUDDY. KING OF SPAIN LOVES MUD!!!

-- ... (, October 11, 2000.

I saw this bumper sticker the other day and I think it says it all:

"I don't have a problem with God, it is his followers I have a problem with..."


snoozin' on the porch...

The Dog

-- The Dog (, October 11, 2000.

religion kill,s---cain slew abel!! religion try,s to control other,s--JESUS said pray for your enemy!! in other words-mind your own business-ask GOD to intervene!!

remember=but for the GRACE of GOD there go i. religion came from satan---GRACE comes thru jesus! religion say,s strive--jesus say,s lean on me!!

-- saved by grace (, October 11, 2000.

I thought it was Bill Withers who said (sang) Lean On Me.

-- Patricia (, October 11, 2000.

If I follow your logic Al D, all Christians are Satan worshipers. I doubt it.

-- (, October 11, 2000.

smarty, not all Christians are necessarily followers of Christ. Just as a tree is know for it's fruit, the Bible says that you shall know true Christians by their fruits.

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

A Christian is one who follows Christ. Since we can't read the minds of others, we have to take the believers word for it.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (, October 11, 2000.

Want peace in "that land we used to call Palestine" (old Syrian prof of mine used that phrase)? Tear down Jerusalem stone by stone and throw it in the Mediterranean. Think we'll get any takers?

-- Carlos (, October 11, 2000.


-- new creature in old suit!! (, October 11, 2000.

"No one can make you kill and harm others."

But religion does just that. It's all over the news.

-- (, October 11, 2000.

"religion made me do it"

not a great defense

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 12, 2000.

The mechanisms at work in the middle east appear to include more than just the factor of religion. Historical claims to the land. Exploitation of religion for political causes. And lets not forget the master of many, selfishness.

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall inherit the earth."

-- David (, October 12, 2000.

Subject: RELIGION... what is it good for? Absolutely NOTHIN!

Au contraire. It's good for at least one inconclusive thread a week.

-- Lars (, October 13, 2000.

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