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God's Way to Ultimate Health

By Rev. George H. Malkmus

The year was 1976. I was 42 years old and I was told I had colon cancer.

A tumor about the size of a baseball had been found underneath my left rib cage where the transverse and descending colon come together. I was devastated! I asked, "Why me Lord?" I didn't understand!

It was because of this - what appeared to be a tragic event in my life, and the research and personal experiences that followed - that I was taught GOD'S WAY TO ULTIMATE HEALTH.

Let me elaborate a little more on how it all happened. In 1976 I was the pastor of a Baptist Church, near Glens Falls, New York, a church I founded in 1970. It was a very successful ministry. Membership in this church grew from nothing to over 600 members. In addition to the church, we had a Christian School, grades K through 12, along with a Bible Institute, both of which I also founded. Five large busses brought people to the services, while my radio broadcast, America Needs Christ, was heard on many radio stations each week. Over a dozen young people from our church and school were in college preparing for full-time ministry. Trul y, this seemed to be the high point of my ministry and God was certainly blessing.

Just prior to all this, I had watched my mother die of colon cancer. Mom was a registered nurse, and she believed her doctors when they told her that chemotherapy, radiation and surgery were her only hope of surviving. Mom submitted to these treatments and died a horrible death! At the time of her death, I felt it was the treatments she received at the hands of the medical doctors that ultimately caused her death rather than the cancer itself.

What was I to do? Should I submit my body to the same medical treatments mom had? What I had seen my mother go through was so horrible! Also, as a pastor for 20 years, I had sat at the bed-side of so many people and watched the devastating effects of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery experienced by others in the treatment of their cancers, I had also conducted the funerals for many of them.

Another thing that bothered me was that in so many cases prayer didn't seem to make any difference. I had seen some of the most dedicated Christians, even after great faith, personal prayer as well as collective prayer, get sicker and sicker and often die after going the medical route. What should I do? I had a family and a church that needed me. Many people told me I should go the medical route and some were putting pressure on me to do just that.

It was during this time of uncertainty that I turned to an Evangelist friend in Texas by the name of Lestor Roloff for help. Brother Roloff was one of those "health-nuts." We often affectionately referred to him as "Carrot Juice Roloff." I was really in a dilemma as to what I should do for my cancer when I called Brother Roloff. His advice to me sounded strange. He advised me not to go the medical route of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery, as mom had gone... BUT TO SIMPLY CHANGE MY DIET TO RAW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, AND DRINK LOTS OF FRESH CARROT JUICE!

Wow! That sounded too simplistic! But it sure sounded better than the medical route which I had pretty well decided not to pursue. So, overnight I changed from a meat-centered, cooked and processed food diet with plenty of sugar desserts, to an all-raw diet with lots of carrot juice. I stayed on this total raw diet for approximately one year. I didn't eat any cooked food during that year ... just raw fruits, raw vegetables and one to two quarts a day of freshly extracted, raw carrot juice.

The results were spectacular! Almost immediately I started to get well! In less than one year, my tumor had totally disappeared. It simply got smaller and smaller until it was gone. But that was not all. In less than one year, every physical problem I had been experiencing also disappeared! Such physical problems as hemorrhoids, hypoglycemia, severe allergies and sinus problems, high blood pressure, fatigue, pimples, colds, flu ... even body odor and dandruff were gone! Totally healed!

In the years that have followed - and I am over 60 years old at this writing - I have not experienced as much as a cold, sore throat, upset stomach, been to a doctor or taken as much as an aspirin. It is so thrilling, at my age, to still be able to play football, basketball and softball with the boys, jog five miles with ease, and have more energy, endurance and stamina than I had when I was 20 years old.

With that as a little background, let me share how God used this experience in my life to create Hallelujah Acres Ministries and the writing of this book. You see, ever since that day in 1976 when I was told that I had cancer, I have been researching nutrition, healthy lifestyle and how it all relates to the Bible. Also, I have been experimenting on my own body to see how it reacted to various foods. Along with all this, I have also been watching and listening to the testimonies of thousands of others who have made similar dietary changes.

My conclusion after all these years of research and experience is that WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE SICK!!! Disease and sickness are self-inflicted! Almost every physical problem, other than accidents, is caused by improper diet and lifestyle! All we have to do to be well is eat and live according to the way God intended! In the almost 20 years since I recovered from colon cancer, one of the most basic and important things I have learned is that there is a vast difference between God's ways and man's ways! I have found that while most good Christians want to go God's way, and have tried to protect themselves from the sins of the world, they have accepted the world's teachings in almost every area of life concerning how to care for our physical bodies, which are the temple of God. A tragic example of this is when you look at the two ways to approach cancer, one of the most devastating and horrible diseases in history. My mother went the world's way (the orthodox medical route) in an attempt to rid herself of her cancer. She accepted the drugs, radiation and surgery of her doctors, and as far as I am concerned, these treatments were what caused her death! I rejected the world's way and went God's way. I turned to the Bible, adopted God's original diet as found in Genesis 1:29 and every physical problem simply went away, including my cancer.

And my experience was not unique! My wife Rhonda came to a Health Seminar I was conducting in 1991. (We were married April 11, 1992.) She was wearing a size 20 dress at that time and was almost crippled with arthritis. Within approximately one year after changing her diet and lifestyle, she had lost over 80 pounds, reduced her dress size to a 10, and her arthritis was totally gone. Even a degenerated spine, the result of a bout with spinal meningitis at age 7, had healed. Yes, X-rays revealed her spine was totally healed, degeneration gone in less than two years after changing her diet and lifestyle.

Another example is a dear friend of mine who was a diabetic when I first met him in 1989. At that time he was trying to control his blood sugar with pills prescribed by his doctor. I encouraged him to change his diet in 1989, which he did not do. Two years later the doctor told him that the pills were not adequate any more and that he must be admitted to a hospital to adjust and stabilize his blood sugar and start him on two daily shots of injection insulin. Again I told him he needed to change his diet. And again he paid no heed.

After another two years had elapsed, the doctor told him that he needed to put him into the hospital and cut off his foot, which is not an uncommon occurrence for those who go the orthodox medical route in the treatment of diabetes. Only this time he said "no" to his doctor. Instead he came to one of our seminars and immediately adopted God's Natural Diet. In less than two weeks he was off insulin and his blood sugar was in normal range. That was over two years ago. Today, he is still off all medication and still has both his feet!

We have received thousands of testimonies as dramatic as these, and some even more so, from people who have switched from the world's way of eating and treating physical problems to God's way. As you continue to read through this book you will read many of their testimonies.

What we need here in America and around the world is a HEALTH REVOLUTION! We must turn away from the world's way of dealing with physical and emotional problems and turn to God's way! The world's way is bankrupting us, costing Americans over a trillion ($l,000,000,000,000.00) dollars a year while the physical and emotional condition of our population -Christian and non- Christian alike - continues to decline.

In order to make intelligent changes, we must realize there are alternatives to the world's approach to health and how to deal with physical problems. We must understand both ways ... and why one works and why the other does not. Sadly, very few people, including most pastors, preachers and evangelists, have been aware of God's way, when it comes to the physical body. Thus we have been programmed only in the world's way, even from the pulpits in our churches.

Because of this programming, most people, when they first hear of God's ways, think them strange and "far out". So in order to help understand the differences, let's look at a few physical problems being faced by many people today and compare the two ways of dealing with these problems.

Take cardiovascular problems, which result in heart attacks and strokes. Heart disease is the number one killer (50% of all deaths) in America today. Every 34 seconds, someone in America dies from physical problems associated with this disease. The cost to those who go the medical route for the treatment of heart disease is over $110 billion per year.

The first approach usually taken by medical doctors in an effort to control this problem is to prescribe drugs. It is not uncommon for a person with high blood pressure to be given as many as three or four drugs. One of these drugs will chemically force the blood vessels to dilate (get bigger), thus lowering blood pressure. But this drug causes the heart to speed up. In an effort to control the speeding up of the heart caused by the first drug, the doctor usually prescribes a second drug to slow it down. Each of these drugs is capable of causing the body to retain fluid. Thus the doctor often prescribes a third drug, a diuretic, which is designed to chemically force the body to release the extra fluid being retained in an effort to try and keep all these drugs (poisons) from doing more harm.

Almost all of these drugs can cause impotence in males. The diuretics can cause dizziness, headaches and even depression ... while at the same time raising cholesterol levels! Then there are the "beta blockers" that can cause not only depression, but insomnia, as well as liver and kidney damage. The world's approach of using drugs just causes more and more problems within the body while never dealing with the cause. To top it all off, there is the devastating financial costs of going this medical route. In an effort to reduce cholesterol, doctors prescribe over two billion dollars ($2,000,000,000.00) worth of drugs a year, and frankly, they don't do the job. Yet the side effects from these drugs can cause liver damage, headaches, diarrhea or constipation and are now being linked to depression, violence and even suicide.

Angioplasties (balloon therapy) is another way the world tries to deal with clogged arteries. The average cost of this procedure is $ 15,000, not counting the drugs and follow-up. And yet a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1992 showed that half of the angioplasties in the United States were probably unnecessary. Studies also show that for those who underwent this procedure, 57 percent have their arteries clog back up.

Then there is by-pass surgery. The average cost of this operation is $45,000. It is a very dangerous operation, that finds most patients back on the operating table within three to five years (because their arteries have clogged back up again), if they are not dead. About 5 percent of by-pass surgery patients die on the operating table.

One of the latest of the new technologies for cleaning out the arteries is called atherectomy. This procedure is something like a Roto-Rooter, They take a tiny, high-speed rotating knife, insert it in the arteries and ream out the cholesterol. This also is a very risky surgery.

Now compare all the above efforts by medical doctors (the world's way) of treating cardiovascular problems with God's way. Here at Hallelujah Acres, we have testimony after testimony from people who had experienced high blood pressure, high cholesterol and clogged arteries who were able to totally reverse these problems, usually in a very short time, by something as simple as changing their diet and lifestyle. How can this be?

Well, it all goes back to our failure to eat and live the way God intended. The world's diet is full of fat, salt and other contaminates that clog up our arteries and produce all sorts of physical problems. Yet, in most instances, all people have to do to correct a physical problem is change their diet and lifestyle! When they do this, the body will usually cleanse the arteries by itself and the problem will usually simply disappear in a very short time. And furthermore, studies show that if a person stops consuming animal products, they will reduce their chances of ever having a heart attack or stroke by over 96 percent!

What is the cost of going God's way? Probably a reduced grocery bill and a long healthy life. While the cost of going the world's way can be continued physical problems and thousands and thousands of dollars in medical bills for treatments that never get to the root cause - namely diet and lifestyle. I have found that the world's way (accepted medical procedures) for dealing with physical problems is almost always wrong! Take diabetes as another example. Compare the world's way of treating adult-onset diabetes with God's way in the case of the friend we just read about. Going the doctor/drug route, my friend had continued to deteriorate for years as his doctor increased his insulin while using antibiotics and other drugs to treat infections in his feet, which the doctor told him were being caused by his diabetes.

By the time the doctor told him that he needed to amputate his foot, my friend had already spent over $40,000 treating his diabetes! But he refused to let the doctor cut off his foot. He simply changed his diet and lifestyle, and in less than two weeks he was off insulin and his blood sugar level was in normal range.

As I write this, it has now been two years since my friend changed his diet and lifestyle from the world's way to God's way. He has taken zero drugs during these two years and he still has both feet. He also had heart problems which have totally disappeared.

Take arthritis as another example. The medical profession still says that the cause of arthritis is not known. The only thing they tell their patients is that they can expect it to get worse and worse and that there is no way to reverse it. They also treat arthritis with drugs and surgery while the patient's physical condition usually continues to decline. Cortisone and similar drugs are often administered to try and help relieve the pain, but it doesn't last long and when the pain returns, it is usually worse than ever. The side-effects from these drugs can include high blood pressure, diabetes, cataracts, bone loss (osteoporosis), ulcers and more.

Now compare the orthodox medical approach to the testimony of my wife Rhonda with her arthritis and what happened when she changed from the world's way to God's way. She was crippled up with arthritis for over 10 years, unable to walk a block without extreme pain. She took pain pills by the handfuls. Within one year after changing her diet, she went from not being able to walk a block without severe pain and exhaustion to speed-walking four miles in less than an hour! Her arthritis was totally gone and she has not had a pain pill since. Not even an aspirin. What did she do to bring about this total elimination of arthritis from her body? She simply changed from the world's diet and lifestyle to God's diet and lifestyle, and all her physical problems simply and quite quickly disappeared.

Compare my mom's experience with mine in the treatment of cancer. Mom went the world's way and accepted the doctors' chemotherapy, radiation and surgery ... treatments that I felt ultimately caused her death. I refused the world's treatments, adopted God's diet as He gave it in Genesis 1:29, and my cancer simply disappeared. I have been totally free of all physical problems since 1976.

On God's Ultimate Diet, almost every physical problem usually disappears in a comparatively short period of time! Weight normalizes. Emotional problems disappear. Life takes on a whole new glow and becomes exciting. Until someone personally experiences it, they cannot fully comprehend the total scope of the benefits of living and eating God's way. It improves the physical, as well as the emotional and psychological well-being of a person. People become happier, depressions go away, problems don't seem so monumental. Our whole outlook on life improves. Even the spiritual part of us becomes more attuned.

Most doctors mean well, but all of their training is in the world's way. In fact, the average doctor knows practically nothing about nutrition because the typical doctor has received less than three hours of nutritional training in his or her entire preparation to become a doctor. And the nutritional training they do receive is the world's way, not God's way, so what they have learned about diet is not able to help our bodies to strengthen their immune system and heal disease by creating healthy new living cells.

Sadly, most doctors are just as sick as their patients! If doctors cannot keep their own bodies well and functioning properly, how in the world can they help anyone else? However, we are thrilled to find that more and more doctors are starting to question their indoctrination in medical school as they see the devastating consequences of their drugging, burning and cutting patient after patient. Many are allowing their eyes to be opened and are moving in God's direction. Pray for them. The peer pressure and controls on them by their union, the American Medical Association, is very powerful. In many states, a doctor can lose his license if he recommends or treats his patients' physical problems with anything other than drugs, radiation and surgery.

The key to preventing heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, arthritis and a host of other physical problems is in our own hands. We can literally control whether we are going to be sick or not and how long we are going to live by simply choosing how we live our lives ... the world's way or God's way! God's way leads to a long, happy, pain-free, sickness-free life! While the world's way usually leads to a short, unhappy, sickness-filled life with lots of pain and suffering, to say nothing of the financial costs. This book sets before you two very different paths, one a broad road (the world's way) that leads to destruction and the other a narrow road (God's way) that leads to life! I trust that you will very carefully consider both roads as you continue to read through this book and that you will choose "GOD'S WAY TO ULTIMATE HEALTH!"

-- Believer, it worked for me! (, October 10, 2000


Get thee behind me flim-flammer!

This post was lifted intact from one of the many sites for George H. Malkmus, mongerer of books, vegetarian diets and health insurance.

Nothing against vegetarians (Cin?) but to use Tarzan's recent cancer scare as an opportunity to sell books etc maketh me unto puke.

"Hallelujah Diet"

-- Lars (, October 11, 2000.

Lars, who cares if Malkmus sells books, if the cancer cure works for every one who follows his advice, it will work for Tarzan. Believer said it worked for him, so why call him a flim flam man? He's just trying to help Tarzan, while nobody else gave him any subsantial advice. Malkmus hasthe only cancer cure that works. If I had cancer, I would certainly follow his advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- snuggy (, October 11, 2000.

Hey, snuggy . . . today's extra credit questions:

1. What did P.T. Barnum say was "born every minute."

2. Complete this famous quote: "A _______ and his money are soon parted."

-- E.H. Porter (Just, October 11, 2000.

Malkmus does not only sell books. He has many web sites that sell books, vegetarian products and life insurance. Do a search for Malkmus on any good search engine. If his procedures worked consistently, he would have a Nobel prize by now.

I have tried plenty of alternative health techniques. In my experience, they have all been useless. Worse than useless because they do a number on you---if it doesn't work, then it's your own fault because you didn't believe hard enough. In fact, some of the alternative-health folks claim you become sick because you had a bad attitude to start with. Have you ever read Louise Hay?

I would never deny that good mental and physical life styles promote good health. People who smoke are just asking for it. Ditto many other behaviors. But to claim that a diet will "cure" cancer is pathetic.

Steve McQueen is laughing at you.

-- Lars (, October 11, 2000.

Aside from the author and the books etc., this is a healthy way to eat and live. It certainly couldn't hurt. And I would go as far as saying that it's definitely worth a try.

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.


Not being a smartass here. I am genuinely interested. I think I have seen you say that you are a vegetarian. To your knowledge, has vegetarianism significantly improved your health. I am aware of the research that shows that colon cancer is less likely among fish eaters and vegetarians that meat eaters. I am not aware of any peer-reviewed research that has demonstrated that vegetarianism will cure cancer once it is already there.

Correct me if I'm wrong. You have often referred to being somewhat overweight. Is this true? I would think that total vegetarians would tend to be underweight.

Did you contribute to the chili thread? I'm sure there are wonderful vegetarian chilis. I didn't contribute because I don't cook.

-- Lars (, October 11, 2000.

Well, eating only raw fruits and veggies cuts out going to restaurants. I don't think I could do that.

-- Maria (, October 11, 2000.

If you have colon cancer, get it resected by an oncologic surgeon. If it is early stage, more times than not you will be cured. If it is metastatic (whether known or not), you will not be cured in the long run.

But get the real treatment first, if you want to take herbs, etc. that's fine, just do it AFTER you've received real therapy so the disease doesn't have time to spread.


-- Someone (, October 11, 2000.

Ironically enough, I've been a vegetarian for years and still got sick. Maybe I should start eating meat again.

I don't believe in any god of any sort. That being said, if there is a god(s) and s/he/it/they is an omnipotent and omniscient being, I would have a hard time believing that s/he/it/they wouldn't put the keys to such a revolutionary, life-lengthening diet in one of the sacred texts attributed to him/her/it/them. (whew)

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (, October 11, 2000.

Maria: I'm WITH ya dear...

No restaurants? What would WE do? tee hee.

I do eat healthy while dining out though. I try to steer clear of Mc anything, and IF I MUST do the Mc thing, its McSalad for moi.

But now, um, auntie anne's pretzels? Well that IS different. :-)

I knew someone who tried to be a veggie tarian once, till we caught her eating a pork-chop on the porch.... Um, TRUE story.

-- consumer (, October 11, 2000.

Well, it worked for Dr. Lorraine Day too. She was a day away from death (she had breast cancer), the doctors told her she was going to die. There is hope! BTW, Dr. Day is the one who refused to operate on orthopedic patients at San Francisco General Hospital when the aids epidemic was flourishing. She demanded to wear a space suit when operating on patients. She was the first doctor to state that AIDS can be transferred in blood-to-blood or mucous contact. I believe they fired her because she wouldn't go along with the program. It wasn't too long after that incident that scientist found that AIDS was indeed transferred via blood and mucous.

-- Mrs. Cleaver (Mrs. Cleaver@LITBBBB.vcom), October 11, 2000.

Vegetarians and God-fearing people die too--sooner or later--this includes the rich and poor alike.

-- some sooner some later (, October 11, 2000.

Sooner, isn't that the truth. They live and die in fear. Having lived a most boring culinary life, sprouts shooting up from their mouths while they decompose in their graves...

-- (live@nd.die.well), October 11, 2000.

Oh yes Lars, I am grotesquely obese. Maybe it's all that cheese. hmmm

So I guess you missed my chili recipe, huh?

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

p.s. ANY food will make you fat if you eat enough of it

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

It is perfectly appropriate to inquire as to the potential vested interests of those advocating off-beat cures. However, seldom is this concern raised toward conventional medicine, even though there are ample grounds for it, as scrupulously documented in the book "The Cancer Industry" by Ralph Moss.

-- David L (, October 11, 2000.


Actually, there is an exception: radishes; it actually takes more calories to digest them, so the total caloric intake is negative.

And I know that you are kidding about your weight -- I have NEVER met a fat vegetarian. On the contrary, they always look like they could use a "good" meal.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), October 11, 2000.

KOS: Most Seventh-day Adventist are vegetarians. Go sit out in front of their church some Saturday and watch all the fat people walking in or out. They eat those Vegelinks and glutenburger like there was no tomorrow. Pay them a visit on a Saturday when they have potlucks (vegetarian of course). Most of their dishes are loaded with that crap, heavy into cheese, and fried foods. The desert table is usually bigger than the main course one. They don't know the first thing about healthful living.

-- Mrs. Cleaver (Mrs. Cleaver@LITBBBB.vcom), October 11, 2000.

mrs cleaver, I'll compare arteries with you anyday. =)

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

OK, now I'm confused (as usual).

I thought vegetarians didn't eat any dairy (comes from animals; hence, "vegetarian"). Or am I missing something (again)?

-- Patricia (, October 11, 2000.

Patricia, there are some vegs who consume eggs and dairy; they are called lacto-ovo vegetarians.

Vegans consume no animal products, nor use any product that comes from an animal. (I thought it rather extreme that most true vegans don't consume honey, because it comes from bees.)

Myself, I do some dairy and eggs, but prefer to get it from organic and cruelty free sources, which are readily available here in southern california.

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

Check out Dr. Day's site, I've heard her speak on some radio talk shows. She was chief of orthopedic surgery at San Francisco general Hospital.

She had a grapefruit-sized lump in her breast and was given 6 months to live. She checked out about 40 natural treatments and found what worked for her. She says that all our bodies work the same and what works for one will work for all. She pushes no expensive treatments, just natural foods to rebuild the immune system and a spiritual lifestyle to get rid of negative emotions.

-- John Littmann (, October 12, 2000.

Vegans consume no animal products, nor use any product that comes from an animal.

Poor Vegans. To be true to their faith, they better not eat vegetables that are fertilized with animal manure. But it's not "natural" to eat vegetables that are fertilized chemically. I guess that puts them in a pickle.

-- Lars (, October 12, 2000.

Myself, I do some dairy and eggs, but prefer to get it from organic and cruelty free sources, which are readily available here in southern california.

Those cows have to give birth to calves in order to give you milk, Cin. What do the farmers do with all those calves - put them up at a country club for the rest of their lives? That would seriously cut into their bottom line.

Don't think for one minute that your hands are blood-free. By buying milk you are contributing to the suffering and death of innocent calves.

I hope you re-think your position, Cin.

-- Vegan (, October 12, 2000.

I'm with Tarzan and most of you on this one.

It doesn't matter the subject, y2k, cancer, crime, you name it, there's someone out there somewhere who will exploit anything...for a dollar. And they will use any vehicle, religion, fear, you name it, for their purpose. Money. Their real god.

-- FactFinder (, October 12, 2000.

I once worked alongside a Hindu fellow. Of course he was vegetarian, but I wondered how he kept his weight and where he received sufficient protein. He eats good whenever his mom visits, but she spends 10 months out of 12 in India, and he lived in Indiana, U.S.A.

The key to keeping his weight seemed to be junk food. He was ALWAYS munching on chips or something. I never really DID learn how he received sufficient protein. He didn't eat soy products, tofu, and the like. He just ate veggies and junk food.

I have two female friends who are vegetarians. One consumes a LOT of pasta dishes. The other DOES eat fish. They're both slim.

Regarding the cancer cure, I had a neighbor who had bone cancer and she took up the macrobiotic diet that was purported to help. It didn't help.

-- Anita (, October 12, 2000.

mrs cleaver, I'll compare arteries with you anyday. =)

-- cin (cin@=0.)), October 11, 2000.

I doubt you could compete with me.

-- Mrs. Cleaver (Mrs. Cleaver@LITBBB.vcom), October 12, 2000.

BTW, the French consume a high fat diet, but the key is they drink wine with their meals. They have a very low incidence of heart disease. Doesn't matter what you eat or drink, you will not live forever! Joggers who are in in fantastic shape get ran over by a car, drop dead of a heart attack, or suffer physical injury. Bikers are prone to testicular cancer. People who never smoked a cigarette in their life come down with lung cancer. Blah, blah, blah. blah. And then there are those who drink, smoke, and keep odd hours and they live to be 100. When asked what contributes to their longevity, they usually answer: smoke cigarettes, drink wine, don't worry, be happy.

-- don'tworrybehappy (don'tworrybehappy@don'tworryhappyyyyyy!, October 12, 2000.

There is no one diet that is good for all people. We are all individuals.

( All together now, lemme hear it, "WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!!" ) --Monty Python

A substantial body of research going back 70 years demonstrates metabolic individuality. (Roger Williams, Weston Price, Wm. Donald Kelley, Rudolf Wiley, and currently Bill Wolcott). It isn't much 'in vogue' these days. But it makes so much sense to me intuitively: why do we keep trying to make one set of rules about diet that applies equally to everyone under all circumstances? Clearly, this does not work! And we probably all have experienced that a positive mindset can do a lot to heal your body and a negative mindset can make you sick...

More on a (to me) fascinating topic... "Diet Controversies" (Udo Erasmus)

-- Debbie (, October 13, 2000.

I eat moon pies. I have a big butt. I give good moon.

-- (, October 16, 2000.

This seems to have morphed into a discussion of vegetarianism. I may as well toss in my two bits.

When I was in my early twenties I spent about two years as a vegetarian. The motivation was not religious. I don't believe it is some sort of sin to eat meat. Meat does not disgust me or force me into moral qualms. I decided to become vegetarian because I knew damn well that it was a cheap way to eat and I was church mouse poor.

Being a reader, I knew that Thoreau was a vegetarian, and that a wide variety of health claims were made for the diet, both pro and con. I was curious to see what Thoreau had seen in it.

Also, someone had given me a copy of Diet for a Small Planet. I decided that growing corn, feeding it to a hog, and then eating the hog was a rather circuitous method of getting food. I thought I would try eliminating the middleman, so to speak.

The experience left me with a bunch of good data to work with. It forced me to learn more about cooking in general and more about cooking vegetables in particular. It left me with the conviction that, while total abstinence from meat is not essential, a Chinese-style of diet - one that is long on vegetables and grains and short on meat - is not only a delicious way to eat, but a sensible one from just about every point of view:

From a purely sensual perspective, it tastes good. From an aesthetic perspective, it looks good. From a health perspective, it feels good. From an economic perspective, it is inexpensive. But what I do isn't really vegetarian - just kinda close.

Spending two years nearer to the extreme end of the spectrum gave me a chance to break away completely from the steaks-and-burgers habit. My wife and I eat about 6 to 8 steak or burger meals a year. We eat no meat at all about 4 days a week, depending.

There is no need to succumb to food fadism or to adopt a religious or fanatical view of food in order to appreciate the general gist of vegetarianism. I would hesitate to claim it is necessary for longevity or for good health or that it can cure any disease whatsoever. It is just a sensible alternative that deserves serious consideration.

-- Brian McLaughlin (, October 16, 2000.

I agree with you Brian. Such a sensible diet is what the medical field has been promoting for years.

The article above is pure "unsubstanciated horseshit", to steal that expression again from I forgot who coined it.

For example:

"The first approach usually taken by medical doctors in an effort to control this problem [cardiovascular/diabetes/etc] is to prescribe drugs." Completely false. If a doctor did not order a complete dietary consult on such patients first, he would be found negligent and could be sued for malpractice. The doctor orders medications to stabalize the patient (who was non-compliant with a sensible diet to begin with) in conjunction with thorough dietary education from a dietician. The diet served the person while in hospital is strictly according to this. The person must now take responsability for his/her health and follow the doctor's recommendations and eat accordingly. Many people will go right back to bad habits. Perhaps these people would respond better to spooky fantasy stories such as "God's Diet". In that case, hey, whatever works for them. A vegetarian diet is better than a junk food or glutton one. Such people would also benefit from blocking all tv channels except for the religious ones (with no junk food ads on them.)

-- (, October 16, 2000.

True, doctors generally advise their cardiac/diabetic patients regarding diet. The only problem is that their advice typically fixates on cholesterol avoidance and ignores the effects of refined foods and sugar. But then again, the US PHS tells us that sugar causes no harmful effects except for tooth decay and obesity.

-- David L (, October 17, 2000.

smarty, it was Unk who coined it and the phrase is "unmitigated horseshit".

I think it's quite a versatile phrase; I try to use it every chance I get ;-) (Should we put the little TM after it?)

-- Patricia (, October 17, 2000.

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