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I saw this in a Rod & Gun Club newsletter and thought it was worth passing along. After checking out the website, I think this might be a little exaggerated, but after all, we're dealing with the Feds, and I'm sure they won't stop with handguns.

Here's it is as it appeared in the newsletter:

< This bill was introduced on Feb. 24. This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all.

The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: www.senate.gov. You can find the bill by doing a search on the bill number. (SB-2009)>>

I've also heard that in California the police are confiscating (registered) guns from law abiding citizens--coming right to their homes and taking them! I couldn't find any info when I tried to corraborate this story. Has anyone else heard this?

Also, I've had an unusual amount of trouble trying to post this. Hmm........

-- Laurie in WI (CountryGirl518@Moose-mail.com), September 27, 2000

Answers

I just listened to Montel, who I watch every now and then :

He said, emphaticually (?) ...and there IS going to be a revolution in this country because of too many people having guns..." We are slowly being brainwashed and now if these laws are illegally passed, it may happen sooner than Montel thinks.

-- Aagje Franken (Backyard@AOL.com), September 27, 2000.


Laurie, This was posted here about a month ago. At that time , I contacted the offices of my senators and representatives to find out more information on this and their positions on it. All of the offices contacted replied that they were not aware of any such bill and both of our senators offices explained to me that this would be a property tax item not an income tax item. If you have the site address where this bill can be found, please post it. Also, this is something to contact your congressmen about, if it is actually up for vote, they need to know how their constituents feel on the matter.

-- Jay Blair (jayblair678@yahoo.com), September 27, 2000.

Laurie: Last month when there was a post on here about this, I showed it to my husband, and he checked with the NRA. Their response was that they were aware of it, however felt it didn't have even a slight chance of passing, and were recommending people focus their efforts on some others that they were more concerned about. They have people who keep a pretty close watch on these things, and hopefully know what they are talking about. Still a good idea to write your local representatives and congressmen with your viewpoints, though, just in case. Jan

-- Jan in Colorado (Janice12@aol.com), September 27, 2000.

Jay, your reps lied to you. There is such a bill and #. It says it's for Rural Education, and it's now in committee. I read the text and didn't see mention of hand guns, but they are always adding stuff to these bills, so I wouldn't doubt it. Write your reps if you can just tell them that if they don't read a full bill they are perjuring themselves by voting on it. How can they vote when they don't know what they are voting for?

To find legislation go to www.senate.gov and scroll down to the lower left side and enter the bill number. You can also go to thomas.gov and search out the entire government.

-- Doreen (animalwaitress@yahoo.com), September 28, 2000.


September 27, 2000

Dear friend of liberty,

Your efforts are making a difference.

After hearing from liberty activists in his home state of Minnesota, Senator Rod Grams issued a public statement opposing S. 2099 and committing himself to blocking passage of the bill. Thank you Senator Grams! His office faxed a press release to The Liberty Committee office to let us know our activists were being heard.

Thank you liberty activists in Minnesota and everywhere else - because of your efforts, nationwide, every senator's office is alert to the dangers of S. 2099 and every senator knows we are watching and won't be caught off guard.

Senator Grams' press release is below.

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NEWS FROM ROD GRAMS-UNITED STATES SENATOR-MINNESOTA

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GRAMS TO BLOCK SENATE PASSAGE OF GUN TAX BILL

"I believe that most Americans should be free to own a firearm without having to overcome unconstitutional burdens," says Minnesota Senator.

Washington. D.C. - U.S. Senator Rod Grams (R-MN) today announced he would block passage of legislation to tax gun ownership and require registration of handguns. The bill, S. 2099, was introduced by Senator Jack Reed (D-RI).

Concerned Minnesotans have contacted Grams to express their opposition to the legislation and urged Grams to prevent its passage in Congress. Among the provisions in the legislation, a tax would be levied on all handgun transfers at $5 per transfer and impose a $50 tax on the manufacture of a handgun. It would also place more control of private information in the hands of government bureaucrats by requiring that firearms owners register their handguns.

As a staunch defender of the Second Amendment, Grams reaffirmed his opposition to the bill and emphasized his commitment to its defeat. "I strongly oppose this legislation because it would require the registration of handguns and impose a tax on the transfer and manufacture of handguns. I believe that most Americans should be free to own a firearm without having to overcome unconstitutional burdens," said Grams.

Grams went on to explain that, "The best way to reduce crime and gun violence is not through a universal firearms licensing scheme and 'gun taxes,' but through prosecution of those who use guns in the commission of a crime." He also discredited information on the Internet suggesting that the legislation would soon be passed by Congress and enacted into law.

"It is highly unlikely this legislation will be considered before Congress adjourns," said Grams. "But if it is, I will continue my steadfast support for the individual right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by the Constitution and work to block its passage in Congress."

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*********************************************************** September 27, 2000 Dear friend of liberty, Your efforts are making a difference. After hearing from liberty activists in his home state of Minnesota, Senator Rod Grams issued a public statement opposing S. 2099 and committing himself to blocking passage of the bill. Thank you Senator Grams! His office faxed a press release to The Liberty Committee office to let us know our activists were being heard. Thank you liberty activists in Minnesota and everywhere else - because of your efforts, nationwide, every senator's office is alert to the dangers of S. 2099 and every senator knows we are watching and won't be caught off guard. Senator Grams' press release is below. Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org To SUBSCRIBE, please go to http://www.thelibertycommittee.org and click Join. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please Mailto:majordomo-libertystudycommittee@mjx.libertystudy.org with the words unsubscribe LibertyStudyCommittee on the first line of the body of the message. Please leave the rest of the message blank. ************************************************************* NEWS FROM ROD GRAMS-UNITED STATES SENATOR-MINNESOTA For Immediate Release/September 21, 2000 GRAMS TO BLOCK SENATE PASSAGE OF GUN TAX BILL "I believe that most Americans should be free to own a firearm without having to overcome unconstitutional burdens," says Minnesota Senator. Washington. D.C. - U.S. Senator Rod Grams (R-MN) today announced he would block passage of legislation to tax gun ownership and require registration of handguns. The bill, S. 2099, was introduced by Senator Jack Reed (D-RI). Concerned Minnesotans have contacted Grams to express their opposition to the legislation and urged Grams to prevent its passage in Congress. Among the provisions in the legislation, a tax would be levied on all handgun transfers at $5 per transfer and impose a $50 tax on the manufacture of a handgun. It would also place more control of private information in the hands of government bureaucrats by requiring that firearms owners register their handguns. As a staunch defender of the Second Amendment, Grams reaffirmed his opposition to the bill and emphasized his commitment to its defeat. "I strongly oppose this legislation because it would require the registration of handguns and impose a tax on the transfer and manufacture of handguns. I believe that most Americans should be free to own a firearm without having to overcome unconstitutional burdens," said Grams. Grams went on to explain that, "The best way to reduce crime and gun violence is not through a universal firearms licensing scheme and 'gun taxes,' but through prosecution of those who use guns in the commission of a crime." He also discredited information on the Internet suggesting that the legislation would soon be passed by Congress and enacted into law. "It is highly unlikely this legislation will be considered before Congress adjourns," said Grams. "But if it is, I will continue my steadfast support for the individual right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by the Constitution and work to block its passage in Congress." -- 30 -- ***********************************************************

-- William in WI (thetoebes@webtv.net), September 28, 2000.



September 16, 2000

Dear friend of liberty,

Senator Jack Reed (RI) introduced S. 2099 in the U.S. Senate on February 24, 2000. Senators Charles Schumer (NY) and Frank Lautenberg (NJ) are cosponsors of the bill.

S. 2099 would amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of all handguns, both newly-purchased and currently-owned handguns, with the federal government. Current owners would be required to register their handguns by submitting an application with a photograph and fingerprints and pay a tax within one year after the enactment of S. 2099. The information submitted by owners of handguns would be kept in a central-government database known as the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record maintained by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Any law-abiding citizen who owns a handgun and does not want to be tracked by this government database had better carefully read the "Transfer Rule" section of this bill, which states he or she "shall register such handgun"..."upon the transfer of such handgun before such 1 year anniversary date." In other words, you will be required to register handguns you no longer own.

Gotcha!

Gun makers would be assessed a $50.00 tax per gun manufactured. This on the manufacturer, as do all such taxes on the production of goods, will be passed on to the consumer as an increase in the purchase price.

S. 2099 is currently in the U.S. Senate Committee on Finance. We need to make sure that S. 2099 doesn't make it out of committee.

Even though S. 2099 has only two cosponsors, it is, nonetheless, a pending bill. As I wrote in my last update, anything is possible during the last weeks of a congressional session. Therefore, we need to tell our U.S. senators we are aware of S. 2099 and that we strongly oppose it.

Go to http://www.thelibertycommittee.org and click on S. 2099 in the Self Defense section, then click on Take Action Here! to express your opinion about S. 2099 to your two U.S. senators.

Kent Snyder
The Liberty Committee
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-- William in WI (thetoebes@webtv.net), September 28, 2000.


For those of you who may be wondering who these Liberty people are and how they would know the facts:

Rep. Ron Paul
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Rep. Rick A. Hill
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Rep. John Hostettler
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Rep. Walter B. Jones, Jr.
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Rep. Jack Kingston
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Rep. Jack Metcalf
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Rep. Richard W. Pombo
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Rep. Mark Sanford, Jr.
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Rep. Bob Schaffer
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Rep. John Shadegg
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-- William in WI (thetoebes@webtv.net), September 28, 2000.


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S. 2099 "The Handgun Safety And Registration Act Of 2000" Is No Hoax

Source: Toogood Reports
Published: September 27, 2000 Author: Lisa S. Dean

While the Internet makes it possible for millions of people to find very useful information and share it with one another via email, it also makes it possible for people to present false information and hoaxes as the "real thing" as well.

Many of these hoaxes come in the form of action alerts, urging people to call their members of Congress because some bill that would destroy our liberty is about to be voted on. A perfect example is the email that continues to be spread alleging that bill number 602P is being sponsored by Rep. Tony Schnell that would require a per-minute access charge on Internet service providers, a fee that would ultimately to be passed on to consumers.

This concept frightened the public and the result was that thousands of people were calling their members urging them to vote against this horrible bill. As it turned out, anyone with a reasonable knowledge of Capitol Hill knows that bill numbers generally don4t end in a letter so there was no bill number 602P. Moreover, there is no member of Congress named Tony Schnell. It was a hoax but thousands of people believed it was true.

A similar hoax is being spread now. This time it4s about guns. Again, thousands of people are receiving emails that make the claim that Congress is considering making it a requirement that gun-owning citizens list every gun that they own on their tax forms next year. This is a hoax but what makes it so believable to so many people is that fact that there is a growing anti-gun bias in this country and it would not be beyond the realm of possibility that Congress would do something that outrageous. But Congress hasn4t.

Does that mean that we can breathe a sigh of relief because our Second Amendment rights are safe and secure? Not at all. There is a REAL bill circulating in Congress with a REAL bill number attached and is being offered by a REAL Congressman, although in this case, a senator. Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island has introduced S. 2099 "The Handgun Safety and Registration Act of 2000" which, while it does not require Americans to list their guns on their tax forms, the bill does, among other things, according to the bill4s proponents:

Adds handguns to the list of weapons registered by the Secretary of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), under the National Firearms Act (NFA), which currently covers machine guns, short-barrel shotguns, short-barrel rifles, silencers, bombs, grenades, and other specialized weapons.

Requires all handguns, including those currently in private possession, to be registered with ATF within one year of enactment. If a handgun is transferred to another individual during the one-year transition period, the bill requires the handgun to be registered prior to the transfer.

Imposes federal law enforcement background checks on all handgun transfers, including both primary and secondary transfers. For all NFA weapons, ATF conducts background checks through the National Crime Information Center (NCIC), the Treasury Enforcement Communications System (TECS), and the National Law Enforcement Tracking System (NLETS). To ensure compliance, the bill also requires the Secretary to take measures to inform the public of the requirements of the Act, such as public service announcements.

Requires ATF to share handgun registration data with local, state, and federal law enforcement officials to enhance tracing capabilities.

Imposes a $5.00 tax on handgun registration and a $50.00 tax on the making of a handgun.

If passed into law, this system would require that "the handgun owner (the registrant) obtain an ATF registration form and FBI fingerprint form FD-258, either from his local Chief Law Enforcement Officer, by mail from ATF, at a U.S. Post Office, or from a regional ATF/Treasury Department facility." Complete the form, enclose a recently taken photograph of himself, has his fingerprint taken by law enforcement authorities, pays his $5.00 tax and mails it to the ATF.

It4s so simple that it almost sounds like a pleasurable experience. But we know that the long-term consequence of such a Big Brotherish scheme will be anything but that and that, my friends, is no hoax.

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-- William in WI (thetoebes@webtv.net), September 28, 2000.


The following is an email I received from the GOA (Gun Owners of America)

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We are aware of S. 2099, "The Handgun Safety and Registration Act" introduced by Senator Jack Reed (D-RI). The problem is that there are so many horrible anti-gun bills out there that we could be issuing alerts almost everyday.

However, S. 2099 should still be watched and monitored closely for it is one of the most vicious gun control measures yet to surface.

The real threat of the bill is not that it will likely make it out of the Finance Committee, but that it or some of its provisions could become attached or amended to an appropriations bill or the horrible crime bill (S. 254) that is still pending. It is absolutely false that the Finance Committee can enact this or any part of this measure without it being voted on and passed by the full House and Senate. The bill is just another example of liberals pushing for complete firearm registration and will use S.2099 as a bargaining chip to secure passage of the Crime bill (S.254) which, if enacted, would be a dangerous step to full-blown registration. Some of the provisions of the bill include the following:It would amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require registration of all handguns, bureaucratic supervision of owners and would impose new taxes.

A $50 tax would be levied on the making of a handgun - meaning the purchase price would increase by that amount - and a $5 transfer tax would apply to ownership changes.

It would apply to consumers. But, it would effect manufactures, too, since any increase in price would mean a fall off in demand and thus, a reduction in profits.

Senator Reed said of the bill: "[It] would require registration of all handguns, including those currently in private possession and would make it a felony for any person to transfer a handgun to another individual without prior law enforcement approval."

In short, it would require federal involvement in any transfer of firearms even those acquired long ago.

Thank you for your support of Gun Owners of America.



-- William in WI (thetoebes@webtv.net), September 28, 2000.


William, thank you for sharing this post. This is an issue of concern to many here, I am sure.

I would also like to thank you for "reminding" us to check out the facts when researching or responding to an issue. I have been hanging out on the internet for almost 5 years and have seen many, many pieces of "information" come across and presented as fact, which in FACT, were false. Gerbil pointed out in another thread how one can/should check multiple sources in the search for "truth" in reporting, and I think that is very sound advice. These days with lots of political pandering going on in preparation for November's elections, you can hear just about anything you want to hear. Just be careful to check out the sources. And of course, mis-information happens in non-election years, too!

Thanks again, and as a responsible gun owner, I am interested in gun legislation.

-- sheepish (rborgo@gte.net), September 28, 2000.



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S 2099: A Test of American Resolve

Source: Sierra Times
Published: 8-26-00 Author: Colonel Dan

Responding to a proposal to register arms. "Absolutely not! If the people are armed and the federalists do not know where the arms are, there can never be an oppressive government." ~ George Washington ~

Our resolve to oppose gun registration is being tested by the liberal Democrats and they are using Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) as their point man. Senator Reeds Bill, S 2099, Handgun Safety and Registration Act of 2000, proposes registration and taxing of all handguns. Although I am life member and supporter of the NRA, they have seemingly poo pood this Act because it poses no real threat of passingtoday. I guess I see it in a somewhat different, more ominous light. I see this as the same old testing of the waters by the liberals to determine our level of resolve. A trial balloon to measure public reaction and to see just how far and how fast they can go in attaining their ultimate goal of confiscating your guns. We all knew proposals for registration were comingand the NRA knew it as well. Personally, I would follow a somewhat different course of action than that currently advocated by the NRA in response to this encroachment.

We all know that registration leads to confiscationit has wherever its been implemented, the most recent example being in Australia and California. The NRA has even warned of this over the years and reported the exchange below to verify the governments disregard of our right to keep and bear arms during the landmark case of US vs Emerson which was heard this summer:

Judge William Garwood, one of three judges on the panel that heard arguments, asked Mateja [US Government Attorney] if it was the government's position that it could "take guns away from the public," and "restrict ownership of rifles, pistols and shotguns from all people," to which Mateja responded, "Yes." ~ U.S. v. EMERSON ORAL ARGUMENTS: June 2000 ~

So again, we already know where this registration trail leads, yet when a bill is introduced that specifically calls for registration of handguns--the acknowledged first step to confiscation--the NRA cavalierly dismisses it as unworthy of concern. Here is the NRA position from their NRA-ILA web site:

As reported in a previous FAX Alert (Vol. 7, No. 12), there has been some concern among members of the pro-gun community over S. 2099, a bill introduced by anti-gun U.S. Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.). The bill seeks to amend the National Firearms Act (NFA) to treat handguns like fully automatic firearms, requiring them to be registered, and adding a $50.00 tax to any handgun transfer. While NRA opposes this legislation, there is no real threat of it passing at this time. Please continue to focus your energy on pending legislation in the U.S. House, and especially, in the U.S. Senate, that poses immediate threats to our freedoms. And remember, while Congress is on recess, continue to attend your lawmakers town hall meeting to voice your opposition to these "gun control" schemes.

What they are advising here is that Americans should not worry about a bill that has little chance of passing today, rather we should concern ourselves with other, more important things. The view from my saddle tells me that this attitude of not taking seriously any first step to confiscation as a real threat and striking it down hard and without hesitation is what led us from, "shall not be infringed." to the 20,000 gun laws we have today. I refer you to my column on Domination through Incrementalism for more on this modern liberal strategysee if you agree with the premise.

I read the bill itself, not just reports on the bill, and it clearly calls for registration in both its title, Handgun Safety and Registration Act of 2000, and its very first line:

"To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of handguns, and for other purposes."

That tax the NRA references is a very minor provision under those last few words, "and for other purposes." The tax is only a side benefit---you know as well as I the Democrats cant introduce any bill without attaching a tax of some sort to it and using their favorite agencythe IRS as their army of enforcement. And obviously they have to include the word "Safety" in there to further obfuscate the truth and make it more publicly palatable to the mindless masses. After all its really "for the children" but you knew thatdidnt you?

This bill has nothing whatsoever to do with safety or additional tax revenue. The truth of what its really designed to do is to test the water on the formal and legal establishment of a database of who owns the guns and where they are located. Although they are starting with handguns in this round, we know it wont stop there if we dont hammer it. But please dont take my word for it, its apparent the NRA doesnt agree with me on the bills importance so read it yourself and you decide. You can find the bill on the Senate Web Site at: http://www.senate.gov
When you reach that site, scroll down to the Bill Search section on the left and type in S 2099. Read it. Dont take my word or the NRAs word for anythingyou decide.

As I read it, this bill requires registration of all handguns, a tax imposed on those guns, establishes time limits for compliance of all previously unregistered handguns (similar to those provisions in California), the sharing of registration data with state and local enforcement agencies and establishes a Program of Public Awareness empowering the Secretary of the Treasury to start the process within 60 days of the enactment of this Act.

Now Im only a retired cavalryman and no political Machiavelli, but something tells me I should not just ignore this and move on to other, more important thingsin my opinion a bill calling for gun registration IS that more important thingregardless of its current chances to pass! Although this may not be the first-ever bill calling for registration, it is the most recent and comes at a time when guns are under severe attack from the left. If the Liberals see that they can get away with this little egg they laid, the next step will be to hatch more and bigger eggs and then let them all growunrestricted.

I called Senator Reeds office to discuss this bill and not only wouldnt they discuss it, they wouldnt even answer my most basic questions about it. All they said they were authorized to do was take my "yes" or "no" on support of this Act. [Remember what I said in my last column about people who have something to hide? I found that to be true in spades coming from Senator Reeds office]

Whether or not S 2099 has a chance to pass today is irrelevant to their ultimate goal. This is a test of Americas mettle. A test of Americas resolve to oppose registration by slipping this by as unobtrusively as possible in order to set the precedent and establish a law on the books that can be incrementally expanded down the trail. You know thats the way modern liberalism works and so does the NRA. If the liberals experience little or no pushback, they will rapidly go to the next level and add, rifles, shotguns, BB guns etc until they have a very comprehensive database. The time will then come to implement their "common sense confiscation program" because all their patience and valiant efforts to completely prevent gun violence have not been sufficient. They now have no choice but to confiscate everyones guns for the good of the country and that of the children.

However, if they meet with tremendous anger and stiff resistance, get their fingers burned on the issue right before Election 2000, they may not be so quick to lay any follow-on eggs. If they get an avalanche of angry opposition, even over this first hint of a registration program, they will back offparticularly during this campaign season when the politicians are fearful of alienating anyone and losing votes. But after election day, the attitudes will change. To be most effective, the reaction must be immediate and in overwhelming numbers to send that unmistakable message penned by our forefathers of, "DONT TREAD ON ME."

Remember how fast the liberals backed off the OSHA balloon that was recently floated regarding inspections of private homes that were used as work places? They got a firestorm of protest over that, got their fingers burned and consequently backed offfor now. I think we should take that same approach here. We must vehemently stop this embryo or it will grow into a monster, stepping on the constitution in the process, impacting your life, the lives of your children and our freedoms faster than you can ever imagine.

Even if the NRA proves to be right on target about the chances being nil of this particular bill passing at this time, expressing mountains of protest over registration will send Washington a clear and unmistakable message they wont soon forgetthe message being that we will never entertain the idea of registrationnot now, not ever.

Here is an alternate course of action that I would suggest the NRA consider:

1. No one should ignore it. To do so is a sure opening to more "common sense legislation" and sends a clear message that we dont care enough about our rights to fight for them.

2. Encourage people to send an avalanche of anger to Washington in the form of phone calls, email and letters to the following key people, candidates and organizations: [and yes, overwhelm the candidates too because it will be the next congress that acts on this bill not the current one]

a. Your Representatives and Senatorscurrent and running.

b. Sen. Jack Reed. (877) 778-9001, (202) 224 4642, (800) 284 4200. No Email

c. Sen. Trent Lott. Senate Majority Leader. (202) 224-6243. email: senatorlott@lott.senate.gov

d. Sen. Tom Daschle. Senate Minority Leader. (202) 224-2321. Email: tom_daschle@daschle.senate.gov

d. George W Bush. (512) 637-2000. Email: http://www.georgewbush.com and then pick your state from the list provided for the exact email address.

e. Al Gore. (615)340-2000. Email: townhall@algore2000.com

3. Begin contacting all gun rights organizations and push them to combine their resources and coordinate their efforts in the fight against this bill.

4. Finally, begin planning a massive, well-coordinated and well- publicized, civil disobedience program, letting it be known clearly to all and to Washington up front, that there is no way registration will ever be accepted in any form or at any level--California not withstanding but that could be turned around too given a national movement toward freedom. The IRS would have a bad time of it with millions of rebellious patriots on their hands dont you think?

I simply think the line must be drawn and registration is the place to do it. This bill is not a bill to be taken lightly merely because it poses no real threat of passing right now. The harder we hammer it today, the more resolve we demonstrate for tomorrow and the less likely such rotten eggs, now or in the future will hatch and grow into the oppressive Godzilla that Liberals envision.

Just the view from my saddle

The Colonel

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-- William in WI (thetoebes@webtv.net), September 28, 2000.


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