why isn't there a scrapheap challenge for under 16s?

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Can't there be a scrap heap challenge for school teams of under 16? There could be three school children and one teacher who knows what he's/she's doing as we younger people have just as good ideas as the rest of the people on the programe and some of us know enough to help out with the challenge.This could also help us to pass technology GCSE.As i feel that there could be some Bowser Munson wanabees out out there yours Steve

-- Steven James Martin (peter@cmartin32.fsnet.co.uk), September 17, 2000


I think there should be an under 16 game as well. But I also think there should be a family one. What about with three generations ?

Thomas Weightman

-- Thomas Weightman (thomas.weightman9@ntlworld.com), September 24, 2000.

I also think that there should be an under 16s programe because i enjoy watching the programe and i think i could come up with some good and maybe even better ideas and contributions as the older team members do .I would really enjoy coming on scrapheap and i am sure my other freinds who watch the show would as well, yours Tom Rigg

-- Thomas James Rigg (michael@rigg44.freeserve.co.uk), October 08, 2000.

yeah! there sould be a scrap heap callenge for under 16's. you could team up with a teacher from your school and maybe even meet some new people. this would be a great experience for those few young people who like designing and then making there ideas.

-- owen bryson (owen@prtlnd.demon.co.uk), November 05, 2000.

i agree mate i wouldn't have got this far in life if i wasn't so good at builing stuff. My best invention was the bodge tank and it was a one manned army tank that was powered by a lawnmower engine and has aluminium armour and was armed a gas cannon tht fired ping pong balls like a machine gun. Me and my mates get together at weekends and bodge together a machine and once a autogyro (helicopter) but it didn't fly but we mad the local paper with out collision with a tree on the run way. There should be an uder 16 program.

-- ben reynolds (phyco_reynolds@hotmail.com), November 05, 2000.

I think both the ideas fore the under 16's and the family one are realy good.I was atually looking to see if there was something like this when I came on so when I found it I was realy pleased to see that other people think this way too!So Scrap Heap ,please make it posible!

-- lizzy Spoerer (lizzylonglegs2000@hotmail.com), November 12, 2000.

I think they're not letting on under 16s because it's a bit too dangerous. Yeah, yeah, I've done stuff like this too, but it's not quite the same as these big guys lugging around massive bits of gas pipe and blowing stuff up. It would be a health and safety, red tape nightmare! :{

-- Rinsin Mclinton (rinsin@mclinton.com), November 14, 2000.

I think instead of having a teacher they migth sort of take over I think you sould have a periant who knows what there doing. But have a teacher if you want. Well basicaly have a adult Who knows what there doing.

-- Bejamin.c.w.Rolfe (98BBR31@upburymanor.medway.sch.uk), November 21, 2000.

I don't watch scrapheap challenge, I watch Junkyard wars. it's just the name we give it in the U.S. where i'm from. from what i see on sites like these that it's your 3rd season? it's like the 1 or 2 here but i would love to get out there and put something together. there making an american version in california and i would love to join in the fun.

-- Nic Richards (nicr04@yahoo.com), December 10, 2000.

The reason why the producers did not include teens is probably this: very few teens would have the education, expertise, and experience to do well on such a show. Consider the team of high-school technology teachers who made a number of egregious calculation errors while designing their machine in the 10 hours granted. If instructors found it difficult, imagine how difficult it would be for students. Nevertheless, having a kids version would certainly be fun and motivational to science students worldwide. Perhaps a simpler, safer, and scaled-down version of the show where only models were constructed would be more feasible.

-- Richard Ostrand (rostrand@postoffice.pacbell.net), December 15, 2000.

I think, that if this series will actually work the teams fourth member (the expert person) was an adult and if it wasn't just like the old series where the teams went out to fulfill a set task, but it was more of a crash course in the technology they dont teach you at school eg;mig welding,engines etc. then it might work. As you can tell I am very passonite about this because it might help with my GCSE's and every little helps Thanks Niall Oakes

-- Niall Oakes (oakesfamily@supanet.com), December 24, 2000.

I'm afraid the legal implications for an underage show would require the challenges to be a lot less exciting. The show doesn't want any kids getting hurt and then getting taken to court by their parents. I'm all for a kids version, I just don't know if it is legally possible without some drastic changes, changes that would make the show much less intersting.

-- www.geocities.com/kablamotheclown (kablamotheclown@yahoo.com), February 02, 2001.

i also belive that there should be a challenge for under 16s as we would be a hell of a lot better than the grown up's plus we could come up with much better ideas for challenges.

-- sam emmerson (june.emmerson@lineone.net), February 17, 2001.

I can see it now....Each team has to build a pokeman and save the world....Just kiddin. Everyone thinks they can come up with better challenge idea's but there's alot more to think about than meets the eye. Will the audience sit thru it, is it able to be done in 10 hrs, does it have that heavy, big, rusty, loud appeal? Will kids cut off their fingers. Will they listen to the adults who are running the show? Will they shut up when they're told to or throw a fit? Hey it may sound dumb but these are all serious questions.

-- John Gap (mindthegap64@hotmail.com), February 18, 2001.

yes i agree there should be under 16s scrap heap because they have good ideas and use the help of the adult or teacher

-- james (jammed@another.com), February 20, 2001.

Maybe someday there will be a show where they have the under 18 warriors visit the set, and sit in bleachers where they can heckle the teams while they work, and ask questions or make suggestions and remarks about how things are going. This would solve most of the liability issue, and at the same time get teens involved more with the show, and with them on the set, it could also improve the connection between the show and the younger audience, which is what the show is about anyway. This is just my thoughts about the "Teen JYW" idea. Another angle would be to have a team of teens connected with each team of adults for one show each season, ( or a seperate series) and have the teens direct the actions of the adults, who would actually be "hands on" with the machinery and tools. That way the teens could use their creativity, from an air conditioned safe room with a plexiglass wall, and have the product of their imagination translated into machinery by experienced adult teams. It would also be a study in the differences between the way the adult teams now solve the problems of building the mahcines and work things out, and the way teens would do it. It would be much better than leaving teens off the show altogether, which is the way is currently is done. Waddy, "expert" for the "Rusty Juveniles"

-- Waddy Thompson (cthomp3851@aol.com), February 24, 2001.

I totally agree with this, i enjoy sitting and watching Scrapheap Challenge, but also sometimes i sit and think well I well i could have come up with a better idea(S)than that.Also it might even help me to get good GCSE grades(which would mean a alot to me)i like to construct things in my spare and i thewn like to look back and admire my work i aso like to wrk in a team and tackle practical tasks as part of a team if they was to be a scrap heap challenge for under 16's then i could almost definately come up with at least 4 other people to help with the work

-- lee grundy (biggrund@aol.com), November 25, 2001.

i aggree!!!!!! i think that it would help with GCSE's and CE's i think that the producers are scared that it is too dangerous but i think that you should have friends, or familys, or one adult and the rest under 16. i think that it would brodden childrens imagination and i think that it might help people with learning problems and disruptive children, i think that it would be a brilliant step forward , it would also give children the knowlelge to get jobs that they like and enjoy and that are wll paid.

-- Charlie (cft1000@aol.com), January 03, 2002.

I think this is a really good idea. They have to get teen's involved. There are so many Teenagers that watch the show and are frustrated because they can't do the same things. A family team would be the best way of doing this. This would 1.Get a wider audence and 2.If a teenager sees another of their age on the show it would give them an incentive that they could do it aswell. I, like many other teen's have a creative and hand's on family. I do see this program being a success but we need support from people like us to push it forward. Come on scrapheap make it happen!

-- Roland Skinner (skinns46@hotmail.com), May 05, 2002.

I do agree it's a great idea, but I guess the reason they haven't done it is because I guess it's rather dangerous, after all welding etc. is involved-and you don't learn about that in school!

-- Danielle Marie Button (buttons@parkerrd.freeserve.co.uk), May 08, 2002.

I also think there should be a scrapheap challange for under 16's because a lot of us have all the skills you need and we can all contribute Ideas for the machine plus its realy unfair on us because we can watch adults doing scrapheap but we can't do it ourselves.

-- Peter Matthew Lyon (peter.m.lyon@ntlworld.com), May 27, 2002.

i'm 14, me and my mate go out to the local area that 'resposeal adults' dump stuff. we take some tools and a car battrey (to test the stuff) and take the working bits home. in are workshop we then made something from it. is this that scrapheap challenge is about??? the idea of a uder 16's show this brill! it would have kids learning about stuff to do with building. DO IT!!!!!

-- alex b. (alex_the_nutter@yahoo.co.uk), August 15, 2002.

the t.v programme is poooooooo

-- phil george hodsoned (phil@hodson1988.fsnet.co.uk), November 22, 2002.

I submitted to this bout 2 years ago and now they finally have a kid junkyard wars. it sucks. a bus shows up to a house full of junk obviously put there for each challenge. then they build something stupid like a water gun that takes about 30 minutes to build. im 16 now and still wanna get to go out in a junyard and build sumthin. also, if you all r woundering im from the U.S. so its junkyard wars over here not scrapheap challenge. and the kid version is like operation junkyard or sumthin like that even though they stay at home and the junk comes to them.

-- Nic Richards (nicr04@yahoo.com), January 01, 2003.

I think the same. There should be a kid scrapheap.I dunno if it does exists, cause i am Dutch. But i know a lot about junk and a friend of mine can weld. so if we could we would make a great team. I am only 11 but it would be great fun.

-- Roy Smeding (sandrasmeding@hotmail.com), March 17, 2003.

Scrap heap challange Under 16's would be perfect for me ,as i love to build things.i totally agree with ascrap heap challange u16's.

-- daniel johnson (ste-dee@lineone.net), October 27, 2003.

i think they should 2, i would love 2 do summet like that & with safty they could allways have somone teaching and guiding you. i dont think they should make it less exiting though, they should keep the driving and stuff, so there is somwere 4 under 16s to do stuff like that in a controlled enviroment and legaly.

-- Adam fielding (adam_f_41@hotmail.com), November 30, 2003.

I also think there should be a scrapheap challenge for under 16's, my dad is teaching me how to grind and weld safely aswell as not so dangerous tools, i think it would be alright because as long as you have parental consent and a basic safety breif at the begining of the event. Please contact me if you have any news.

-- Roger Shepherd (rogerstractors@hotmail.com), December 09, 2003.


-- ??????????????????????? (gbfhbgf@trhtrhb.com), January 13, 2004.

yo ppl wot you doig email me if ur a boy under 16 I gotta mechanic job for ya

-- carly clarke (clarc015@medway.org.uk), January 22, 2004.

Skrapheap chalenge is phat they shud make 1 where u go n make sum phat guns n shoot sum phat stuff n then go n have a phat chongin session n watch skrapheap chalenge lol.

-- sLiCk RiCk (djslick_rick@hotmail.com), March 04, 2004.

yeah i watch it evry time its on and i think it amazing if they do decide to let under 16s do it then that will be amazing because not all under 16s no wot they are doing so it will be funny but nearlly all adults will no wot they are doin from danny (rabbit)

-- danny (big_bro123456@yahoo.co.uk), July 02, 2004.

I think there should be an under 16 scrapheap challenge. I am 13 and i have already cleaned the carbs on my moms car{peugeot 405} and hot wired my dads car for work. I have learnt it all myself and enjoy working in a technalogical environment. They should give us a safety and technology test and if we pass let us on the show. from maddmatt

-- Matthew Edward Bates (www.boomattoe@yahoo.co.uk), July 12, 2004.

I agree with the idea, I think many 16 year olds have the expertise, the talent and the creative spurt to invent some excellent machines. Unfortunately there is the issue of Health & Safety. It would be very, very difficult to insure people under 16 for such dangerous challenges. Take, for example, the challenge of building a jet engine. Had a weld broken, the whole contraption could explode, and unfrotunately in today's society children are not trusted as mch as adults, although it is commonplace for them to be far more so. I'm 15, and I've built just about everything from a hovercraft powered by baloons to a small helicopter and a Go Kart powered by air pressure!

-- Ben (thats4me2know@no.com), July 13, 2004.

i agree, i think there should be a episode or more where two teams of equal age compete. But I also think the task HAS to be a lot easier due to the fact that they are under 16, and not as educated as adults. Never the less i think it would be a great idea and also i think that a family episode would hit it on the spot.

-- Robert Leo Fregolle III (froggy_fregolle@hotmail.com), August 06, 2004.

I think that there should be a Scrapheap Challange style show for under 16s but I think it may be better if instead of building huge things on the scrap heap, we could build smaller things at home (eg. go-karts, cross-bows or smaller versions of what they usualy build)

-- Matthew Paul Manning (nealemanning@aol.com), December 05, 2004.

Im 15 and I did a test, it turns up im in the top 1% of the country for machanical skill, If I got taught the stuff I needed, (Basic Principles of Engene Functions etc) How to Wield, and have the tools, i would be doing my own scrap heap challege every day of the year, If any1 enters the scrapheap challege and needs an extra team member My emails danc@dsl.pipex.com (its My DREAM) Until i can do it myself. + any1 know any gd websites that explain how things are done?


-- Dan (danc@dsl.pipex.com), January 11, 2005.

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