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"Did you ever see an unhappy horse? Did you ever see a bird that had the blues? One reason why birds and horses are not unhappy is because they are not trying to impress other birds and horses"

Dale Carnegie

Just a thought for the day.

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), August 30, 2000

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Jeez, you mean to tell me Mr. Car-NAY-gee never met an unhappy horse or bird? One reason might be he never spent any time around these creatures.

In the immortal words of Andy (of TB2000 infamy) "what a maroon!"

Sorry to shoot this one down, FS. They can't all be gems. Then again, I may very well be missing the whole point of your post. Wouldn't be the first time I limboed into lower consciousness on this board.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), August 30, 2000.


"...limboed into lower consciousness..."

Excuse me for stepping on your thread, FS, but I felt a need to point out that this particular phrase gave me one of the best belly laughs of the day, thanks to the accompanying visual (I have a pretty warped imagination sometimes).

Bingo, you are a gem!!

-- Patricia (PatriciaS@lasvegas.com), August 30, 2000.


The phrase about marooons does not belong to copy cat Andy.

The worlds' educated elite know that the phrase was given to us from the lips of the Great Supreme Master : Mr. Bugs Bunny, himself referring to such people as Gold Brickhead Andy.

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 30, 2000.


FS,

If we were playing word association, 'horse' immediately fires off 'ornery' in my mind. I'm always amused when folks think singing birds are so 'happy', when in nautre the bird is comunicating 'look at me, & if you're not a nubile female member of my species - I'll kick your ass if I can'.

Bongo,

You make that sound as if that's a BAD thing.

cpr,

Did you miss the race flame war on the old bomb over Andy using that term?

-- flora (***@__._), August 30, 2000.


Of course, Mr. cpr. You are correct. I just took the opportunity to remind some folks of one of the incredibly horrendous offenders of all that is decent in internet fora debate. Andy assasinated anyone who dared step outside his shit-filled fish bowl on a minute-to- minute basis with vile, hate-filled diatribes, both childish and clever. Andy was the anti-Car-NAY-gee. cpr has certainly locked up the award for this year.

Patricia, right back at you. Sparkle, sparkle. Go check Doc's LV site, BTW. More visuals for ya.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), August 30, 2000.



Bingo:

Wrong interpretation my friend. As stated, this is just a though for the day-I had not expressed an opinion, pro or con. When I think it is a gem I will be sure to say so-LOL.

Anyway, I am not that crazy about the metaphor, but the principle is about the trap of adulation-most folk are concerned about how others think about them, and feel "good" if others feel good about them, and "bad" if others feel negative toward them.

I think Carnegie was trying to say, through a jumbled metaphor, that when you detach, when you are just yourself and have no vested interest in having others approve of you, it gives you a greater advantage in life.

Limbo away, good buddy.

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), August 30, 2000.


Bottom line, FS: I'd rather read YOUR thoughts of the day rather than Mr. Car-NAY-gee's any old time. One Mr. FutureShock has an ability to think, feel and write more clearly, deeply and cogently than most I've come across.

Won't you please grace us with more of YOUR writing? Do I hear a second?

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), August 30, 2000.


Second!!

BTW, I can vouch for what FS said; I've become much better IN life and AT life when it wasn't important to me what others thought; when I didn't care if I was going to be "accepted" or not.

-- Patricia (PatriciaS@lasvegas.com), August 30, 2000.


GODS=WISDOM--SEPARATED THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 30, 2000.

Bottom line = it really doesn't pay to give too much of a fuck.The world just keeps on turnin',be happy.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), August 30, 2000.


How LOW can you GO?

-- (nemesis@awol.com), August 30, 2000.

Thread hijack alert! Do not read this, if you think keeping a thread on track i important!

>> I've become much better IN life and AT life when it wasn't important to me what others thought; when I didn't care if I was going to be "accepted" or not. <<

Ah! And how well do most of us deal with this particular attitude when the "other" is our spouse? This treads a fine line, indeed! We want to care what out spouse thinks. We must. When we stop caring about it, we stop caring about our spouse.

But, some measure of not caring is also required, so that we keep our sanity and our dignity intact in a marriage. Major conundrum, at times.

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), August 31, 2000.


um...have you ever heard the phrase "proud as a peacock"? If a peacock isn't trying to impress other peacocks with all that plumage, then who is he trying to impress hmmm?

I believe other animals exhibit some of these same behaviors. Now now, I realize it was just an analogy, but...

-- cin (cin@=0).cin), August 31, 2000.


Yes, I have seen an unhappy horse and one parakeet that was so depressed that it pulled nearly all of its feathers out, both have recovered.

-- r (r.1@juno.com), August 31, 2000.

R: did they live w/cpr? :-0

-- (notcprs@fan.not), August 31, 2000.


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