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-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 26, 2000

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The current BS about Oil running out is

30 yrs. dated


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-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 26, 2000.

And a-one and a-two and a-three---

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-- (RedundancyGuy@OneNote.Samba), August 26, 2000.


cpr,

STFU

-- (Comes@Around.IsHere), August 26, 2000.


PS, Paula, They've got me locked up in here for observation, but I sneaked down here to the Admnistration offices, so don't think I can't REPLY. Go ahead, give it your best shot. And when I get out, there's more where THIS came from.

Soon, the whole world will know what I KNEW ALL ALONG! What they SHOULD have known! DAMN! This constant RINGING!

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 26, 2000.


That's a nice story, cpr, but it is pure speculation. Or in your language, pure BULLSHIT. It uses words like ESTIMATE and UNDISCOVERED. Come on cpr, you know us, we want FACTS.

Here's a fact. Oil is now at $32 bucks, and it shows no signs of going down any time soon. Oh yea, you make a big deal out of it going down 50 cents for a day. But you have no comment on the day before, when it went up a buck, or the day before that, when it went up another buck.

Here's a little more speculation for you, cpr, and a link to another thread on this forum:

Oil shock - $50 per barrel within the next year?

I'm a little busy now, but I'll be back. Have a nice day... <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 26, 2000.



SissyBoy the Pencil Head: YOU MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES WITH OIL AS YOU DO AND STILL DO ABOUT Y2k. IN SHORT.....YOU NEVER LEARN...YOU JUST GROW OLDER......(TYPICAL OF MOST AMERICAN MALES).

You continue to reveal your lack of formal education with RANDOM DATA (). THE STUDY THAT IS LINKS IS A MERE : 32,000 pages long. YOU couldn't even begin to read it and make "sense of it" unless you go to some Oil Shortage Forum just opened on the Net and get "INPUT".

OIL WAS $30-40/BBL back about 1980. IN **REAL U$ DOLLARS** no matter how you measure it: cash, minutes worked per gallon of gas, percentage of total family income, percentage of operating expenses for a Company......OIL IS DOWN TO 1/3 of what it was in **1980**. YOU toss in the $32/BBL ....TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULL SHIT. IN **REAL DOLLARS IT COULD BE $75 /BBL and have still be "affordable". WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR POINT ???

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 27, 2000.


cpr..cpr. Your fever has caused to to become delirous again. I do not care what you think should be the right price for gasoline. The entire matterof 190 dollars verus 2000 dollars falls by the way side here old boy.

If you wish for a more correct measure. Then measure the minimun wage of 1980 to that of 2000..Take these two scales and weight them against the price of a gallon of gasoline.

When the lower tiered (at or near the minimum wage level) employed can no longer buy gas for their 10-15 year old cars so that they can go to work. This ountry and you up there in the Big D complex will be in a world of hurt pard. Can you say riots? Or worse!

Poor fellow, I just hope that the nurse's aide pulls you in out of the sun in a bit.

"As for me....I shall finish the Game"!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Shakey~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- Shakey (in_a_bunker@forty.feet), August 27, 2000.


YOU toss in the $32/BBL ....TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULL SHIT. IN **REAL DOLLARS IT COULD BE $75 /BBL and have still be "affordable". WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR POINT ???

True, the price of oil when adjusted for inflation was at its highest in 1981. That price wasn't exactly affordable, though. The unemployment rate as a result of the 1981-82 recession reached almost 10%.

Whether or not there's going to be a recession this time around related to oil is not known yet. But one point which does merit repeating is that businesses and individuals might want to consider way to mitigate the impact on their finances of a sudden jump in heating costs this winter.

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=003i3Z

Thursday August 24, 7:21 pm Eastern Time

Heating Prices To Affect Consumers

American Consumers Will Face Much Steeper Home Heating Bills This Winter With Natural Gas and Heating Oil Prices Near Historic Highs

By DAVE CARPENTER
AP Business Writer

CHICAGO (AP) -- Already walloped by a rise in gasoline costs this year, American consumers are now about to face much steeper home heating bills with natural gas and heating oil prices near historic highs.

Energy markets were jolted this week by a combination of developments that sent prices shooting higher -- an unexpected drop in U.S. crude oil stockpiles coupled with a pipeline explosion in New Mexico and a hurricane that raised fears of another blow to already-low natural gas supplies.

Soon the aftershocks will be felt by consumers nationwide, whose utilities already were warning them to brace for big bills ahead.

Suzanne deGraff, a natural gas customer from Rochester, N.Y., said she's been told her monthly bill from Rochester Gas and Electric Co. will jump about $26 to $130.

``I'm not happy,'' she said, ``but, again, they're the only ones in town. What am I going to do?''

Whether a customer's utility provides natural gas or heating oil, there appears to be no way around prices heading higher than last winter -- one of the costliest home heating seasons ever.

Home heating oil prices surged Wednesday to their highest since the Gulf War in the wake of industry surveys showing inventories of U.S. crude oil, its source, dropping to 24-year lows. Energy prices retreated slightly Thursday on the New York Mercantile Exchange, but heating oil remains more than 50 percent more expensive than a year ago.

The increase is blamed partly on the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its decision to cut back production last year after prices swooned.

Natural gas has rocketed upward for different reasons.

U.S. supplies of natural gas have been declining since the mid-1990s amid a falloff in production by energy firms that didn't find it worth their while when prices were low.

Prices are no longer cheap -- they've more than doubled in the last year and a half and reached an all-time high of $4.85 per 1,000 cubic feet this week on the New York Merc, where futures prices are a precursor for wholesale and retail trends.

Making matters worse, production hasn't been revved back up, rising just 1 percent this year. And demand is up sharply in a booming economy that has more Americans plugging into computers and industrial use surging. The nation depends increasingly on natural gas to generate electricity as utilities gradually switch from coal and nuclear-powered plants.

The situation has worsened this summer, with heavy usage to help supply demand created by air conditioners preventing the industry from stockpiling for the winter heating season ahead as it usually does. Natural gas inventories are near six-year lows.

That leaves gas prices highly susceptible to supply disruptions -- such as last Saturday's pipeline explosion in New Mexico that killed 11 people and shut down a primary gas main supplying California. Hurricane Debby's brief advance toward key production facilities in the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico raised fears of similar trouble and propelled prices higher before they fell back.

If further disruptions or heavy demand drain dwindling stockpiles further, rationing and industrial shutdowns are ``a pretty good possibility'' this winter, especially involving natural gas, says analyst Michael Lynch of WEFA, an economic think tank in Bedford, Mass.

Edward Kelly of Cambridge Energy Research Associates in Houston stops short of predicting such an energy crisis. But he says the market is the most vulnerable it's been since energy deregulation two decades ago.

``It's the worst situation since at least the early 1980s,'' he said. ``It's been difficult ... to store enough gas for this winter.''

Experts say consumers could skate by this winter only if last year's warmest winter on record is followed by one just as warm or warmer. But according to at least some meteorologists, the pattern of historically warm winters is at an end.

``If we have a winter that's just normal, we're going to see potentially astronomical natural gas prices -- much higher than we see today,'' said David Chang, senior energy trader for Bank of America in New York.

Karen Drudi of West Springfield, Mass., is unhappy with the prospect of even higher natural gas prices. ``It's not a luxury to be able to heat your home,'' she said.

Her family, which spent about $550 on gas heat last winter, will blunt the burden of higher prices with more use of its wood stove. But, she said, ``It's a lot easier to just walk over and turn the thermostat up.''



-- This (is@the.point), August 27, 2000.


What's my point, cpr?

My point is that YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT! You've been telling us for months now that the price of oil will drop. You said so at $28, again at $30, and you still keep it up at $32.

Face it cpr, you're just plain WRONG! Failed OPEC promises, one inventory shortage after another, production problems... Oil isn't going down next week, next month, and I doubt next year.

But the great cpr has to make a big deal out of a one day drop. Start a new thread, calling people bozos and morons. Yet you ignore the increases of the day before, and the day after.

You know cpr, I've made up with many of my "polly enemies" since rollover, and I've tried to do the same with you, many times. But you just ignore it. You continue with your kindergarden name calling, and insults. So FUCK IT cpr, FUCK your giant EGO, and know it all attitude. Is summary, FUCK YOU cpr.

<:!=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 27, 2000.


OK, OK, I'm SORRY, LOOK; I know I've been kind of rough, but that's MY WAY of bonding. But if you want to BURY THE HATCHET, well alright then. I need you to do me a favor in return. Get me OUT of here! Look, "they're" tinkering with my meds, and they're driving me up the WALL! I think I was OKAY before they put me in here, but now, I'm not sure....DAMN! I got to go......

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 27, 2000.


GET A LIFE SISSY-BOY. THERE ARE FEW AMERICANS TODAY WHO CAN **not** AFFORD TO PAY TO $2.00 GALLON FOR GASOLINE.

OIL IS THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS FOR THE Y2K TWITS WHO CLAIM PRODUCTION SLOWDOWNS WERE CAUSED BY Y2K PROBLEMS. BUT EVEN THE OIL **DOOM DUMMIES** POST THAT PRODUCTION IS AT 96%.

**SOME "SLOWDOWN**.

HOW STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE??

WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE SALARY IN 1980 VS. 2000?

WHY DON'T YOU CLOWNS BITCH ABOUT THE PRICE OF MILK OR STUPID "ASPIRIN". A BOTTLE OF 100 ASPIRIN HAS RISEN FROM 49 CENTS IN 1980 TO 1.49 TO 1.99.

GASOLINE IS AN **ABSOLUTE BARGAIN** FOR AMERICANS VS. PRICING ACROSS THE WORLD.

HEATING OIL AND NATURAL GAS ARE STILL CHEAP AS A PERCENTAGE OF **TAKE HOME PAY 2000**.

CONTRASTED TO 1980 IT MIGHT TAKE 50-75/BBL CRUDE TO CAUSE A SERIOUS RECESSION.

OPEC IS MORE THAN AWARE OF THAT WHICH IS WHY THEIR TARGET RANGE IS 22- 28.

AND.....I **DID NOT POST THIS***:

OK, OK, I'm SORRY, LOOK; I know I've been kind of rough, but that's MY WAY of bonding. But if you want to BURY THE HATCHET, well alright then. I need you to do me a favor in return. Get me OUT of here! Look, "they're"

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 27, 2000.


Did I post that? Help me. Help me, please.

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 28, 2000.

"OIL IS THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS FOR THE Y2K TWITS WHO CLAIM PRODUCTION SLOWDOWNS WERE CAUSED BY Y2K PROBLEMS."

Wrong aginn, genius. YOU are the only one here that keeps talking about Y2K.

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 28, 2000.


Hey, Sysman, I think you'd better see what Paula Gordon's been doing before making statements like you've made here.

-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), August 28, 2000.

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/brief/brhist.pdf

-- cc (a@s.m), August 28, 2000.


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