why GOD-hates sin!

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because it kill's his creatures[people]-some quickly-others-slowly! why do we sin?--because we are=helpless -born-that-way! so WHAT's the CURE?-for years i hated GOD, and said-hey i didn't ask to be born!!''wrong-focus''i was ignorant of the=FACT-that the sin-problem had been dealt-with!ALL-SIN-WAS-PUT-ON-JESUS!! HE BECAME-SIN-ON-CROSS!!& all he asked is simple=trust!! it's the great-exchange--all my sins-for-all-his-goodness!! it never was about=what i can do--it's about=what HE HAS DONE!! *IF YOUR=PERFECT-IGNORE THIS -POST!!*

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000


"because we are=helpless-born-that-way!"

So God made us this way and then goes to all this muss and fuss Jesus stuff to save us from the way He made us? Huh?

-- (I'm@a.loss), August 23, 2000.

I AM perfect, and there is no such thing as sin.

Please explain something to me Al... exactly how does this work? How does Jesus dying on a cross have anything to do with saving us, if we are still allowed to "sin" as much as we want? How much sin did he take from us, and isn't it about time to come back and take some more? Does he have a limit on how much sin he can take away from us, like 100lbs. per death, or 100 trillion sins every 5000 years? Can you be more specific, exactly how this works?

-- (creation@is.perfect), August 23, 2000.

thanks too adam & eve-we[thier-offspring]are fallen-thru-there fall! sin-entered-thru there=disobedience!!BUT wait-wait-before you get huffy--they we're no-match for=satan!!yes they bought the=lie! and it cost them!!BUT--GOD had a plan!!you gotta understand-GOD wasn't pleased with there=disobidience--so why didn't he just zap-them?? *READ THE BOOK OF=GENENIS--SEE GOD giving the promise of a SAVIOUR! SEE THE 1ST=SACRIFICE-A-LAMB=TYPE OF=JESUS!! *GET THE WHOLE-STORY--NOT BITS & PIECES* if GOD didn't love us-in-spite of the sin-problem-he could of ended it all--then!!----the problem with most--preachers-is they leave=satans part-out of the-story!! ever heard of=temtation?---wanna get a kid in trouble??work on his =weakness!!--satan hates GOD--but can't overcome him--so who does he pick-on?? you got it=GODS kids!! so satan=uses our weakness-against-us!! BUT we have a=saviour--who=paid our debt!! why do many=reject our wonderful=SAVIOR?? you-got-it!same old game-- they believe the lie!!-that GOD is mean & about =rules & regs. folks =GOD took our place on the cross!! stop=blaming GOD our FATHER---put the blame where it belongs!! GOD & JESUS are=1.get it??do you understand=justice?? GOD said=sin must be--punished---[who wants to live in a funky- heaven]so GOD takes the rap--for his people!! if that ain't=LOVE-then i'm the president of america!![not] HE->GOD[IN JESUS] bought us back!! it took his blood---to save us from the crud-of-sin--yes sin is dirty!!---satan feeds on sin!!like flies feed on corruption!! *satan is called=[lord of the flies]-so who want's too be his=flunky?? sin=death!! if something-or-someone was killing your-child--what would you do?? what price would you PAY for a cure??? GOD PAID THE PRICE--WE MUST BE WORTH=ALOT!!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000.

HI-> I AM PERFECT, REALLY??--SO HOW DID YOU GET=PERFECT? LOL!! only GOD is perfect---yah now tell me your=GOD!! right on---created any universis-lately??spoke anything into- existance-lately??well if your =equal with =GOD-ALMIGHTY--you'll never die!!----and surely'yo don't have=health-insurance/-do you? can you walk on water??---can you knock=evil angels out of heaven??? what kinda mushroom did you say-that was???

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000.

oh yes, you asked 'how much sin can he take away??====ALL i mean -after all--he is=GOD-ALMIGHTY!! YOU KNOW =PERFECT IN ALL HE DOES!!! it's sooo-simple--believe & recieve!!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000.

"BUT we have a=saviour--who=paid our debt!!"

You mean God is like a banker, keeping track of our "sins" and our "good things", and we must maintain a positive balance or he will kill somebody?

Man, that's a bummer... God sounds like J.P. Morgan!

" why do many=reject our wonderful=SAVIOR?? you-got-it!same old game-- they believe the lie!!-that GOD is mean & about =rules & regs. folks =GOD took our place on the cross!! stop=blaming GOD our FATHER---put the blame where it belongs!! GOD & JESUS are=1.get it??"

Now this part creates quite a contradiction for me.

If dying is something we should fear, and God is not mean, then why would he make a sacrifice of something we fear to make us feel guilty?

If dying is NOT something to fear, then what is the big sacrifice in dying on the cross? As far as I know, Jesus is flying around in space having a blast!

-- (religions.are@totally.illogical), August 23, 2000.

RELIGIONS.ARE.--nice try-at twisting-post!! if you don't want the cure--refuse it---it's your-soul. but if your TRULY-CONFUSED. resd the bible-GODS=TESTIMONY to us!! or go-on being=satans-flunky!! he's=DYING--for=company!!!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000.


-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000.

"because we are=helpless-born-that-way!"

al-d, the title of this thread is "why GOD-hates sin!". Does God hate the way we are born? You write that we sin because we are born that way. Did God not create us? If so, why did He create something just to hate it?

I am not twisting your writing. I noticed your defense earlier: accuse someone with a logical response to you of manipulating your words, and then contribute nothing meaningful to the discussion.

My challenge to al-d: why don't you carefully read the questions I asked above and try to answer them without preaching to me, and without trying to avoid responding by just being confusing.

-- careful what you preach (church@is.man.not.god), August 23, 2000.


"p.s---dying is NOT=something-to-fear---death is a release from sin & sorrow!!---going to be with the=LORD!!"

I agree, I look forward to death. Why then was it such a bitch for Jesus to die? Why did he suffer? Why was it a sacrifice? He should have been stoked that he was going back to see the old man.

-- (doesnt@make.sense), August 23, 2000.

dear=doesn't make sense, the bible say'a=JESUS endured the cross- looking forward to the JOY-of being=saviour

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 23, 2000.

So what exactly did Jesus sacrifice for us if he came out better off in the long run?

-- (dont@follow.you), August 23, 2000.

Does God hate Cin too?

-- (nemesis@awol.com), August 23, 2000.

Hey Al, the bible might be a nice fairy tale, but it's all lies. Jesus went to heaven, and left us here in hell with all the "sinners". Who did he save, besides himself?

-- (meek.inherit.earth@six.feet.deep), August 24, 2000.

HI MEEK??MEEK?? theres a whole lotta saved people with him in heaven!!what about the thief on the cross?? the prostitute--the murderer-they all made it--NO THE BILBE isn't lying=YOU ARE!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 24, 2000.

make that=BIBLE--not bilbe--for all the nit-pickers-who never make=mistakes!!!--hey maybe thats- mr. meeks problem=he's reading the bilbe-sounds like 1 of satans nick-names=beezlbub-ba al-bilbe!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 24, 2000.

ba-al--not al bilbe!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), August 24, 2000.

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