I've got a friend that knows a lot more about cybertracking than I do, and he confirmed for me today that the person who has stolen my identity and is posting all kinds of lies is of course none other than ...

FUCKING CREEPER!!

We also confirmed that he has been posting under several other fake names, posted the pornography last night, and posted the "nigger free speech" thread. That is why he is so aggressively opposed to having a forum moderator, because they might put an end to his fucking low-life games.

He has destroyed all sense of civility, credibility, and any hope of having intelligent discussion on this forum, and will continue to do so until someone lays down the law around here. We need Unk as our new forum moderator!!

CREEPER, YOU ARE A SEVERELY DISTURBED EGOMANIAC ASSWIPE DIPSHIT, AND YOU NEED HELP! ON SECOND THOUGHT, YOU ARE BEYOND HELP!

-- (the.original@bird.man), August 07, 2000

Answers

I'd like to think that the real Hawk isn't this stupid, so I'm going to say that this one's the imposter.

-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), August 07, 2000.

hmmm,

Just givin' 'em enough rope...

Hawk

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), August 07, 2000.

Hmmmm, sorry but you really are wrong. What do you mean stupid? We CONFIRMED it!!

Look at all of the posts by "Hawk" within the last week. He puts the name Hawk at the bottom of the posts, which I never did. Look at all of the archives.

Look at the other threads he has been posting under fake names like "Guess Whoo (guesswhoo@HawkHunters.com)".

He has been pissed evr since I took attention away from him as Big Text Man, and now he is posting attacks on other people using my previous name. He has been taking over this forum for the last 3 months and goes crazy unless he gets all the attention. I'm telling you, the guy is severely psychotic.

It seems we have some kind of sysop, who deleted the pornography from yesterday. Perhaps this person could confirm that this is the real me, and the others are coming from Creepers location. I'm telling you the truth.

(*V*)

-- I was Hawk (sysop@please.confirm), August 07, 2000.

the real hawk is posting as hawk. the troll is using other names.

i see your ip

-- I know (who@you.are), August 07, 2000.

Hawk,

You must chill out, my good fellow.

And listen, don't tell people it was ME who helped you "trace" "Creeper" okay? I haven't exactly been batting 1.000 lately when it comes to knowing things about computers if you know what I mean...

Love,

Ed

-- Ed Yourdon (ed@yourdon.com), August 07, 2000.

"the real hawk is posting as hawk. the troll is using other names.

i see your ip

-- I know (who@you.are), August 07, 2000."

You're a fucking liar creeper! You just posted this, and the above post as Hawk.

Anyone can say that they know an ip an it matches another one. Prove it you lying sack of shit, and I don't mean just typing the same ip location. Get the sysop to prove it!

-- (creeper.is.@fucking.asswipe), August 07, 2000.

troll, the gig is up.

I am a sysop. everyone here seems to realize that but you. perhaps you should troll a little better and longer before you attempt to seize an identity on my board.

i see your ip

-- I know (who@you.are), August 07, 2000.

Haaa haaa!! Very funny asshole!

Oh yeah, I'm a sysop too, and I see your ip, and it is the same as creepers.

If you see my ip, put it here asshole, I dare you! And put the creeps too, you spineless bastard.

Hasn't anyone noticed how creeper isn't responding on the other threads while he is distracted here? Take a look!

How come he hasn't responded on THIS thread, after I just revealed him as my troll? Isn't he going to defend himself? Bet he will now, now that I've pointed it out.

-- (you.guys@know.me!), August 07, 2000.

troll, you are obviously a juvenile who lacks attention at home and seeks it here.

i will not play your petty games. i know who you are, and you know i know. but if you insist, you can post your ip here and i'll confirm whether or not you're lying. deal?

i see your ip

-- I know (who@you.are), August 07, 2000.

The original Hawk is easy to spot on this thread. He used a trademark some of us remember. One that can be verified from the archives of the old TB if anyone doubts it. The "real" Hawk on this thread is...

the original bird man
I was Hawk
creeper is...
you guys know me

I often disagree with you Hawk, but identity theft really pisses me off. Have you tried writing to OTBFR? More likely she'll respond to email than posts on the forum.

Anyway, FWIW, it is now verified that the real Hawk is using handles other than Hawk. So posts signed by hawk@flyin.hi are fakes.

-- (xxx@xxx.xxx), August 07, 2000.

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!!!!

You are absolutely correct about which ones I posted.

I'll try OTFR if she is still there, but I don't think she will try to stop creeper. He has set out to destroy this forum, and he is so mentally ill that he is harder to stop than LL was.

Is this Patrick? I think so, you always were a compassionate person. Sorry about the disagreements, but even worse is not having people know that they are coming from me. I like to be honest, and people can take it or leave it. Now I have someone posting lies and people thinking it is me.

Thanks again, friend. :-)

-- (you.are@very.observant), August 08, 2000.

Give it a break, troll! You've convinced what? one person you're me? And it's that fucking intellectual dwarf Patrick? Are you going to tell him you're Santa Claus next? He'll believe you! Asswipe.

Hawk

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), August 08, 2000.

"you are very observant" (the real Hawk). No, I'm not Patrick. You probably don't remember me. We once had a late-night conversation going on a thread about a radar screen anamoly. You posted some great pics links. When asked, you told me about your long-time interest in weather. I rarely post these days. Sorry about your problems here.

-- (xxx@xxx.xxx), August 08, 2000.

That's avery pitiful attempt at impersonating me creeper you asshole. There are millions of things you are doing wrong. I never use the word "dwarf" for starters. Study the archives jerkoff, maybe some day you'll be as good as me. Some day, like NEVER!

BTW, CREEP! How come you haven't posted on this thread using your real name, cpr? Cpr would certainly be more than a little pissed and yelling and screaming at being revealed as my troll.

The answer; because I've kept you so distracted trying to impersonate me that you haven't been able to post as cpr! Hahahaaha!! Beat you at your own game ASSHOLE!!! Everyone knows now that you are phony psycho trolling sack of shit! Get lost! Go back to your debunkies and cry!!!

-- (no.one.can@fake.me), August 08, 2000.

Yes, I do remember than night friend, we were up pretty late! It was fun thinking that someone was invading us or ufos were coming. I don't recall the name but I'll look it up. Thanks again for your help. Happy trails!

-- (you@got.it.right), August 08, 2000.

Hi "Real Hawk"! (*V*)

-- Grace (SincerelyGrace@aol.com), August 08, 2000.

Hi Amazing Grace! You remember my face!! Thanks, that's something this idiot troll didn't think of. Good evening to you. :-)

-- (yep@that's.me), August 08, 2000.

My troll said It was fun thinking that someone was invading us or ufos were coming.

WHAT?!! Now you're trying to make me out to be a fucking UFO ZOMBIE? BWAHAHAHAHAHA The people who know me best will never fall for this, ASSWIPE!

Why do you keep calling me CPR? Is it because YOU are CPR? Fucking Creeper!

Hawk

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), August 08, 2000.

Hi Hawk,

I agree with xxx... and Grace. I can "see" the real you shining through the various posts on this thread that are not the ones signed by the troll using your old handle and addy. And it's not just the things mentioned -- there are subtleties in the way you write that I noticed (compared to details in posts of yours that I recall) which I'd rather not discuss, as they would just be more fodder for the troll.

Thanks for hanging in there and fighting this thing, Hawk. I know I would've missed ya.

-- eve (eve_rebekah@yahoo.com), August 08, 2000.

Thanks Eve! I could always count on you, babe.

Hawk

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), August 08, 2000.

Hawk, I too have been able to tell the real you for a few days now. Although I have criticized and insulted you many times (sometimes with this handle, sometimes anomously), I basically like you and think this whole thing has gone way beyond funny. Hopefully something can be done to expose the person doing this to you, and you can post under your real handle again (but please stay away from the big text).

-- Butt Nugget (catsbutt@umailme.com), August 08, 2000.

LOL! Thanks Nugg, I like your rude ass too!

And thanks to Eve too! "Hawk" wasn't me of course. I would have said "sweetheart" rather than "babe".

-- glad to know you (and.that@you.know.me), August 08, 2000.

To the REAL Hawk, I 'know' which is which...no mistaking the real you:-)....we've had too many run-ins so I do Know...

I also believe we know who is impersonating you as well.

I dont believe its just one, for 'they' are many.

xoxo, sumer

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), August 09, 2000.

(*V*),

Hang in there.

-- Debra (Thisis@it.com), August 09, 2000.