Cheney is a Dick

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While working the big Bush he opposed gays in the military even though his daughter is a dyke. Now all of a sudden he changed his mind in order to get elected and an opportunity to get some more Bush. He's an extremely conservative power-hungry crooked Dick.

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), July 30, 2000

Answers

Hawk--

I'm curious. You are an extreme doomer, prone to view the world as a tangle of conspiracies. As such, I am not surprised to find you anti-Bush. But I would be surprised to find you pro-Gore. In your ideal world, who would you want to be President?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 30, 2000.


I'm NOT an extreme doomer. A realist and an optimist.

1. Harry Browne

2. Ralph Nader

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), July 30, 2000.


Suspicions confirmed!!

-- Ra (tion@l.1), July 30, 2000.

Lars:

How did you get from A to B in your logic there? I'm the pollyanna to beat all pollyannas, and *I*'m anti-Bush. I'm not pro-Gore, but I don't want government snooping into my sex-life or telling me how to raise my kids, and I'm REALLY annoyed at how the GOP thinks it's okay to do this to Democrats without looking in the mirror and seeing the hypocrisy of it all.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), July 30, 2000.


Anita--

Good grief, all I did was ask the Hawk who he favored for President.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 31, 2000.



Hawk--

Sorry if I have misunderstood you. Am I hallucinating or didn't you recently do a thread on a looming population crash. Sounded doomerish to me. Where is your optimism in predicting the world's population will crash from 6 billion to one billion?

Either Browne or Nader are acceptable to you? One is a Libertarian and one is a crypto-Socialist. Politically, the only thing they have in common is that neither is part of the Establishment.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 31, 2000.


Lars:

You PREFACED the question with: "I'm curious. You are an extreme doomer, prone to view the world as a tangle of conspiracies. As such, I am not surprised to find you anti-Bush. But I would be surprised to find you pro-Gore. In your ideal world, who would you want to be President?"

The part that indicates that extreme doomers, in your mind, wouldn't be fascinated by Bush caught my attention.

Hawk's response seemed to indicate that he missed the concept of in your ideal world. In MY IDEAL world, I would throw aside ALL the current candidates, but I haven't yet given thought to replacements.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), July 31, 2000.


Anita---

You're not up on the conspiracy mindset. George Herbert Walker Bush actually used the expression "New World Order" in a speech. This puts him in bed with other internationalist Republicans and trilateralists like Nelson Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. The Bushes pretend to be Texans but they are really Eastern bluebloods. W. went to Yale.

Similarly, Gore pretends to be a good ole Tennessee boy but he was raised in Washington DC and went to Harvard.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 31, 2000.


Lars,

I think my post about the population reduction was realistic, not conspiratorial. I called it my ultimate doomer prediction with tongue in cheek because I know how the Creeper and Andy Gay type polyannas will react to it. Actually, as I explained on my recession thread, I am an eternal optimist. I believe there are good aspects to ANY event or situation, even the population dying off. Think about it.

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), July 31, 2000.


Hawk--

I think you are right, there COULD be some good aspects to a population decline. It all depends on how fast the decline occurs, which segments of the population are are clobbered and what kind of society we seek. I don't think a small population could sustain a hi-tech society.

Personally, I am a great believer in optimums. Considering everything, at any given time, depending upon how you weight the variables, there is an optimum population. If that optimum is one billion, are you ready for you and yours to be part of the 5 in 6 that go gentle into that good night? I'm not.

BTW, you do realize that Harry Browne was an optimist on y2k?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 31, 2000.



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