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One of the great threads. In the tradition of "Hail,Hail the Gangs All Here....".
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001N20
Excellent summary...Still think Lord is credible?
-- CD (not@here.com), September 08, 1999.
CD, you're kidding, right?This bit:
"Jim Lord's blockbuster was a fraud from the get-go. The proof is contained in this short but telling paragraph:
As a precaution, I have registered my Internet domain name-- JimLord.to--in Tonga, an island nation in the South Pacific. I have also hidden away several copies of the Navy Department documentation and my Internet files in safe keeping in several states. Friends are standing by to keep this information in the public eye. Just in case."
So, the author of this "essay" against Lord dismisses the CONTENTS of the Navy report (which was acknowledged to be correct by Koskinen) based upon WHERE Lord's website was located..???
Puuuuuuuhleeeeeease!
That entire "essay" on Poole's site is COMPLETE bullsh*t. I'll believe Jim Lord (and even John Koskin'em!) LONG before I'll believe "Steven M. Poole, CET"
-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), September 08, 1999.
The credibility of anyone that uses a "CET" after their name, as if being an electronics technician was some sort of brain surgeon, is in my opinion, laughable.
-- a (a@a.a), September 08, 1999.
Jim Lord has no "character" to assinate.Ironic that those who call Poole a smearmonger are smearing him themselves. You doom idiots are laughable (that WOULD be a smear, except it is true!)
You clueless morons need to understand that it is not smearing when you tell the TRUTH about someone. Jim Lord was exposed as a fear-mongering extremist. That is a FACT. Irrefutable. Sadly he is also stupid (let me explain).
Instead of catching a clue when the NYTimes smashed his house of fear cards, the poor dense fool claims "he must have hit a nerve".
Dense. That is the only word to explain it that I can think of.
Dense.
Remember in just a few months, you ALL will need to put the pressure on the Lords, Hyatts, Cowles, Yourdons and Norths of the world and start asking the hard questions; "why where your predictions so wrong?" "If you had such good insider info, why didn't things happen like you said they would in your $79.95 information package special?"
Or the REALLY tuff Question...
"I want my money back. How come you don't send it?"
-- U must have (character@2.begin.with), September 08, 1999.
No irony here. Poole is a lying smearmonger. He continually misrepresents what other people maintain. He has done it to me, so I know. He has done it to Roleigh Martin. His attempted hatchet job on Drew Parkhill on this forum was half-witted and lame-brained. But it was still a smear job.If you don't like it when I tell the truth, get some guts and post with your real name instead of hiding like a coward.
-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), September 08, 1999.
Dennis:Koskinen admitted ONLY that such a document was available. He did NOT admit to the correctness of the information therein.
-- Anita (spoonera@msn.com), September 08, 1999.
Lane Core,Since you think Poole is a lying smearmonger, why don't you point out to everyone where exactly Poole has lied?
-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), September 08, 1999.
Just go to his website. His lies are obvious.
-- (its@coming.soon), September 08, 1999.
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch- msg.tcl?msg_id=0012v9Poole deliberately and knowingly misrepresented my position. I don't know what you call that, Buddy, but I call that lying.
-- Lane Core Jr. (elcore@sgi.net), September 08, 1999.
Anita, you said:Koskinen admitted ONLY that such a document was available. He did NOT admit to the correctness of the information therein.
That is not correct. Kosky DID validate the "correctness" of the data, BUT he then said it was "just a worst case assessment..." or some such drivel. This is on-the-record.
-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), September 08, 1999.
-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), July 18, 2000
All followed nicely by :
Why are we wasting time on that moron Poole? I had hoped to never see his name on this forum again. He still holds the asshole of the year award. Enough said.Focus people, focus. Time is short.
Tick... Tock... <:00=
-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), September 08, 1999.
People,GET WITH THE PROGRAM. Poole DID NOT WRITE THIS.
If you visit the link you will notice the authors name.
-- (get@with.it), September 08, 1999.
-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), July 18, 2000.
Geesh Bruce, history can be a bitch aye? Well, I still admire you for staying in the ring.
-- Ra (tion@l.1), July 18, 2000.
Except that THE sysman doesn't exactly fall into the category of "I coulda been a contenda.......". Punch Drunk or not.
-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), July 18, 2000.
Rational1,
Ha!
No need for sysyman to apologise there that I can see - no sir. He was justified in lying about Poole, and Y2k, and his certainty that bad things were going to happen so spend money you don't have and jeopardise relationships and ultimately harm your families - Bruce has 30+ years experience!
Tick Tock!
Is it Y2k yet?
Vindicated and Amused Regards,
Andy Ray
-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 18, 2000.
Ra,Thanks. Stephen and I used to argue well into many AM's over Y2K. It was pretty mild, a difference of opinion, with an occasional jab at each other. It was only after he posted his now famous hoax, that it got personal.
But even after all of the "bad vibes" between us, we have managed to make up. Too bad that some people can't let go of Y2K. Some people, like:
Andy,
Please tell me where I am lying about Stephen. He has admitted to posting the hoax. Come on Andy, explain yourself, for once. Don't ignore it Andy, like you do everything else. Show me Andy. Maybe you can find, in that great mind of yours, more than a one line answer, but I doubt it.
Or shut the hell up!
<:)=
-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), July 18, 2000.
Hello again Bruce..And Andy me man, how the hell are you?I had a two-day fishing trip go South on me this morning when one of our diesels developed some serious problems. Oh well, shift happens.
Bruce, I do appreciate your civil response but please dont mistake my comments as meaning your involvement in matters Y2K should be ignored altogether. You spent countless hours in hundreds of posts establishing yourself as a Y2K expert and a TB2000 forum personality, prior to rollover. Be honest now, you enjoyed this status while it lasted but oooops, at the strike of midnight the gold-plated carriage turned into a rotten pumpkin. Your celebrity did not disappear it just took on a new identity, one which you must be willing to endure if you continue to live in this very small community.
Andy is performing a valuable service as historian, reminding us how this all went down and hopefully providing some entertainment as well. I know I enjoy reading these old postsbeats the hell out of the lunatic ramblings of Al-d. You wanted to be a star and so you are. Live with it and go with the flow.
-- Ra (tion@l.1), July 18, 2000.
Why are we wasting time on that moron Poole?
Sysyman,
You called Poole a "moron." Poole was/is not a moron. He was more correct about Y2k than you - a lot more correct.
Before you get your high-school educated knickers in a twist, Sysyman, I realise that he committed the "Sysyman unpardonable sin" of posting a hoax - toying with you and your (now) historically- proven incorrect cohorts.
Should he apologise? Or should you?
As for "shut[ting] the hell up," no. I refuse. Regarding your whining about "making up with CPR," I hope he doesn't lower his standards enough to become associated with a memetic doomer, but that is really CPR's business. As for "not wishing to make up with me," I don't associate with people of your demonstrated low calibre, Sysyman. In case you apply the same "logic" and "experience" to the former statement that you applied to all the excellent I and others made about why Y2k would turn out as it did, that was an insult, idiot.
Tick Tock!
Is it Y2k yet?
Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray
-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 18, 2000.
-- off (off@off.off), July 18, 2000.