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What is the male equivalent of cunt?

-- tities (itdoesn'tmatter@crapgathers.com), July 13, 2000

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How dirty can you be and get your point listened too ,and still be gross?

-- tities (itdoesn'tmatter@CRAP!.com), July 13, 2000.

"prick" is so lightweight these days. Ladies I work with tell me "rat bastard" is a favorite. No particular sexuality to it but hell they're Kevin Spacey fans.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), July 13, 2000.

festering chancre?

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), July 13, 2000.

Dickhead?

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), July 13, 2000.

The other thread ended with prick=bitch which is cool as they are both real words.

As for the equivalent derogatory term...well how about knob? Sounds good when it's sneered and look at the implication for length.

My opinion only of course but I think the reason th C word is such a turn-on err,, no-no is that it is so primal (ie. grunt) and this is a little *blunt* for the majority of females. If we all spoke latin this would be less of an issue I suppose.... consider the words pump and vulva. :)

-- Will (righthere@home.now), July 13, 2000.



Cin, two words, not the same impact. I wish!

Capan, A praise? Pussyhead?

What is equal to CUNT?

-- tities are cute (itdoesn'tmatter@crapclumps.com), July 13, 2000.


Prick and bitch and knob are all real words. However CUNT is dirty.

F.U., has always been dirty too. Why?

F. me, is a way to laugh at ourselves.

As a receptacle, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

-- Tits (itdoesn'tmatter@poopoo.com), July 13, 2000.


I always chose to laugh!

A dispensable attitude sucks!

-- tits (itdoesn'tmatter@rabbitballs.com), July 13, 2000.


I could not come up with any male equivalent to rival cunt. Then I did a search and found this... pretty interesting. Have thought about this before but never pinned it down so well.

Cunt And Linguistic Misogyny.

The status and deployment of cunt as the "worst name anyone can be called" (Greer, 1971b) and "the most powerful negative word the ultimate one syllable covert verbal weapon" (Musico, 1998) serves to reinforce the tradition of cultural patriarchy: "I think the use of cunt as the worst swear word that anyone can think of says a great deal about misogyny in our society, and I think it reveals fear, disgust, and also [a] denial of female sexuality" (Jane Mills in Richardson, 1994).

julia penelope [sic] notes the traditional childhood mantra "Sticks and stones / May brake my bones / But words can never hurt me" and points out that, in fact, words do hurt us. Specifically, she demonstrates that when one man insults another, at the root of the insult is an insult to women: "[words] used by men to insult other men, motherfucker, son of a bitch, bastard, sissy, and cunt insult men because theyre female words" (1990:xiii). Motherfucker implies that a man has an incestuous relationship, yet it also by proxy insults his mother herself, as she is also implicated in the act. Bastard implies that a mans mother has been promiscuous. Sissy is an insult to a man because it suggests that he behaves in a feminine way. Son of a bitch is, in one sense, the most misogynistic of these examples, as its male insult relies directly upon the derogatorial comment directed towards the mother.

http://membe rs.tripod.co.uk/mathunt/patriarchy.htm (it was written by a man BTW)

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), July 13, 2000.


I kmow Debbie,

They have built ships that can go into space and yet they still are so mad at us?

-- Just tits (itdoesn'tmatter@movement.com), July 13, 2000.



KNOW! Debbie!

Should proof read around here or be crucified.

Knowing is the topic, lynching is negotiable.

spelling, grammer? Help!

-- milk (itdoesn'tmatter@spelling.com), July 13, 2000.


Language, being passed down to us, reflects its origins as well as how we're using it now. Still, this usage must reflect undercurrents of present-day consciousness to some degree, or else the language would have changed more than it has IMO. (Interesting to ponder... to what extent the language shapes the consciousness, and vice versa?... entire books are dedicated to such questions.)

"However, "using cunt as an insult, is not a consciously misogynistic act for many men. When cunt is used to express contempt, anger, frustration, or pain, the speaker has no time to consider the socio-cultural implications of the term before using it."

....from the same essay ... but has he visited this forum yet? ;^)

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), July 13, 2000.


what I meant was has he visited that one certain thread, (which I can no longer find). (must think before writing)

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), July 13, 2000.

Hawk has some serious problems. Someone who writes those kinds of attacks on other people probably had a rough childhood. He suffers because his mother didn't breast feed him, his wife left him for a REAl man, his only relationship with women comes from prostitutes who need to be paid highly to be with him because he is so disgusting. He has bottled up rage against women because they find him repulsive. Poor guy, he's so misunderstood.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), July 13, 2000.

Maria,

If you reverse your statement to your relationship with men, it looks like you just described yourself to a tee. You shouldn't go around calling men idiots just because you can't always win your argument.

-- lurker (just @ an. observation), July 13, 2000.



No one has had a perfect life, lurker. That would probably decribe many people. So what. What matters is how you deal with it. Viciously attacking others because they don't see things your way is just NOT dealing with it well. There is no excuse for the way hawk acts, other than the fact that he is psychotic and dangerous. Unchecked, it's only a matter of time before he snaps and starts hiding bodies.

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), July 13, 2000.

Unchecked, it's only a matter of time before he snaps and starts hiding bodies.

The problem with hiding bodies is that they keep running away. Usually it's more effective if you kill them first.

-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), July 13, 2000.


Ladies,

You have to keep it all in perspective. My perspective is that Hawk is an immature, dickhead, jerk. He/she? exhibits extremely insecure personality traits. This is probably from his mother or father (if he/she? knew who his/her? father was) not "spanking" him/her? enough for bad behavior or instilling a basic working concept of manners and rudeness.

You will note that I include the pronouns She/her/etc. This is because my theory is that Hawk is the male manifestation of the Lady Logic persona. As you might recall her behavior and abuse of women on this forum has been somewhat similar.

I believe that all of you have the respect and appreciation of a large majority of the male posters on this forum.

-- Monkey Spanker (monkeyspanker0@angelfire.com), July 13, 2000.


I have a somewhat related question. The word "misogynist" means woman-hater. Is there an equivalent word that means man-hater? I don't think so. There should be. The closest I know is "misanthrope" and that means a person-hater, not a man-hater.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 14, 2000.

Capn: you are too funny!!!! :-0 havent heard that in awhile although during this latest crisis i did sirname the landlord 'Mr. dick' and now our entire family refers to him in same!!!!!

This BTW, is a 'different' sort of thread

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), July 14, 2000.


Lars,

The word is "misandronist", you'll find it ~10 pages after the word "heterophobe". :-)

It doesn't matter,

Most males are pretty proud of their anatomy, regardless of what it is. If you want something of equal venom, try insulting what they hold dear such as their intelligence, manhood, sexuality, etc.

Helpfully,

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), July 14, 2000.


Frank--

Thanks, that is interesting. And "misandry" is the word just before "misanthrope" in my dictionary. I never even noticed it. Misandry is defined as "hatred of men [rare]". Of course it is rare. Men are so wonderful (he said heterosexually).

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 15, 2000.


Lars,

Oops, I'm glad there actually was one. I was just kind of making it up, & thought that by putting in "heterophobe" that would be (more) clear.

The "heterophobe" came from seeing some conservative and a homosexual activist on T.V. The homosexual said, "You're a homophobe!", to which the conservative replied, "Oh yeah, well you're a heterophobe!". The homosexual's response was "There's NO SUCH WORD as heterophobe", so I figured there wasn't.

Probably too much information,

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), July 15, 2000.


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