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from OK, just how harmful was preparation anyway:

My marriage of 13 yrs ended due to arguments about the severity of y2k. Some here have suggested that a breakup was likely, and that problems existed in the relationship already. To them I say No shit, Sherlock. Who here has a perfect marriage?

The truth is if I hadnt listened to people here, I would still be married. No one tried to talk me out of preparing. All i read was how bad it was going to be. I thought I was protecting my famly from starving, my husband didn;t think it was going to be bad. We argued and split. He found someone else more "sane" in his words.

I didn;t know about computers. I lost everything, and its because people lied to me.

-- anonymous (, June 28, 2000.

Vindicated (though Saddened) Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (, July 12, 2000


I am sorry for your troubles.

You don't say how extensive your preps where? Did you husband divorce you because you bought a 50 pound bag of rice or because you sunk big money into a gennie or a new well or a bomb shelter? . Most likely the dipshit found the excuse he was looking for to hi- tail it out of the marriage.

You are ultimately repsonsible for your own actions no matter what the influence of others. Blaming others is cowardly and won't allow you to move on and restore happiness to your life.

-- I blame everyone but me! (Responsibility@your.doorstep), July 12, 2000.

Andy, my friend, I must vehemently disagree with you. This woman is NOT a victim; one of the major problems facing human beings in all areas of life is in the taking of responsibility for ones own actions. This woman is a grown adult and is totally, TOTALLY responsible for own choices. To blame others for actions willingly undertaken is to completely reneg on the responsibility of being an adult.

I do not have a degree in computer science; I do not know much about computers at all-but I did my research, and came to a much different conclusion when all the "trigger" dates produced nothing even approaching catastrophic.

People who succumbed to FUD are absolutely not victims; they chose to focus only on the fear-mongering-and the fear mongerers are NOT to blame. Geesh. This woman needs to grow up and stop blaming-If she chooses to continue playing the blame game she will miss an opportunity for growth-she will never know why her marriage failed and how to have a successful relationship. Blaming behavior is for children.

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), July 12, 2000.

Good post AR. I saw several tragedys like this myself. That's why a duck and cover of the guilty is so deploreable. Those that were assured we're all gonna die pre-2k, now raise the battle cry-- "well no one knew for sure. But aren't you glad you have those preps!". LOL

There were several women that thought their husbands were spineless, because they just didn't GI. It's one thing to want to protect your family. It's another to isolate yourself from ppl in the RW, in favor of a screen name that goads them on.

The danger of giving/receiving advice on the net= you are only hearing one side of the story. You never know what lives you might be destroying by your arrogance. The real world has checks and balances -- the net has few.

-- (, July 12, 2000.

Of course there exists the possibility that this post is a fake and that "anonymous" never really broke up her 13 year marriage. Nevertheless, I must agree with the sentiment that she is not a victim and should take responsibility for her critical thinking skills or lack thereof.

Her statement that No one tried to talk me out of preparing. is clearly false. Her husband obviously tried to talk her out of it. It was her choice to listen to unnamed sources on the internet rather than the man she's been married to for 13 years. That in itself indicates some poor judgement on her part. Her husband is probably better off now at this point.

Perhaps, if she gets married again, she can use this as a learning experience.

-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), July 12, 2000.

Tough titty sister. How freakin bright can you be. Did you hear there's a comet headed our way? Better get busy preparing.

-- oh please (, July 12, 2000.

"""Most likely the dipshit found the excuse he was looking for to hi- tail it out of the marriage."""

I have to agree here. And WOW, he's already founds someone else more sane. Wonder how how long he's been planning that.

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), July 12, 2000.

p.s. How do those marriage vows go again? For better, for worse. 'til death do us part. Call me old fashioned, but I believe marriage should be forever.

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), July 12, 2000.

From WHOM does she deserve an apology, in your opinion, Andy?

I didn't see you here when the forum first began to engage in the threads that Bill Schenker [I never CAN remember how to spell that man's name] started. His wife of something like 25 years left him. Of course he hadn't BECOME a doomer due to Y2k. He'd been a doomer all his life. Like Gary North, this was simply the latest "doom theory" to be pulled from his "bag of doom." HE knew it, and SHE knew it.

He found another wife soon enough, and she "tempers" his doomer tendencies. Perhaps this woman will find a more compatible mate that will temper HER doomer tendencies, or at least not make them an issue in their relationship.

-- Anita (, July 12, 2000.

>> From WHOM does she deserve an apology, in your opinion, Andy? <<

I would like to know, too.

I propose that Andy Ray needs to apologize to this woman, because he did not write persuasively enough to deter her from her foolish course of action, in spite of the the fact that he knew it was foolish!

-- Brian McLaughlin (, July 12, 2000.

Think ol' Ed might drop her an e-mail??? : )

-- capnfun (, July 12, 2000.

Hey, if she get her baggy ass up from in front of that damned computer long enough to cook some supper and maybe change the sheets the old man would probably still be around.

-- Nikoli Krushev (, July 12, 2000.

A person who would leave for a reason like that, is a person who wanted to leave anyway.

-- Gia (, July 13, 2000.

I do not know if this particular post is accurate or not, but I do know of people who suffered adverse effects due to the pathetic memetic lies posted and promulgated by doomers on the internet.

The truth was there was never a reason to prepare for a catastrophic Y2k.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (, July 14, 2000.

If the original was a "pathetic memetic" post, AndyBoy, why do you toss it out again if you had the slightest inkling it was false in the first place? Spreading some pathetic memetic lies of your own to make your (assumed) point? Tsk, tsk. I expected a little better from you, being a hot-shot researcher and archiver in search of the truth.

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), July 14, 2000.

I'm Here,

I believe it is true. I also believe it is representative of many others who have not posted here, but who were similarly victimised.

Are you still a doomer, I'm here? Still defending your failed little meme? (I must stop laughing shile I type...)

Perhaps something dismal will occur for you to cheer about, or maybe even someone will predict the end of civilisation yet again!

Vindicated and Amused Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (, July 14, 2000.

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