Hi Lars, your joke the other day caused me to wonder; since you referred to the Rabbi as having a long history and ultimate authority, which set of instructions is this particular Rabbi following; the Torah, which is a forerunner of the "old testament", which includes the ten commandments, or the Talmud, which includes instructions on the proper age (3, and youmger) to have sex with children, and the total domination of the goyim?

BTW, before the brainwashed, knee jerk accusations start to fly, I'll say that I'm quite alright with the former, but the latter would be criminal in a civilized society, obviously.

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), July 03, 2000

Answers

Care to provide a link to the sex instructions, KoFE? Or should we break out our personal copies of the Talmud and do the footwork ourselves?

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), July 03, 2000.

My mistake. There aren't any "instructions" for the sex. Just permission.

Yebhamoth 11b: "sexual interourse with a little girl is permitted till three years of age"

Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering goyim is like killing a wild animal"

Abodah zara 26b: " Even the best of the gentiles should be killed" The list goes on.... This is what I have read about and seen documented evidence for. Is there a poster here that can confirm or dispute this?

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), July 03, 2000.

SATAN WORKS IN >>RELIGION!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), July 03, 2000.

It was a joke for heaven's sake. A poor joke, as you said at the time. Someone sent it to me in an email. I thought it was vaguely funny--I tend to like jokes that are based on ethnic stereotypes. Maybe I'll post a few Norwegian ones. (typically they are about culturally deprived upper-midwesterners). At the time I posted it, the forum was tanking due to some of cpr's stuff and the Any Ray barrage. I thought we could use a break, any break. I apologize to anyone who was offended. Bingo were you offended?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), July 03, 2000.

No Lars. I'd have let you know. Thanks for asking.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), July 03, 2000.

Hmmmm....

I've been away a while and I see that things seem to be taking a more sinister swing as we head for the dog days of summer.

KoFE, where exactly did you find those Talmud quotes?

Here's where I found exact copies of your quotes -

http://www.nidlink.com/~aryanvic/anthrax.html

This type of anti-Semitic crap has been floating around for decades. Every time I think we've gotten past this it crops up again.

You're one sick guy, KoFE

-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), July 03, 2000.

To all who were offended and were quick to judge me; you are mistaken, and I am not trying to "spread hate"as the slogan goes. I asked a question, and then I asked a second question. No one here has said these quotes don't exist, so I take it that so far,no one here knows if they do or not.

I have seen evidence that they do, but I am not claiming that it is true. Personally, I would like to know, and put it to rest, once and for all.

Sorry if I have brought up the "unmentionable". We don't seem to have a problem bringing up Nazi Germany's atrocities, but certain groups are off limits. Why is that?

Interesting.......

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), July 03, 2000.

Jim Cooke, you call me sick, and then post an Aryan Nations website. Good answer.

Lars, I wasn't trying to get personal, just asking.

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), July 03, 2000.

My my isn't religion wonderful. It just brings out all the best in everyone. Now isn't that sweet.

The greatest evil always masquerades as the greatest good.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), July 03, 2000.

KoFE:

I haven't read the Talmud since I read the Bible and the Koran, but perhaps you can get some answers from this site.

It seems this whole thing started when someone wrote an internet article entitled "The Talmud Exposed." The reason Jim referenced the Aryan nation was because these references are typically only found on internet sites of folks who want to make the Jewish faith look bad. I don't think he meant to imply anything about you personally, but suggest that you might consider the source.

The link above references all the claims made in "The Talmud Exposed". If you're only interested in those you mentioned, you can scroll through the others.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), July 03, 2000.

There you go KoFE. Anita did the footwork for us both. The site doesn't provide exhaustive explanations but it is a good, easy to understand place to start.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), July 03, 2000.

Anita, thanks for the summary. KoFE, the questions I asked is where did you get those quotes? I've never seen them anywhere except the type of web site that I referenced. These have been floating around for years among the Jewish conspiracy types and I've never seen them in a legitimate forum. They have been throughly discredited as any search of the web would have shown.

So, once again, KoFE, where did you find those quotes?

-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), July 03, 2000.

I've seen them referenced in a film of the Encyclipedia Judaica as it is crossed referenced the Babylonian Talmud by a biblical scholar. It claims that even most Jews don't know exactly what the Talmud teaches, but are led to believe it is completely correct and above reproach, just as some of the posters here believe.

I was raised in a "Christian" environment,even went to church, etc., but personally, I am beginning to think that all religions are nothing more than invented political movements, and we all know how politicians lie.

If you have been emotionally conditioned to defend "victims" all of your life, you would find doing anything else uncomfortable.

Anita, thanks for the fair response.

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), July 04, 2000.