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What They Said with Dread
by Declan McCullagh

8:55 a.m. Jan. 4, 2000 PST

PLAGUE: "Plague will follow shortly. Most of the inhabitants of the northern cities will die within a matter of a few weeks, from cold, disease, fires started in an attempt to keep warm, or random violence. This is bad enough, of course, to qualify as a disaster ranking with the Black Plague, if not the extinction of the dinosaurs."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, July 1999

WORSE THAN OTHER MODERN DISASTERS: "The Year-2000 phenomenon is clearly such a jolt, and we believe that it will be much more pervasive and serious than most of the [disasters] we've experienced in modern history."
--Ed and Jennifer Yourdon in Time Bomb 2000

EXTINCTION OF THE HUMAN RACE: "We must also prepare ourselves for the very real possibility that the outcome of this situation might well be the total extinction of the entire human race. It really could be worse than I am predicting and I really am being optimistic. First, I would like to assure you that I am not some kind of nut anxiously waiting for the end of the world...."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, November 1998

DEPRESSION IN THE UNITED STATES: "Economic slowdown... unemployment rises... interruptions in utilities... common use of heaters, cook stoves... increase in layoffs... some neighborhoods form purchasing associations... [probability of this outcome or worse] is 65 percent."
--Consultant Bruce Webster, The Y2K Survival Guide

HIDING GUNS: "[You should cache] most of your arms and supplies, while this is still possible and legal. Preferably, you should have several smaller caches known only to you and to a highly trusted backup... someone who will pass the supplies on to your family or group if anything happens to you... you need to convert most of your spare cash and paper investments into gold and/or silver coins."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, January 1998

CAN'T BUY FOOD BY JUNE 1999: "Problem is if only 1 percent of the people are preparing now and the supply chain is overburdened, adding only another 1 percent will crush it. Come May-June of '99 your chances of buying any long-term foods will be minimal. So then people will start stocking canned goods and dog food. Not guaranteed, but there is a distinct possibility that we could start seeing food shortages at the local grocery stores by July-Aug '99 as everyone starts buying ten extra cans of food a week...."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, November 1998

IT'S OVER: "The problem will not be fixed. Everyone in authority will deny that time has run out to get this fixed, right up until December 31, 1999... I'm saying that it's over. Right now. It cannot be fixed. Whatever it does, the Millennium Bug will bite us."
--Christian Reconstructionist Gary North, early 1997

GREAT DEPRESSION: "I think it is going to be very bad. In fact, the best possible case for which there is any hope is another Great Depression."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, July 1999

MARTIAL LAW: "As 1999 progresses, as the global economy continues to decline and as more and more of the early Y2K failures occur, there will be some sudden, critical failure which will trigger a social crisis... Whatever the cause, governments all over the world will seize on this as an excuse to put their plans for martial law into effect, hoping to have some kind of emergency administration in place before their existing systems are wiped out by Y2K."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, January 1998

'A VERY BAD FIRE:' "The Y2K 'fire' has not broken out yet, though we'll begin seeing the first few flames in 1999, possibly as early as January 1, 1999. But like many of my Y2K colleagues, I can already smell the smoke, and I believe, deeply and sincerely, that it's going to be a very bad fire indeed."
--Consultant Ed Yourdon, March 1998

STOCK MARKET CRASHED: "The stock market crashed and there was a run on the banks... We've been only too aware that the fractional reserve banking system was unwise and insecure... The safest place in the whole universe right now is not in the center of the securest compound money can buy. It is in the center of God's will."
--Authors Michael Hyatt and George Grant, in novel Y2K: The Day the World Shut Down

NEW YORK WILL RESEMBLE BEIRUT: "I recently sold our New York City apartment and bought a house in a small town in New Mexico... I've often joked that I expect New York to resemble Beirut if even a subset of the Y2K infrastructure problems actually materialize -- but it's really not a joke... Y2K is sufficiently worrisome, in my opinion, that I'll make sure my family isn't there when the clock rolls over to Jan 1, 2000."
--Consultant Ed Yourdon, July 1998

COMPLETE COLLAPSE: "We're looking at a complete collapse of the government's systems and partial collapse (50 percent) of private industry's computer systems. Analogous to the dissociation of the former Soviet Union. 10-20 percent of the military will resign when they aren't paid for months. Rioting, looting, and burning in the usual places... DJI down 5000 points in 6 months, hyper inflation for a couple years...."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, republished by Gary North, March 1998

NIGHTMARE: "At 12 midnight on January 1, 2000... most of the world's mainframe computers will either shut down or begin spewing out bad data. Most of the world's desktop computers will also start spewing out bad data. Tens of millions -- possibly hundreds of millions -- of pre-programmed computer chips will begin to shut down the systems they automatically control. This will create a nightmare for every area of life, in every region of the industrialized world."
--Christian Reconstructionist Gary North, early 1997

A DECADE OF DEPRESSION: "We're going to suffer a year of technological disruptions, followed by a decade of depression... We're likely to be living in an environment much like the Third World countries some of us have visited, where nothing works particularly well."
--Consultant Ed Yourdon, February 1999

CERTAIN SNAFUS: "The systems will break, this is a certainty. It is uncertain whether the consequence is rioting, looting. Mad Max and Escape from New York or Little House on the Prairie."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, November 1998

SCARED WITLESS: "I have been studying Y2K in every way possible to me since October of 1997. On a daily basis. How many hours? I don't want to know. In that time I have become convinced that we are going to get blasted. Big time blasted. Infomagic blasted. I have learned enough to get real damn scared, scared motionless like a rabbit facing a snake."
--Consultant Cory Hamasaki's newsletter, November 1998

CONSULTANTS OUT OF WORK: "My day-to-day work will suffer an increasing number of interruptions, glitches, delays, inconveniences, and disruptions during the second half of 1999; and I'm expecting that they'll be sufficiently pervasive after January 1, 2000 that my income will drop to zero during the first six months of the new year."
--Consultant Ed Yourdon, February 1999,1283,33419,00.html

-- cpr (, June 21, 2000


Oh My God, get over it.

-- kritter (, June 21, 2000.

SCARED WITLESS: "I have been studying Y2K in every way possible to me since October of 1997. On a daily basis. How many hours? I don't want to know.

Interesting. Consumed. Not alot of room for rational analysis of the "facts". Many gurus validated their theories, based on the hours they spent reviewing other overworked -- stressed out so-called experts consumed theories.

My my my -- hear it enough times and it becomes fact -- in their minds anyway.

-- (, June 21, 2000.

cpr,Kritter, and doomer, I have per chance in my possession, a paper print out of a military message that was sent April 21, 1999 to stock pile cash in very secured vaults, in anticipation of bank runs. I did not dream this shit up, this bed was on fire before I laid down on it. Now, I can only slowly try to lower the internal heat, that was fueled by so many, who knew nothing. And I will CALL them, everyone, in the future. Especially the MID/programming morons. I suggest, you do the same.

-- My Story (, June 22, 2000.

"Statements of the Experts" from the Russ Kelly site, and what their reasoning was


-- Why they thought (what@they.did), June 23, 2000.

I especially like that last quote: " income will drop to zero" HA! The guy's still bringing in the bucks. He makes out either way. I wonder if his family spent the new year in New Mexico or New York, where they wanted to stay.

-- Maria (, June 23, 2000.

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