Although he was the hardest working of the castaways, good ole B.B. bought the farm on the tribe's first vote. To wash your shirt in the last of the drinking water while the lagoon is 50 feet away is the height of arrogance. All people placed in a situation of leadership could learn so much from this series ! Chalk another one up to foolish pride. I can imagine the whole world as I view this series, the whole earth wrapped up in 16 individuals. B.B. believed he could do anything he wanted and spend his days working and his free time dogging the rest of the tribe. The world's judgement was overwhelming and swift---"off with his head" ! and "Thus it is with Tyrants" The tribe will suffer from his absence but it is better to suffer physical loss than to endure mental anquish.

-- Joel Rosen (Joel681@webtv.net), June 09, 2000

Answers

Hi, Joel--hate to sound dumb, but what are you talking about? Is is a TV show? You kinda left me behind, there. We don't have a TV, just one hooked up to a VCR that is very seldom used.

-- Leann Banta (thelionandlamb@hotmail.com), June 09, 2000.

Yes, Leann It is a 8 part series involving people marooned in Borneo. The last to survive gets a cool million in cash. Each week the tribes vote one person off the island. You must have social skills as well as survival skills--I find it very interesting. My pickto win it all is --Joel, a physical trainer. I'm prejudiced by his name.

-- Joel Rosen (Joel681@webtv.net), June 09, 2000.

Joel: My vote to survive goes to Gretchen. She has skills and also deals well with the others. There is a contest on the internet to choose who you think will be voted off each week, and at the end, the folks with the most correct answers will be in the pot and one will be picked to win a new car. Not sure I would have been able to chomp down one of those YUKKY grubs this last week. UGH! Jan

-- Jan B (Janice12@aol.com), June 09, 2000.

I vote for Ramona to leave-don't like her attitude. I think B.B. will be missed for his knowledge, but it seemed like he wanted to leave, even though I didn't really think he did.-does that make sense? I didn't see the first show. How did they get chosen? How did they prepare? There seems to be an awful lot of arguing. Goes with the territory, I guess.

-- Cindy (atilrthehony_1@yahoo.com), June 10, 2000.

Cindy: There is a website, http://cbs.com/network/tvshows/mini/survivor/challenge/index.shtml which is all about the survivor show, and also has a contest where you can pick the person you think will be kicked off each week. There is also a profile of each team member, what they took for luxury item, their profession, etc. Interesting if you are into the show. I would love to have been one of the ones going....I think! Jan

-- Jan in Colorado (Janice12@aol.com), June 10, 2000.

Joel, I really think Romona being so sickly, though oddly enough she didn't puke after eating the bug!!! would have been the first to go had BB not started in whinning about wanting to go! I vote for Susan, the white gal with the turban in the other tribe! She is a fighter and doesn't take ---- from those other two girls :) My kind of gal! I could have just died with the friendship between the gay guy and Rudy! And what Rudy said! Our whole family including nephew is watching this and we have laughed so hard at how stupid they are. Eat the crabs! Skin the snakes and eat them! Lizards! No, they mope around talking about eating rats! RATS! Building a shelter on the beach? Course my family says I could make it there, but I, like BB would be the first one kicked off!! Could you have ate the mealworm? Would you have ate it whole or chewed it up? Vicki

-- Vicki McGaugh (vickilonesomedoe@hotmail.com), June 11, 2000.

Swallowed it whole and never would have given it a second thought.

-- Joel Rosen (Joel681@webtv.net), June 11, 2000.

I entered the contest to get on the island, and out of 6700 people, I made it down to the 64 cut-off point. That's where my medical history eliminated me. Had I made it to the island I'm sure I could have worked with B.B., my father-in-law makes him look passive, but his washing his shirt with my drinking water would have been the end of him. My vote is for Susan.

-- Mark Windbiel (mwindbiel@hotmail.com), June 12, 2000.

I think that the premise of this show is neat. Is there any way that we can get Bill and Hillary Clinton and Al and Tipper Gore on a version of this show where they kill and eat the rejects?

-- John and Pat James (jjames@n-jcenter.com), June 13, 2000.

I would have thrown Ramona off at the first chance. Just a waste of space, lays around while others wait on her. Also, BB knew a lot but it was as if he said he was better than everyone else when he washed his shirt in the drinking water. And when they tried to talk to him about it, he got all defensive and couldn't figure out what the big deal was. I like Rudy, although he's rough, he doesn't pretend to be someone he isn't. And he's a hard worker. And I would have eaten that worm without hesitation for a million bucks, ya betcha!

-- Grits in Fl (rebelfarm@yahoo.com), June 15, 2000.

Finally saw an episode and think Dirk will be next to go. I think Susan and Richard will make it for a while. How about those speared rays! Stacey was a whiner, had to go. Seems like it must be hard not trusting anyone to have anything but their own gain in mind.

-- Anne (HT@HM.com), June 15, 2000.

I think the whole idea behind these programs is pretty sorry. They are pitting these people against one another for the love of money -- in a real survival situation, they would need to work together as a team. What do you think children are going to learn from watching all this? And since we are on the subject of entertainment (???) have any of you ever considered the similarities between popular television/movies/video games, etc. and the Roman Coliseum back a couple thousand years ago -- hurting and killing people for the entertainment of the "masses", to keep them happy and prevent riots and rebellion because too many of them didn't have enough real work to do to be able to feed and house themselves? Maybe we haven't come to deliberate "hurting and killing people" for entertainment, but we certainly exploit all the above we can find -- look at the so- called "real-life" programs based on medical emergencies, etc. I suppose if you enjoy this sort of thing, you may think I'm being unnecessarily harsh, but it's part of a downward trend. Last years level of thrills doesn't excite anymore, so we have to up it a notch to keep the ratings -- and the money. Where will that end?

-- Kathleen Sanderson (stonycft@worldpath.net), June 16, 2000.

I see your point, Kathleen. I tend to watch the show for the human conflicts and never remember the money. It is never about money with me. Actually I'm waiting for the show to simulate Lord of the Rings, a book. The survival is not in question as they furnish them with necessity items. This show(to me) is about humanity. The good and the bad traits we humans share. I'm afraid my curiousity of the human element ignores your concern but, point well taken !

-- Joel Rosen (Joel681@webtv.net), June 16, 2000.

I agree with Kathleen on this one. I think it's pretty exploitative. But then I think teevee is the devil's spawn anyway....or was that advertising? I get them mixed up!

-- sheepish (rborgo@gte.net), June 18, 2000.

Thank you Kathleen for airing my sentiments. The show cause my bile to rise above decent levels. When can we begin to care, help, encourage, teach, and model kindness, and hope for this life with this trash on the t.v.Who needs the Lord Of The Flies when all of t.v. exemplifies the theme anyway. What ever happened to love, peace, joy, patience, honesty, and the old fashioned value of loving your neighbor. Whey must we resort to a barbarian lifestyle because the secular society would have us believe this is the real life when it is nothing but a total sham. Now I feel better!!!!!!

-- Norma Lucas (trooper@806webtv.net), June 19, 2000.

I am not of the school that everything I watch or see, or let my kids watch or see has to be uplifting with a good moral etc. This show is just pure intertainment. I think alot of folks take like much to seriously for my taste! Anything that can get my 21, 18 and 16 year old kids together on the couch with nephew, husband and me, cheering and laughing our a---- off, can't be all that bad! :) Vicki

-- Vicki McGaugh (vickilonesomedoe@hotmail.com), June 19, 2000.

Vicki, OK, but just don't buy anything that's advertised on it! :)

-- sheepish (rborgo@gte.net), June 19, 2000.

I just want to add that I've never seen the Survivor shows -- we haven't had TV in years, because I can't stand the garbage! My daughter had to have a wisdom tooth out at the hospital a few days ago (at the hospital because she needed to be under general anesthesia) and while we were waiting for her turn, we were sort of watching the TV that was on in the room -- I finally turned it off. All I could find was soap operas, and they were sick -- and scaring Juniper, who still isn't able to understand that the things on the TV aren't "real". I have a pretty good sense of humor, but "garbage in, garbage out", you know! I never wanted my children exposed to that stuff at all, I figured they were worth more than that.

-- Kathleen Sanderson (stonycft@worldpath.net), June 19, 2000.