I'm interested in finding some new websites. I'm also interested in seeing where others like to go. I bet we can come with some better places than EY's "cool places". Got any good ones?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), June 07, 2000

Answers

For general information: refdesk.com For general spiritul: manypaths.com For movies: www.us.imdb.com dream research: lucidity.com

more later

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), June 07, 2000.

My favorite site used to be the Mother Jones Magazine's bulletin board, but it went down and didn't come back up. Anyway, I guess it hasn't, for I haven't checked lately.

I'd like to find a senior bulletine board that has retired people on it that want to talk about something besides their ailments and grandchildren. Anybody know of one? Of course most of you aren't seniors.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 07, 2000.

Here's three of many..

http://www.howstuffworks.com/index.htm http://www.ceoexpress.com/ http://216.22.218.234/index.html

-- abe (abe@home.com), June 07, 2000.

A while back someone (Hawk, I think) posted a picture from Bigbreastlovers.com. It was rather quickly deleted by OTFR, although not quick enough to keep me from grabbing it and obtaining the URL. Unfortunately, now I can't find it! How about it Hawk, can you help us out?

-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), June 07, 2000.

For fun and political satire, I enjoy Bartcop. He keeps me up-to-date on folks like Dr. Laura, Rush Limbaugh, and the political right. He's WAY out there to the left, and doesn't know the meaning of politically correct, but I find his site entertaining.

Again for politics, I enjoy reading the Realchange website. They seem to have a knack for getting the "skinny" on candidates that it would take me hours to research on my own.

Gilda: You might find something of interest at Friendly 4Seniors. I found a BBS where I could ask about type-B facilities for my mom, and got a response within 24 hours. I know that's not what YOU'RE looking for in a senior BBS, but I would think others there might fit the bill.

For humor, I enjoy Dave Barry.

Here's another that may be of interest to you, Gilda. John Ferri. Ferri discusses lots of stuff. A fellow I met on the MSNBC Political Issues Forum told me about this site. The guy that told me is 77 years old, and has a website of his own, Tangible Reality Library. He's just revamped the site and is interested in feedback regarding any errors he can't see with his own browser and monitor size.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), June 07, 2000.

Nope, wasn't me Flash. I'm more of a butt and thigh man. :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), June 07, 2000.

I like this site for lots of cool information...

Leading Edge International Research Group

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), June 07, 2000.

For answers, I have found this site to be of utmost help. Especially helpful with medical questions, in my experience. Hope the link works. I'm a newbie. If not, go to www.allexperts.com.

-- Aunt Bee (SheriffAndy@Mayberry.com), June 08, 2000.

>One more time.

-- Aunt Bee (SheriffAndy@Mayberry.com), June 08, 2000.

Shoot-too tired. Too much smoke-you got the address. Sorry.

-- Aunt Bee (SheriffAndy@Mayberry.com), June 08, 2000.

SOVERIEGNGRACE.COM

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), June 08, 2000.

For the tech / software-minded folks, my favorite site is:

http://www.freewarehome.com/

There really are some useful downloads here. I highly recommend both Rambooster (memory reclaiming software) and Scramdisk (strong encryption software).

-- aqua (aqu@fin.a), June 08, 2000.

I guess I should add that all software on freewarehome.com is FreeWare. This means no cost to you and no registration. Some (though very few) software packages are supported by commercial banners.

-- aqua (aqu@fin.a), June 08, 2000.

Abe,

Thanks for the URL to Equity Web! What an awesome research tool.

How stuff works is pretty cool to!

-- JC (*@*.*), June 08, 2000.

Yahoo's news search engine...

http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news

-- (new@news.now), June 08, 2000.

Robert Waldrop's Website:

http://www.justpeace.org/bettertimes.htm

-- (kb8um8@yahoo.com), June 08, 2000.

link

-- (link@link.link), June 08, 2000.

www.foodoo.com

www.ifilm.com

www.burymeright.com

www.spumco.com

ares.nrl.navy.mil/rtmovies.html

www.mp3.com

www.redherring.com

www.crmav.com

W

-- w0lv3r1n3 (w0lv3r1n3@yahoo.com), June 08, 2000.

www.funshack.com is good too, if you like to send emails to friends.

for music, Hawk turned me onto netradio.com (thanks again hawk, i still listen to it)

if you in a gory type of mood: rotten.com

Tis all I have to offer right now.

but thanks for the thread, gonna print it out and have me a good ol look see:-)

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 08, 2000.

Rotten.com! Grossly hilarious. LMAO.

-- (nemesis@awol.com), June 08, 2000.

Thanks for the sites Anita. They were all great, except for Friendly 4 Seniors; I got an illegal operation notice and computer shut down. Is there another address.

You're such a nice girl. Are you adoptable? I've always wanted a daughter.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 08, 2000.

Help, I'm losing it; this is my second retraction for the day--sorry Sumer, but after looking further at Rotten.com I find it gross but not hilarious. How do I retract a LMAO?

-- (nemesis@awol.com), June 08, 2000.

Nemisis: I WARNED you it was gory!!!! But my apologies I 4got to let cha know it was a lil porno as well....sorry

LMAO, is not NOT accepted... :-)

But did you see the Santa Clause one? sorry, i couldnt resist, I had my boss looking the other day, we sat there for a good 15 minutes, he had me printing the stuff out......ROFL...great boss.

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 08, 2000.

Gilda,

Will you take me? I've always wanted a mother.

-- Celia Thaxter (celiathaxter@yahoo.com), June 08, 2000.

Gilda--

Friendly4Seniors works for me. Try it again.

I am also looking to be adopted.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), June 09, 2000.

How could I turn down a daughter that lived on an island, raised flowers and wrote lovely poetry. It would help if you're computer savvy too.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 09, 2000.

Lol, Gilda. I'm afraid one feisty mother is more than I can handle. It's not been so hectic where she resides now, but there was another facility where I was being called almost constantly. I finally told mom, "Do you realize that I get more complaints about YOUR behavior than I've ever had from my three kids COMBINED?" Feel free to think of me as your younger sister. I've always wanted a sister. Of course realize that I'll then ask you questions like, "What do we do about mom NOW?"

The link works for me as well, Lars. It may simply have been coincidence?

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), June 09, 2000.

Jeeeezuz consumer, that site is sick! Aren't you the same person who use to complain about foul language? Wheew, you are twisted girl! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@hi.again), June 09, 2000.

Anita, it's ok that you don't need another mom. I now have Celia and Lars as my new children. But, you have come to the right person for, "What do we do about mom?"

My mother lived to age 95. She fell and broke her hip when she was 91 and was sent to the nursing home to recover. I brought her home after three months and a complete recovery, and it was the worst mistake I ever made. She nearly ran us crazy. In fact, back when I was single, my future husband and I met at the hospital wheeling our mothers along in wheelchairs. We married a few years later and spent the next 8 years caring for our mothers and their respective homes, which they absolutely would not leave. We would have liked for them to have gone to senior citizens housing, but "No WAY!" they said.

We ran ourselves ragged both working full time, and taking care of our house, their houses, all the lawns, and finding people to help, their doctor's appointments, etc., They both finally ended up in nursing homes. Mother was supposed to walk at all times with a walker, but wasn't allowed to because she used it as a weapon. Anyway to make a long story short, they were in separate nursing homes and both places were very good, and did all the trouble shooting for us. We were lucky about that. We loved them dearly, but I would never put my child through anything like that.

When my husband and I can no longer take care of our place, we will move to senior citizen housing. We have made our plans, and being bedridden in a nursing home is not part of them, although, my mother was mobile until the day she just simply died.

Anita, I will always be glad to talk with you about this very difficult emotional draining, and guilt producing situation. It is the worst thing I've ever had to deal with, and my sister was no help. Just know that I am thinking of you, and I know what you're going through.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 10, 2000.

Chucklin' MAO!!!!, "Wheew, you are twisted girl! :-)"

Maybe thats why why we get along so well Sumer,Ive been accused of bein' a little warped a time or two myself : )

Hawk,

Your reaction was priceless,still chucklin' hehehe.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), June 10, 2000.

Celia--it's wonderful to have a sis. Please send cookies.

Gilda--it's wonderful to have a mom. Please send money.

Gilda and Anita. My mom died 2 years ago at 87. She spent her last 3 years in a Nursing Home in a distant state. She was out of it with Altzheimers. She needed care. There was no way she could live alone. I phoned her but did not see her for the last 3 years. My brother lived closer and saw her and managed her finances. I felt guilty but I could do no more. I have thanked him many times for doing most of the work. When it became time for mom to go into the nursing home, she objected but we just made her go. Once she was there, it was like she had always been there. She did not object.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), June 10, 2000.

Gilda,

That is so nice of you to share your experience with Anita and to lend her your ear and expertise,bless you.THIS,is truly the reason I love this forum.

Now back to the party : )

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), June 10, 2000.

Some of my favorite sites?

Massive Attack John Waite.com Eric Sardinas Tour Dates Vidal Sassoon Hairdos.com Audiofind mp3 search Waco electronic museum H olocaust timeline Explorezone.com Greenweb Todays Homeowner Hometime Holistic Health KFI-AM homepage Gardenweb Geektools The most beautiful flower

How's that for overwhelmed. =)

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), June 10, 2000.

consumer, don't worry about the site being *too gross*, it is, but I don't mind. I've always had a perverse sense of humor. In fact, I had it on my favorites. After all, I liked the songs "Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road" and "My Bucket's Got a Hole in It."

I also like Dave's Dark and Scary Places, Annoy.com, Church of Euthanasia and Viewzone--these are under Bizarre sites. Under Freedoms, I have Freedom From Religion, Defend Your Privacy, Freedom Forum and Americans United. I'll skip the Recipes, Books, Bookstores and authors.

Celia, are you still on the island? Lars my dear, dear, boy--you simply must quit asking mummy for money. However, I'm going to ask Cindy Crawford to send you e-mails instead of sending the things to me. Now, isn't that nice?

Seriously Lars, in my case, I was the one who was close and did all the seeing to finances, medicine, etc., but the one who lives too far away to help out, is the one who feels the most guilt. I didn't have a choice about my mother going to a nursing home--she almost burned her house down and was having a hard time. Although I lived within seeing distance, I couldn't be with her every minute. Once my mother was in the nursing home, she liked the staff and the accomodations, but she missed home, of course.

She had tons of stuff and wouldn't part with hardly anything and we had to take care of all the get rid of things. Having learned my lesson from that, I'm already getting rid of things. In these parental care situations we all just do the best we can to muddle through and do the right thing.

capn' thanks for your kind words.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 11, 2000.

Gilda,

I'm honored and touched that you're my honorary mother. I've always admired your humanist ideals and common sense. I don't live on an island, but I do live around a lot of water. If you ever plan to visit Seattle, drop me an email and I'll treat you to tea at the Sorrento Hotel. ;^)

-- Celia Thaxter (celiathaxter@yahoo.com), June 11, 2000.

NO FAIR, I'm crying FOUL....Hawk, you picked on me when I wasnt around to DEFEND myself (beeen getting the pool ready, finally done, time to lay in the sun).....As for that site, my nephew sent it to me, my sister caught him, now HE is grounded!!!! :-)

Figured you would appreciate my hipocrisy (sp) Hawk, who luvs ya baby?

Capn: Indeed, But I warned all it was gross, but forgot the porn part oh well.

Gilda, you go gram!!!! I figured you were a 'special' wild woman.....

Sorry IF I offended anyone, should of put it on the sex site, eh?

Oh well!!!!! Made ya look!!!!

luvs, sumer

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 11, 2000.

I do live around a lot of water. If you ever plan to visit Seattle

Celia!

There is the posibility that we live next door to each other and don't even know it.

Don't those people who keep taling about summer, the pool and laying in the sun just make you want to SCREAM????

But then we don't have to worry about watering our lawns.

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), June 11, 2000.

Sumer!!!!!!!

THE pool??? How big? How many turbine jets?? If you build it they will come ; )

Moi offended?????? Never,I got a chuckle and a half outa Hawk on that one and a little porn never hurt nobody(want a link : )?

Cherri,

If you have the pool Sumer has you just might like SSSCCCRRREEEAAAMMMIIINNNGGG : ) To hell with the lawn.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), June 11, 2000.

Cherri,

Yeah, it's a crummy day, but I'm one of those weird souls that actually likes the rain. Besides, I think I got my sun quotient a month ago in Hawaii. ;^)

-- Celia Thaxter (celiathaxter@yahoo.com), June 11, 2000.

Gilda:

I didn't want to take this thread off-topic, but it seems it's gone there anyway. You said, "the one who lives too far away to help out, is the one who feels the most guilt."

Perhaps that was true in YOUR family, but I have one brother of two that is quite content to simply deny existence of his parents. When mom and dad were in two different hospitals, he said he couldn't come up. He had a list of excuses, ranging from fear of flying to his wife needing glasses. Of course when I wanted help cleaning out their house, he drove up with a trailer, took everything of worth and left me to dispose of the rest.

When dad died, he again said he couldn't come up. Normally, I'm amused by his excuses, but on this one I said, "Get your ass up here." My other brother called him as well, and he and his family DID come.

After mom had been living in one facility for a while, and I was worn out from working, taking care of the kids, and visiting her each day, I suggested that it might be a good idea to put mom in a facility closer to HIM. Afterall, he had a wife, three grown daughters, etc. and if each person visited her just once per week, we'd have five days covered. He LAUGHED.

When mom needed money, I asked my brothers to give what they could, having already given all *I* could. This brother could give nothing. He startled me when he suggested he may come and visit her now that she was in Texas and not so far from Mississippi. He hasn't visited yet ONCE. He rarely calls her, so when I have her for dinner, I call him and put her on the phone. He'll talk for hours on MY bill, always complaining about how busy they are. Busy doing what? Well, he's retired now, but his one daughter brought her son over last weekend.

"the one who lives too far away to help out, is the one who feels the most guilt." I don't believe it applies here.

I've shared with my other brother my hopes of getting mom into another type-B facility that will eliminate the need for money from my pocket when her money is gone. I also shared with him how I've kept the check stubs from her checking account because I fully expect my brother in Mississippi to accuse me of misappropriating funds. If anyone would do this in my family, it would be him.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), June 12, 2000.

Celia, I'm delighted to be your "honorary mother." I shall tell my friends about my new "daughter Celia, who lives in Seattle." BTW, I'm also one of those "weird sould that actually likes rain." MO used to get lots of rain, but in the last few years we are almost in drought conditions, and I really miss the rainy days. Thanks for the invitation to Seattle and to tea. I've always wanted to visit Oregon and Washington, but with all the animals I probably won't make it.

consumer, actually I wasn't much of a "wild woman," but I did have lots of fun in my younger days--in fact I'm still having fun, just a different kind.

I'm not a dirty old lady either, it's just that I'm not very easily offended by sex, swearing, parody, or making fun of sacred cows. I guess the only thing that really offends me is people making fun of the children of presidents or preaching a sermon on religion, or how one should behave.

Anita, I should have clarified my statement by addressing it to Lars. He told me how his brother had to take care of everything because he lived so far away, and how he thanked his brother profusely for taking care of everything.

Actually, that statement was true for Lars, but not for you, nor me. I took care of everything for years before my mother had to go to a nursing home. My sister came to see her about every three or four years and that was it. And no, she didn't come to her funeral. All I ever got from her was advice which was worthless.

I too kept all the check stubs and other documentation of what I spent of her money, plus all the personal money I spent. After mother died, I set down and wrote sis a letter pouring out everything I'd ever felt about the way she had acted during our mother's later years. It made me feel much better. If it made her suffer any guilt, I sure couldn't tell it.

Anita, I'm really sorry to say that I think you are going to have a rough road ahead, and from what you say, I don't think you can count on your brothers to help. Just do the best you can, and if you can't always be there for her, don't let it eat you up with guilt. Sometimes a person can't be in five places at once.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 13, 2000.

Gilda:

Yeah...I've known about the lack of support from my brothers for about 10 years now.

Changing the topic, I found this today that hits an area fond to your heart. On Roadside Memorials.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), June 14, 2000.

Wow Anita:

CAN I RELATE!!!!!!

My sister lived RIGHT UPSTAIRS from my mom as she was dying from cancer. Mom was poor, left 'us' a list of whom was to get 'what'.

I had promised mother I would NOT fight w/sister over anything, mom passed on, and sister who never came down to see mom (said she just couldnt handle it) CLEARED out the house in no time flat.

I did not argue, I said nothing. I was to devastated over the loss, and being a new mom all at once.

Karma? Here is the Karma portion, two weeks after my sister stole everything she was not entitled to, a thief broke into her upstairs apt and STOLE everything she took from me!

go figure. You are very WISE to be able to give 'account' on the $$$, because trust me anita, you will need to.

My fav saying is: Weddings and Funerals bring out the WORST in folks.

good luck, my heart goes out to you.

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 14, 2000.

Celia, if you ever get to the Lake of the Ozarks, I would love to have you for a guest--that is, if you aren't allergic to cats. This is a beautiful area, and I would love to show you around, and go out for great luches and dinners. Come soon before it's ruined with condos, strip malls, and developers.

Anita, thanks for the memorial link. I still detest those things. What the hell are cemetaries for????

consumer, truer words were never spoken than "Weddings and Funerals bring out the WORST in folks."

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 14, 2000.

Wanna know what's on the public's mind? The "Lycos 50" will show you the fads and trends among the internet public ranked by number of searches. It's a interesting and informative use of search engine information.

http://50.lycos.com/

-- (Watching@the.trends), June 19, 2000.