Over at the censored forum, some of the more extreme kooks that used to pontificate over here are all riled up about the following. How much you want to bet that "Sam" is the same person as Mr. CEO?

American Death Camps
by Samuel Foster
submitted by Nicky
>
>We live in strange times. Suffice it to say I am a captain (not my
>actual rank, but at least that) in the National Guard; but I can't tell
>you which state, as that information surely will be the quick road to my
>demise. I have faithfully served my country in Desert Storm and Panama,
>both events having nothing to do with the National Security safety of
>this Great Country of ours.
>
>My wife has the same disease I have, and the doctors are still telling
>me I have the flue. Does a flue last eight years? We'll get to that
>later. We both are under the age of forty, but we no longer look young.
>
>Nothing can change my mind that my superiors-so-called officers and
>gentlemen-have murdered us. One of my duties requires me to train
>through rotation with other units, the ongoing guard staff of various
>clandestine Prisons many Americans that over-sight committees do not
>know exist. These prisons, or "camps" as we call them, were built for no
>other purpose than for the common American taxpayer. I know. I helped
>build three of them.
>
>Somewhere along the way, I have lost my soul in the process. I know for
>a fact that this government of ours plans to turn America into a
>wasteland of proportions that stagger any imagination. It is the
>Pentagon and Wall Street's ambition to create no less than a slave state
>by the year 2001. They will do it too-with the media's help-because in
>many ways, they have already succeeded in destroying our civil liberties
>and making the middle-class an ancient idea.
>
>How can I say these things? From where do I speak? A few years ago, I
>was called to a meeting in Fort Mead to join the augmenting of a unit
>which would report directly to FEMA in the event of national disaster.
id we discuss earthquakes, tornadoes, or flooding? Not on your life.
>After obtaining several new written security clearances and after having
>signed no less than eleven documents-all giving away my life and liberty
>should I ever speak out-I was let in on the following plan.
>
>Before giving out the structure of this plan, I beg anyone who reads
>this document to share with as many people as possible what I consider
>our last, best chance to reverse the horrible course this country is
>going to take very soon. The outline is as I remember it, as everything
>was verbal-nothing was ever written down.
>
>Troop movements, orders, and materiel was all coded with words that
>meant something other than what they were. For example, if we needed 150
>new prison cells, we didn't call them prison cells. They became "Cfood
>units, CIV". Given a code sheet, we could then interpret and act upon
>any written order. Most were email in our net and were to be destroyed
>once the order was carried out. This was routine policy and is still in
>effect today.
>
>1. Establish a network of prisons to deal with the estimated twenty
>million Americans who will not go along with the New America. This new
>country will no longer resemble the USA we all grew up in. It will be a
>dictatorship with institutionalized and mandated slave labor.
>
>2. Schools will no longer teach actual history. The schools of the
>future will mainly be warehouses for the young. They will teach the
>party system: that family is dead, and that work is good. Discovering
>this point made me so violently ill I became incontinent.
>
>3. Voting will be suspended. Many of us already know that the American
>vote is a sham. Officers above the rank of Major are well aware of who
>gives the orders in this country. Not the White House, but the CIA. The
>White House and its changing occupant are merely the visible servant of
>something much darker and the Presidents sole purpose is to create laws
>which lower real income, create war states, and keep the military
>machine running with ever-expanding budgets. I know. I was there at many
>meetings where foreign policy was dictated by four-star generals.
>
>4. Gun owners will have their guns taken, by force if necessary, before
>many of the plans points are made operational.
>
>5. The enforcers of the plan will be NATO and UN forces working in
>cooperation with the US Military and headed by the product from the
>Intel groups and FEMA.
>
>6. Use the lists compiled by the FBI and NSA and round up all those men
>and women who have ever showed any inkling whatsoever in the
>constitution on civil rights. This especially includes gun-owners and
>religious persons.
>
>7. Using lists obtained from grocery stores and banks, individuals with
>income spent in stockpiling of goods will also be rounded up and their
>property absconded.
>
>8. The Teachings of Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam will be considered
>anti-American. Pastors, preachers, and holy men and women are to be
>rounded up for "re-education."
>
>9. The establishment of work colonies and the takeover of the media by
>the Pentagon.
>
>10. Free trade of stocks will be frozen and the assets of many
>individuals outright taken away.
>
>11. The creation of mass crematoriums in Arizona, Texas, and Washington.
>The dead will no longer be buried, but will be sent to a place where
>they will be "cleansed."
>
>12. The creation of a national police force with complete power. This
>point, as with many others, has already occurred and the force is now
>80% operational.
>
>Friends, there is little more than I can say, except to give you my
>promise that I will constantly provide as much facts as possible to lead
>you to the truth. You want camp locations? I'll get them out. You want
>dates and places, I'll get them too.
>
>God help us in our time of need.
>
>Sam



-- Savage (blah@blah.com), June 02, 2000

Answers

Soylent Green is people!!!!!!!!!!!!! people!!!!!!!!!

-- Thorn (dystopians@R.us), June 02, 2000.

ROTFLMAO!

Lists from grocery stores! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.com), June 02, 2000.

Gawd, not again. This same "report," in slightly altered form, made the rounds last year about this time. Wasn't there a big TB2K response then, as well? Or was that the doctored picture of the field full of white UN buses? You'd think some people would learn after a while.

-- Cash (cash@andcarry.com), June 02, 2000.

SAY "WHAT??"

Two words........B S

FS, now it is easy to find 'us', ever see the Ziggy cartoon where Ziggy is standing by a map which reads the following:

You are here (x indicates where) and....the goverment is WELL aware of it.

LOL...so true...but the above BS story is enough to make you want to laugh. After y2k and my own panic crap, I WILL NEVER again fall for anything over the net which induces panic...EVER.

BTW, anybody got any left over supplies just in case? ROFLMAO!!!!

----sumer

exiting stage right....snicker

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 02, 2000.

Checked out a random knuckle dragger comment from over there. These folks are cracked, and all of them seem to believe this nonsense

"No factories, no farms... reports indicate facilities to roll in entire railroad cars which have been equipped with LEG IRONS for the absolute control of prisoners. Further, these buildings have had furnaces installed that seem to need 6 inch gas feed lines.
I do NOT think thats to keep anybody WARM.

According to the article I have in front of me BEECH GROVE,INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA now has one of these facilities, and it WAS an AMTRAK DEPOT facility... it is now structured as a PRISON, and the WW2 VET who sent me the article says it looks like the gas chambers the NAZIS used.The article says that the biggest building is large enough to roll in FOUR boxcars at a time.

Do I doubt that they exist????? No chance.
I know one of the poor souls who has spent the last 4 years welding in the leg irons, and he is going insane
with guilt... he isn't supposed to know or understand what is coming, but he does. His honesty is of no question to me, and I have heard a SPECIFIC NUMBER
with regard to how many leg irons per car from other sources.

This facility in BEECH GROVE alone is 129 ACRES, and the articles writer is said to have PERSONALLY seen 130 of these camps across the country.

If so inclined, one could easily check this info...
The Indianapolis News ran a story on 27 January1995
that had the following headline:
AMTRAK LAYS OFF 212 at BEECH GROVE: 17 Lose Jobs at Maintenance Center Today...
However, in 1994, Congress ordered Amtrak to spend almost 6 MILLION to REPAIR the place, (also in the same article) which is now AIRTIGHT.

Do I doubt? NO My only question is this... how much more time do I have to buy guns and ammo? I will NOT go alone.

DEATH TO THE UN AND THE NWO."

-- youbetcha (laughin'@doomers.org), June 02, 2000.

Whoever wrote this should get a dictionary. Property "absconded"? That means that the government is going to hide it quickly??

-- liu (lookitup@dictionary.com), June 02, 2000.

Cash wrote, "Gawd, not again. This same "report," in slightly altered form, made the rounds last year about this time."

I remember the report, too, Cash, and I think that it also cirrculated the year before that, as well, because that was my first introduction to David Icke. To make a tedious story short, a woman I was dating sent me that report in email, and when I pooh-poohed it, she sent me some stuff about aliens from Icke that "proved" that the camps were real. I never had the patience to figure out what Grey Aliens had to do with American prisoner of war camps -- it just seemed easier to stop dating her -- but I'm sure someone over at EZily Bored has come to the same conclusion.

Why do these people think that the government has any interest in rounding *them* up? I, for one, wouldn't want to put people like Zog and Dennis Olsen in the same place. If nothing else, a fight might break out over the best ways to prepare Hamburger Helper and Spam burgers.

-- (kb8um8@yahoo.com), June 02, 2000.

Those people are smart enough, just barely, to realize they SHOULD be rounded-up. So they make the leap to assume someone WILL be rounding them up. Dive, dive!!

-- Willy (from@old.Philly), June 02, 2000.

what if this were true? Just for the sake of discussion, what if it were true?

What would you do, and what do you think everyone else would do?

If it were true, could it be done? Or would there be such a fighting refusal going on that others would be alerted to it in time?

The Nazi's did it. Could something like that happen again? Especially here in America?

Whatcha tink?

-- just supposin' (theory@the.forum), June 02, 2000.

I tinka of chicken little 'sky is falling'

I tinka of the boy who cried 'wolf'

I tinka all the $$$ spent on da y2k BS

I tinka its NUTZ to believe or even entertain the thought of such a thing occurring.

I tinka I done said to mucha.

(veg) ----- still at work, feeling like sysman, tick tock watch da clock.....

sumer

(looking around for an excuse to leave early :-)

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 02, 2000.

This is SO STUPID a post.

If the poster (Jesse) on EY II /EZ or the others had the slightest proof, they would show it. It was on Hyatt last year and assorted places. It was "de-bunked" on Hyatt's forum so just imagine how little truth there is to it.

Last year, a Survivalist de-bunked a facility purportedly in Indiana but like the Mold this is, it comes back whenever it finds a particularly weak/limp brain and starts up again.

As for: "Could it happen here?"

NEVER.

This Nations Stays Free........because PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DIE TO STAY FREE. Period. (and forget what the paranoic Doomers claim about "lost morale" etc.)

It would have to take place over mine and millions of others cold dead bodies. The logistics of over 270,000,000 million Americans with over 40 Million guns prevent such a scenario.

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), June 02, 2000.

Here is the 1998 Version (with some "camps" from "the list") and note the last paragraph.

It was one year old then.

FUNNY, but,,, TO THIS DAY...no one has seen one of this or put up the slightest bit of real hard core evidence:

THE SECRET CAMPS "LIST":

http://www.fi9.com/guncontrol/k_camps_list.html

INCLUDING :

GEORGIA

Camilla, Mitchell County - FEMA facility on mount Zion road aprox. 5.7 miles south of Camilla. From Camilla, take Hwy 19 south, go 5.4 miles from 37/19 Junction to Mount Zion Road, turn left (east) on Mount Zion Road. Not manned or staffed yet.

Ft. Benning - Rex 84 Program Emergency custodial facility east of Columbia, near Georgia/Alabama state line. Prisoners may be brought in via Lawson Army airfield.

Morgan, Calhoun County - FEMA facility. Take I-75 Exit 32 to 300 South to Albany; then Hwy 234 to Morgan; go through Morgan on Hwy 45 South. Facility is 1.5 miles on right (west) side of Hwy 45. Fully manned and staffed, but no prisoners yet.

Oglethorpe, Macon County - FEMA facility 5 miles from Montezuma, 3 miles from Oglethorpe, on west side of Hwy 49. No staff or prisoners yet.

Unadilla, Macon County - FEMA facility on East Railroad Street 1.5 miles from Unadilla on County Rd 230. Plunket Road leads into the facility. Manned and staffed, but no prisoners yet. TEXAS

Amarillo - FEMA detention facility.

12/9/99 Beaumont Port Arthur area - thousands of acres of federal camps already built on the order of detention camp sesign complete with the double row chain link fencing with the razor styled concertina wire on top of each row. Some but not all of these facilities are currently being used for low-risk prisoners who require a minimum of supervision. However, any of these facilities could be returned into an armed internment detection center within a 24-hr. period.

12/9/99 Ft. Bliss, El Paso - Been undergoing extensive renovation of buildings and from what we have been able to see, many of these buildings that are being renovated are being surrounded by razor wire.

Ft. Hood - newly constructed concentration camp. Surrounded by high barbed wire-topped fencing and guard towers.

Mexia - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.

Princeton - WWII POW camp on north side of Denton Hwy. Under renovation.

INTRO:

http://www.fi9.com/guncontrol/k_camps_intro.html

Date: 98-04-17 23:49:20 EDT

Dear Citizens:

Here is a post listing the 300+ camps euphemistically referred to as "Relocation Centers" which are in reality, Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps. In addition, to this listing I have several posts describing which people will be apprehended and transferred to them, when it will happen, what the camps will be used for, and why Clinton has created them and his Executive Order creating them. If you are interested in this other information then please contact me.

USCMike1 Some Citizens and Patriots are concerned because they are either unable to locate any of Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps, affectionately termed "Relocation Centers" by the Feds, or they say they have found the sites but that they are empty, not occupied, not being used, or abandoned buildings. At the present time the United States is a free nation guided by the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Of course the Feds won't paint big signs and advertise on billboards: "Welcome to CCCC #301" (Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camp). But, what is happening is that the sites are being registered with FEMA as potential or actual facilities to house U.S. Citizens to be used as forced "slave" labor (prison inmate) work camps to produce goods for the elite and ruling classes. That was one of the major topics on Clinton's agenda when he visited China recently as he wanted to learn how the Chinese produce most of their mass produced products so cheaply . . . with prison labor, of course.

Clinton copied China's system to be used here in the USA. OBTW, did you know that as of 4 years ago, the United States had more than one million U.S. Citizens incarcerated in prisons . . . more than any totalitarian, dictatorial, despotic, communist country in the entire world? And this is as FREE and "democratic" nation? (It's more like demonic if you ask me). Clinton wants to put them and new inductees to work in his CCCCs. Alaska has one prison that will hold over 500,000 inmates. It is big and escapees (if they could escape) have no where to run.

Some of these existing camps are being currently used to train battalions of hostile, foreign, heavily armed troops under United Nations control, some of which are Russian, German, Chinese, and others, which will be utilized to round up U.S. Citizens when the time comes. That time will begin shortly after the Y2K computer bug CRASH and enmass immediately after when chaos strikes and when the United Nations enacts and executes its new 950+ page REFORMED charter. This is when the UN will decree that there can no longer be free and sovereign nations and all nations must bow down before the UN.

That is why they are disarming citizens, reducing our U.S. military fighting forces, and closing most of our military bases. If there are no soldiers and no bases, we can't fight back.

There is one brand new camp near Las Vegas that is being used to train local police departments nationwide in urban warfare. Why do police need to be trained to conduct war against civilians? What are they planning for us?

On several websites, there are lists of over 300+ such camps and some show recent stages of construction and remodeling in scanned photos revealing 20+ foot high guard towers (where machine guns will be mounted), Chain link fences with razor wire strung out along the top, and buildings with huge gas pipes and conduits leading into windowless holding tank and prisoner cell buildings. That is for discussion of the Red and Blue lists, priority levels of U.S. Citizens who will be temporarily housed in the CCCCs for a short time until they are eliminated. The Feds even have a specially constructed train with closable steel window Lonvers (air tight shutters). This train is designed to house dissident civilians enroute to huge air tight sealed structures for "fumigating." They won't even bother offloading the prisoners like Hitler did.

Remind me to look through my bank of 6,000 archived emails to locate some details on the above and I will re-post some of them for you. This is NOT new information. It has all been planned out for several years. I sent this information out, evidently, to deaf ears last year. -USCMike1YXol.com

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), June 02, 2000.

cpr,

Methinks I saw the figure of 250 million firearms in the US. Most gun owners own more than one.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), June 02, 2000.

There is some thought within my orginization that when the last email virus went around some people were delibertly opening them, even after they knew not too.

I can't help wonder if posts like the above are posted in the same vein. The poster knows it's not true but wants to cause people to worry. It probably doesn't cross the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" line since only idiots would buy it. But you do have to wonder about the mentality and morality of the poster. Does he (most probably a he) lie to his friends and neighborhs the same easy way the lies show up in his writtings?

It does make you think, or should.

-- The Engineer (spcengineer@yahoo.com), June 02, 2000.

''man proposes---GOD disposes'' if you really want to know'what,s coming=READ YOUR BIBLE. the 1 who holds the future--dictates the future. is man=omnipotent,soveriegn'almighty'creator'LORD GOD=ALPHA & OMEGA. ''HE SAID=who by worrying can add anything to his life.

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), June 02, 2000.

Ya, know, I agree with CPR on this one:

As for: "Could it happen here?" NEVER. This Nations Stays Free........because PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DIE TO STAY FREE. Period. (and forget what the paranoic Doomers claim about "lost morale" etc.)

Now, I wouldn't go quite as far as CPR -- who would have ever thought that Germany would or could have done what they did in WWII. But, one of the reasons that I think that this is BS, Chemtrails are BS, and much similar stuff on the Internet is BS is that there is no "guvmnt" There are only people who work for various government agencies, at various levels -- local, federal, state. I know some of them, and I don't even like politics. My State Senator is a neighbor of mine.

And, I believe that most of them have a conscience and a belief in what this country stands for. I do not believe that any government "death camp" or "Chemtrail" program could ever be kept secret. There are too many people in this country with principals, who would object and tell all they knew. I don't know how many of them are willing to "die to stay free," but a lot are. A lot, including me, would not ever, under any circumstances, put up with any of this conspiracy BS without telling or talking if we acutally knew that something like this was going on.

-- E.H. Porter (Just Wondering@About.it), June 02, 2000.

Isn't sleazy board becoming an urban legend board? LOL!

-- (huh@dot.com), June 02, 2000.

ubject: who needs proof on the net? Posted By: zog (Local user) Posted At: 5/25/00 8:44:46 pm From IP: That is the main point. demanding internet "proof" is one thing, waiting to see it is a big 50/50 gamble. As I'm sure you are aware, with your relatives in SA, such things as sports stadiums make great temporary "camps". Also, factories, slaughterhouses, schools, warehouses, any dot mil base, police station, existing prisons (of which we have a HUGE number of brand spanking new ones all over the country), and any place where a truck can roll out some razor wire in a big loop. It's happened all over the world, down through history, the "place" per se is no big deal. What needs to be looked at is the "buildup" which is overwhelmingly happening right now. All the police forces in this country are becoming federalized, this is just hard fact. It's incremental, but there. The technology boom is massive, the tools for surveillance are almost beyond belief. The psyops in the media is too well known, can't be debated any longer, at least for anyone rational enough to look.

These and others are much better clues tham any "camps". Although I think there are some now for that express purpose. I'm not waiting for real detailed photos and guided tours, though, the reality of the steps already put into place are more than enough, I don't need to SEE the camps, I KNOW the plans are there.

Dare to Think-Dare to Speak-Dare to Act!

-- the resident wacko (wacko@ezboard.com), June 02, 2000.

Oooooh, Mr Wacko, what a big gun you have. Ooooooh, won't you please whack me?

-- (darlene@lubricious.lips), June 03, 2000.

A little something from last year's TB 2000.

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000eyW

A better look at the Beech Grove, IN 'internment camp'

-- In case you weren't (there@last.year), June 03, 2000.